"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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25 year old and hatin the loveshack

the_wanderer

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Hi guys, long time lurker, first time poster-25 year old post grad student. After being burned on several occasion's by women, I decided to search for dating tips and voila I found Neil Strauss and other PUA material (this site included). Being an introvert is hard but staying as one and being spineless is even worse. So I decided to change.


What I do hate is the forum known as the loveshack. It's completely run by women who give dating advice to men, Ive tried using some from there and well it never worked. Reverse actually. I learned that women never want or act what they say. I got banned because I was bordering on insulting when I was stating relevant views.

At present I am seeing 3 different women and while I do like the player aspect of it, I may choose between the 3 eventually.

Glad to be here.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DJCorleone

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haha loveshack, that forum looks like a pile of crap, and i've been on there about 5 minutes.

read the dj bible bro, did me a world of good...
 

WaterTiger

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Welcome home Wanderer!

The "DJ Bible" is the best threads from this site all bundled up in an e-book of sorts. The link is at the bottom left side of the screen.


Curious, what major is your grad work in?
 

Badmannaz

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YEA CHICKS ONLY TALK CONCERING THE MOMENT...i learned when a chick says

YOU WILL NEVER SLEEP WITH ME YOUR NOT ATTRACTICTIVE....WHAT SHE REALLY MEANS IS...(RIGHT NOW) I WOULD NEVER SLEEP WITH YOU...AND (RIGHT NOW) YOUR NOT ATTRACTIVE...

YOU could say i've had luck with girls who promised they would never do it with me and did lol hahahha
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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