"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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220lbs a year ago.. 175lbs now, BUT....

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Quagmire911

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What approach did you take too lose the weight? Diet? Exercise? Be specific.
 

TheLadiesMan

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Starts in the kitchen big boy. :) ..but yeah, to all the above.

Again, my question is, should I start running?

Recently, I've been called "scrawny".. which I thought I'd never here. lol! ...flabby is another, but can you be scrawny AND flabby at the same time? hmmm? Haters. :D

I'm pretty strong, by some standards. I'd like to do 20 pullups, 100 pushups, and 100 situps in one set, by end of the year. Right now, 10 pullups, 60 to 70 pushups, and 30 situps. :(
 

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TheLadiesMan said:
...I've got some extra flab from that 220 era. Should I start running? Would like to reduce the amount of flab on me.. see picture. Also I'm addicted to italian ice. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/KottonmouthKingHG/011708.jpg
hieght ,age, activity level?

tells us if you were actually overweight or didn't need to lose weight.

i am in a very simliar situation. i m 5 8 , 27 , lightly active.. I used to be 220 2 months ago, i m 210 now, MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO do what you did and get to 175
 

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No, I meant what exactly was your approach?

Six meals a day, carb cutoff, morning cardio 5 times a week coupled with weights three times a week?

Eating 1000 calories a day?

Low carb, anabolic diet...

What cardio did you do, how often, how much...?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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:up: good job losing the weight. But HOW did you lose it? Starving yourself????

Yes - running, lifting weights, and a great diet will suit your needs. Sorry, your going to have to cut your consumption of Italian ice to a couple times a week lol

What are your goals? To lose weight only? Gain muscle? Its hard to have a six pack with your ab muscles so small. What do you want to look like so we can help you achieve it.
 

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TheLadiesMan said:
but can you be scrawny AND flabby at the same time?
Yes if you weigh little, little muscle, some fat still there. This means 'skinny-fat'.

MM
 

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I'm trying to get seriously cut, ripped, and busting out in muscles, but not on a freakish level. I want to be able to bounce a woman off my body for an hour, without her feet touching the ground. :D ..right now, I got the hr long thing down hehe.. but as far as keeping her in the air that long, not yet... 20mins max, and I'm putting her on her knees.

I'll let you all in on my diet, and workout plan later tonight, it'll take too long to type out, and I've got to get ready for work soon. If I can find the info I need to get seriously cut first...

..and starving yourself is a no no. That's just workout common knowledge. I didn't eat 6 times a day either. I was lucky to have 3 meals a day with my busy schedule, but at the very least I had 3. I probably should of had 5.
 

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I'm trying to get seriously cut, ripped, and busting out in muscles, but not on a freakish level.
At least 3 years of hard training, great diet, full dedication and great genetics then? People on here have very unrealistic expectations you know. They start a routine and a diet and expect to look amazing within 6 months. They then go off the training and diet because they're too busy drinking and going out and eating takeaways. Are you prepared to stop going out?

MM
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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175 and you want to cut? You'll just get weaker doing that right now....and i don't think thats what you want. You think your a shrimp now...wait till you cut to get ..."ripped", you don't have much muscle on you at all. It will just be a confidence killer and when you reach that level of cutness you'll look so tiny you will be sorry you did that. And your girl will probably crush you when she's on top.

I highly recommend bulking.
 

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Mad Manic said:
They start a routine and a diet and expect to look amazing within 6 months.
MM
Depends on the dude...8-10 months this guy would look good.
 

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I've been doing it for 12 months.. so there's a bit of dedication there. :) I mean 220 to 175? Not bad at all, really. I quit smoking, eating right, etc. Trust and believe me when I say to you, this didn't happen over nite. ;)

Bulk up? ...really? I spent all this time trying to lose this weight...

5'11 175lbs.. 38 years old.
 

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its all amatter of what size you want to be. by your description, what i am suggesting will be better, than when your big enough, you cut off like 15 20 lbs in like 2-3 months and look amazing.
 

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I-tallionStallion said:
its all amatter of what size you want to be. by your description, what i am suggesting will be better, than when your big enough, you cut off like 15 20 lbs in like 2-3 months and look amazing.
Suggestion for bulking, please.

Off to work, will read and reply when I get home. Thanks all.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Perfect, thanks I-talian dude.

I was going to list the "1 Year Oatmeal Diet" but that looked much better, and tastier. :D
 

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TheLadiesMan said:
I was going to list the "1 Year Oatmeal Diet" but that looked much better, and tastier.
i know several people who have done it... all have rebounded 100+%, some more than once.
 

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Congrats on your transformation! From the pictures, I'd say you're 12 weeks away from being in great shape with a six pack and all. You just need to learn a few things and give 100% committment, not 85.

Dude you need to educate yourself on diet and excercise and there's no place better to do it than bodybuilding dot com. There you will find all your answers to your questions and also get the supplements you need to be in top shape. It has helped me a great deal and I'm now about a month out from single digit bf%.
 

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Congrats on your transformation! From the pictures, I'd say you're 12 weeks away from being in great shape with a six pack and all. You just need to learn a few things and give 100% committment, not 85.
Dude you need to educate yourself on diet and excercise and there's no place better to do it than bodybuilding dot com. There you will find all your answers to your questions and also get the supplements you need to be in top shape. It has helped me a great deal and I'm now about a month out from single digit bf%.[/
You are out of your mind...the only way he's 12 weeks away is if he strips 20 lbs...and thats only a MAYBE...but then he'd weigh a measily and unattractive 155. It takes a lot more dedication than 12 weeks Mr.WISEASS

Are you a freakin advertisement? There's a lot of conflicting information on that site from what i've seen. And there's plenty of amazing advice here.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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