"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
40-something haridan laments leaving her fiancé at age 19 to chase c0ck carousel
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
move on. Nothing new. Looked down on him for losing his job due to the housing crash, etc. She ends up getting with some bad boy singer dude who cheats on her repeatedly over the course of 3 and a half years to which eventually he leaves her permanently to be with another chick he knocked up lol. Standard stuff really. I don’t feel an ounce of pity and if anything wish worse for her. She thought she was a Jenny who could just string her Forest Gump along forever, and you can tell she was just arrogant as hell in reality just because she thought she could do better.
One thing the guy said that really stuck out to me (from 5:30 - 6:20), was that women can actually stay attractive after a pregnancy if they have kids early on. We all know that women typically look horrendous after giving birth, and that they never really recover from it. This is common knowledge. But the reason why they almost never recover “is because they’re now 34, not 24”. The reason why they cannot get their bodies to look like what it used to is because it’s simply harder to lose the extra weight at 34 than it is at 24. Couple that with the fact that women hit the wall a lot earlier than men, and it totally makes total sense. I’d honestly never heard of that before or even thought about it really.
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She looks to me like a drug addict that quit his job to live as a gipsy only to repent once he is too old to get free dope at parties.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Plenty do it. Either they don't know or don't understand.Who wants to marry a hoe?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Which only makes matters worse, since chicks now think they can get away with being a hoe.
Is this a vicious cycle, or what?
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Until men stop supporting it, it will keep getting worse.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
What is a "ho" in your definition?
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
My definition is unbiased.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Describe the characteristics of a "ho".
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
"This is the way of an adulteress: she eats and wipes her mouth and says, “I have done no wrong.”"
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
So a liar, deciever, user, exploiter, manipulator. She seeks to gain unearned favor with her charms and acts. Steal, kill, destroy.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
the devil's work
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Cause issues in marriage, pass gossip, strife, drama.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
She wants to "come up" on you man. She will "come up" on women too.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
It's hilarious, the guys that buy into it.
There's grenade girl. The chick who uses massive drama and contention to try and grab some mindshare with the big bosses. If she's pretty and smart enough it can work. A lot of these types are just light weights and sh1t talkers.
There's the stabbing koala. She s your new bestie while she weasels out info from you and tries to cut you out from the group.
There's bigger d1ck b1tch. She's like a tank attack gets the job done but the collateral damage is massive. Basically the female version of the old double hard charger. Roughrides over people and puts them down publicly. But because she's got a vag HR never seem to notice.
There's brown nose bich. To be fair courtiers come in both genders. she trades on borrowed power and always insinuates that she is better connected and in the know than you. the big bosses use these people to stroke their egos but at the end of the day they are a dime a dozen and totally expendable.
All of them to me have the main characteristic of a hoe. No respect for themselves or anyone else.
More seriously you've been here for a long time buddy like me. How is the wife hunting going?
P.m. me if you don't want to let it all hang out here.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Lolz....there are no potential wives to be hunted here. My screen name is more irony, these days.Quite the opposite.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Marriage?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.