"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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33 Strategies of War is also very very good (although I am not done with it yet)

its more about direct confrontations/conquests, which is actually great if you apply it to business, DJ strategy, personal ****, etc. In any case, its another classic by the author, I love this guy. He has a truly rare abilty to synthesize knowledge into something cohesive and useful.

Anyway, 33 is a good prequel to 48, you use 33 to conquer and build, and 48 to rule and keep. Good sh!t.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Their is actually a 49 law of power that is not released for the reasons of scarcity. Every book has not mentioned and is only released in certain books. That secret final law of power is... Chuck Norris

I'm sorry... I really could not resist!
 

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The books are crap in my opinion. Whole lot about putting Power on it's pedastal in place of really being about people. Pretty shallow lifestyle IMO.

On top of that, if manipulating people is your thing, good luck on finishing a book(s) that rival the page count of a phonebook directory.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Re:

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any more examples?

have you read the books?

The Art of Seduction should be obvious but relating the 48 laws towards your relationship and example is using absense. Everyone knows that if you stick around too much people get tired, annoyed and disenchanted with you. They may not say it but they do. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Another one is disdain the things you cannot have, ignoring them is the best revenge....this can be applied to people with oneitis who constantly drool over an exlover or whatever that pays them no mind.


And for the other poster - its not just about manipulating people but reading their intentions and learning to deal with the people and situations you deal with in everyday society. This isnt heaven. Ive worked at places where people were constantly trying to undermine others while smiling in their face.
 

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Seldomseen you are right....

I've read 48 but not AOS

I was hesitant on AOS because I've heard people say its more of a history lesson and a lot of AFC stuff in there as opposed to a good guide of picking up women.
 

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Seldomseen you are right....

I've read 48 but not AOS

I was hesitant on AOS because I've heard people say its more of a history lesson and a lot of AFC stuff in there as opposed to a good guide of picking up women.

thats because those guys misunderstand what seduction is all about. AOS is gold! It was the first book I read and I seduced alot of women after applying it because there are so many strategies to apply and you can pick and choose which ones are congruent with your personality. AOS does not make you AFC. In fact there a section about inflicting pain and how it bonds a human to you more than being nice and giving gifts. "you have more to fear by boring your target than by angering them" Greene says. Read the book, absorb it...learn from it. Its rich with ideas.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Thanks I think I will.

How is the 33 startegies of war, Greene's new book?
Don't know, will buy sooner or later, but heres linky for review:
http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Search/QuickSearchProc/1,,Author_1000038310,00.html

I have both Greenes Art of Seduction and 48 Laws, both great reads. I find comfort in these books as I clumsily (at times) clod my way thru the DJ lifestyle, bangin ho's and the not-so-educated. These books are an intellectual look at life in its darkest form. I remember receiving 48 Laws for Christmas from my then GF's mother. Her comment was along the lines of "You can end up in hell for applying some of these things" she meant it jokingly.

One question : What does Greene mean when he writes the "Reversal" for each chapter?
 
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The reversal just means he is talking about what are the negative/opposite effects the strategy can have.

I have read some AOS so far, the Rake, and the Ideal Lover. THe thing is that it seems like all these figures give a female a lot of attention.... well maybe not the rake but even he does when he is with the women. Is this too AFC?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?
 

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Jayer said:
I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?
I have just started reading the 48 laws of power, got about up to the 6th law so far and its totally money. Can really relate the laws, to stuff on here and the rest of life. I'll write more when i finish it
 

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Jayer said:
I just got done on reading the section on using surprise.

It seems a little contradictory though.

On one hand he is saying that showing up where a girl is unexpectidly will cloud her judgement as to it being a planned action. But on the other hand he says that being spontaneous is not a desireable trait and that women appreciate planned actions for the effort behind them.

Can someone who has read this book please explain this?

Which laws are these so i can have a quick read?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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