"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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33 Strategies of War is also very very good (although I am not done with it yet)

its more about direct confrontations/conquests, which is actually great if you apply it to business, DJ strategy, personal ****, etc. In any case, its another classic by the author, I love this guy. He has a truly rare abilty to synthesize knowledge into something cohesive and useful.

Anyway, 33 is a good prequel to 48, you use 33 to conquer and build, and 48 to rule and keep. Good sh!t.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Their is actually a 49 law of power that is not released for the reasons of scarcity. Every book has not mentioned and is only released in certain books. That secret final law of power is... Chuck Norris

I'm sorry... I really could not resist!
 

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The books are crap in my opinion. Whole lot about putting Power on it's pedastal in place of really being about people. Pretty shallow lifestyle IMO.

On top of that, if manipulating people is your thing, good luck on finishing a book(s) that rival the page count of a phonebook directory.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Re:

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any more examples?

have you read the books?

The Art of Seduction should be obvious but relating the 48 laws towards your relationship and example is using absense. Everyone knows that if you stick around too much people get tired, annoyed and disenchanted with you. They may not say it but they do. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Another one is disdain the things you cannot have, ignoring them is the best revenge....this can be applied to people with oneitis who constantly drool over an exlover or whatever that pays them no mind.


And for the other poster - its not just about manipulating people but reading their intentions and learning to deal with the people and situations you deal with in everyday society. This isnt heaven. Ive worked at places where people were constantly trying to undermine others while smiling in their face.
 

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Seldomseen you are right....

I've read 48 but not AOS

I was hesitant on AOS because I've heard people say its more of a history lesson and a lot of AFC stuff in there as opposed to a good guide of picking up women.
 

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Seldomseen you are right....

I've read 48 but not AOS

I was hesitant on AOS because I've heard people say its more of a history lesson and a lot of AFC stuff in there as opposed to a good guide of picking up women.

thats because those guys misunderstand what seduction is all about. AOS is gold! It was the first book I read and I seduced alot of women after applying it because there are so many strategies to apply and you can pick and choose which ones are congruent with your personality. AOS does not make you AFC. In fact there a section about inflicting pain and how it bonds a human to you more than being nice and giving gifts. "you have more to fear by boring your target than by angering them" Greene says. Read the book, absorb it...learn from it. Its rich with ideas.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Thanks I think I will.

How is the 33 startegies of war, Greene's new book?
Don't know, will buy sooner or later, but heres linky for review:
http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Search/QuickSearchProc/1,,Author_1000038310,00.html

I have both Greenes Art of Seduction and 48 Laws, both great reads. I find comfort in these books as I clumsily (at times) clod my way thru the DJ lifestyle, bangin ho's and the not-so-educated. These books are an intellectual look at life in its darkest form. I remember receiving 48 Laws for Christmas from my then GF's mother. Her comment was along the lines of "You can end up in hell for applying some of these things" she meant it jokingly.

One question : What does Greene mean when he writes the "Reversal" for each chapter?
 
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The reversal just means he is talking about what are the negative/opposite effects the strategy can have.

I have read some AOS so far, the Rake, and the Ideal Lover. THe thing is that it seems like all these figures give a female a lot of attention.... well maybe not the rake but even he does when he is with the women. Is this too AFC?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?
 

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Jayer said:
I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?
I have just started reading the 48 laws of power, got about up to the 6th law so far and its totally money. Can really relate the laws, to stuff on here and the rest of life. I'll write more when i finish it
 

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Jayer said:
I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?

Which laws are these so i can have a quick read?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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