"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Every girl I've talked to so far with the help of this site has been a solid 9-10. I would post pictures, but I don't want to ruin their anonymity. Regardless, here is what is going on. I can get their number instantly, but over text, I fail miserably. I just don't know. I've tried the direct approach 2-3 times and if has failed me 2-3 times. But picking up the number wasn't an issue for me. Recently talked to this girl who's a 15/10, got her number Wednesday, and was direct with her and she flaked on me. I showed all my friends, and their amazed how I can get someone's number who is so attractive. Now, I feel like **** because I don't have any more options, and I kind of blew my opportunity with this chick. Any advice guys?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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What kind of responses do you get from them? What do you mean you fail miserably?
 

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Only advice you need: stop taking numbers from chicks who are attractive to other people, start taking numbers of chicks who are attractive to you.
 

doctor1996

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Listen. I find them attractive. I don't go off the basis of my friends. And in fact this girl started talking to me. And it is known fact she is a babe. Regardless, when I mean I fail miserably l, after 3-4 texts I asked them to get coffee. I usually get a I have to check my schedule, or they stop responding.
 

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Could you show us an example of what you texted this last girl? Screenshots?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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lizardking82

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I think that is way too generic of a message. Just my 2 cents. I would spend 10-15 mins back and forth and then in the end you make the invitation. Heck, if you wanted to, you could have a short conversation there and ease into it.

That is the way pick up artists chase girls. Don't chase them like that, they already updated with that ****.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Might be contrary to some advice, but seems like it's too direct imo. I'd break it up into two parts at least. Ask if she wants to grab a coffee (or you can add today, or tomorrow) - then establish a time and day that is good for both of you. Suggest the day/time, but remain flexible - "How does 2:30 at starbucks sound?".

What lizardking82 has said is good as well. Like when she said 'Great n yours' - You can bring up something in your studies you're doing. Studying for midterm or a paper or something similar. Doesn't have to be super exciting - but in the above case, she's learning more about what you're focused on and what you are pursuing (showing ambition and determination - vs "Yeah I was playing CoD, scored 15-1 KD!" etc.). She mentions something, you ask her about whatever you learned from her when you talked with her last... etc.
 

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No need to feel embarrassed, dude. You should feel lucky you got a community of guys here tellin' you how to grow ;)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It's not a matter of confidence, you were just too generic, that's all. No big deal, there's a ton of beautiful women around the corner. Do what you've done up to now to get the numbers and then become more human in the conversation part.
 

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Don't feel that way man. Give it 3 or 4 days, before texting again. Build some rapport and then ASK if she would like to go out, then be specific with time and place if she says yes. I usually take a direct approach myself, when "asking", but she probably feels a little boxed in, when you hit her with your last text. She was thrown out of her comfort zone most likely.
 

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Lol just chill. It may suck ass, but it's fine. It's great you're doing the mistakes now, you're getting outside your comfort zone. Your future self will relish in the experience and lessons you're getting now.

Even if **** totally hits the fan, feel a bit of pride in yourself.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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