10 SJW Myths That Will Not Die

[EyeBRollin]

She grabbed a guy, taunted him, and harassed him. Simply because he was a white person wearing dreadlocks... That is not racism? I do not understand your definition of racism...

We were talking about institutionalized racism, no?

 

[BlueAlpha1]

We were talking about institutionalized racism, no?

No. There is no such thing as institutional racism. There is only racism - and a great deal coming from the black community.

But since you want to talk about "institutions", this happened at a college. Was she arrested? Expelled from the school? No? Sounds like institutional racism against this white man.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No. There is no such thing as institutional racism.

False. You can't speak such a claim into existence.

There is only racism - and a great deal coming from the black community.

Individual racism affects all races. You can never change the bigotry in people's minds.

But since you want to talk about "institutions", this happened at a college. Was she arrested? Expelled from the school? No? Sounds like institutional racism against this white man.

No it doesn't. How is the white person prevented from getting a job? Getting a loan? Getting convicted of something they did not commit? Attacked by police? How?

Sounds like you don't understand institutional racism at all.

 

[Asmodeus]

Institutionalized? I say that it is a load of bullcrap... There are racists and then there are people who are not racists. There are people who are of all ethnicities who have prejudices. Most of my family is racist to Bosnians... I am the only one who does not subscribe to it all because I see it as a silly and self defeating thing that ultimately creates more problems than it solves.
Institutions are not racist, people are racist and people associated with institutions may be racist but that is a different thing entirely.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Institutions are not racist, people are racist and people associated with institutions may be racist but that is a different thing entirely.

Glad you said this. Not it's not different. The people associated with institutions in place in America are mostly white, heterosexual, Christian men. The aspect of institutionalized racism you just described is power. There is no institutionalized racism against white men, because that would require a majority of the power to be in the hands of non-white men and women.

 

[Tenacity]

Why do you think that is?

I don't know why it is that black people label someone as a Uncle Tom or Coon just because they either:

- Don't share liberal or socialist viewpoints
- Don't vote Democrat
- Don't like thug/rap music
- Speak proper
- Have an education

I don't know, can you tell me? It seems to me that the traitor to the black race would be the thugs, the ones who:

- Are killing black people left and right
- Selling drugs to their own people
- Knocking up black women with kids and not fathering nor providing for them
- Getting up in the media acting a damn fool, making all black people look bad

Correct, that is the definition regarding specific situations like the black criminal vs. white criminal.

Great, now that we have defined institutionalized racism (which is to receive better treatment based on your white skin color and to receive bad treatment based on your black skin color), here's my question.

If we are living in a country that practices institutionalized racism, how can you have Black America with $1.1 trillion in spending power? How can black women be the most enrolled in colleges across the country? How can we have such a strong black middle class? How can we have so many black CEOs, black millionaires, etc.? If Black America were a country, it would be between number 13 - 15 on the list of the most powerful, richest, and wealthiest nations on the planet.

How does this happen in an environment where the system is setup to where, a white skin person will always get better treatment, first pick at jobs, the best jobs, the best credit, the best opportunities....over a black skin person?

Unless the successful black people are ONLY selling products/services and doing business with other black people (which is not the case because studies show that a dollar only stays black for around 6 HOURS), if we are living in institutionalized racism, how does this level of success/performance occur?

Can you explain this? Because the REASON I'm not agreeing with you is based on this level of Black America performance. Now, are blacks lagging in particular areas, of course they are. But with $1.1 trillion (at least, might be around $1.8 trillion today) in spending power, this is showing myself and the world that black people CANNOT be getting banned from opportunities like you claim they are?

It's option A for some, but more of option B.

So you believe it's MORE of a situation of black people being denied opportunities, first pick at jobs, the best jobs, the best credit, the best opportunities, etc. Again, answer my question above, how does this HIGH level of Black America performance happen if this situation is true because black people are NOT just doing business with other black people? Again, they can't just be doing business with other black people because the studies show that a dollar stays black for about 6 hours.

It's racist in the sense that it applies disproportionately to black men, yes.

Having a big dyck is promoted to apply disproportionately to black men as well, is that racist?

 

[Asmodeus]

Well damnit... I aint getting nothing tonight, the girl got pissed at me for something, I forget, and I said something to the effect of "how about I give you a dildo so you can go and fvck yourself"... So no bingo on the date... And now I am bored... So I guess that means I am going to waste time trying to show EyesBRollin the truth even if in futility.

So EyesBRollin... There are institutions of many kinds, and the white Christian heterosexual man is actually becoming more of a minority in the institutions of today. My manager is Indian, good guy even handed and knows the business well. And you have institutions that are not white too. If we see all this new growth in women owned business and in businesses owned by people of different ethnicities does that not show that racism is less of an issue than what you perceive it as?

 

[EyeBRollin]

1. No loss occurred when they subcontracted to the post office. Therefore no loss was socialized.

They needed to subcontract to their public-sector competitor to not realize a loss.

2. Hiring quotas are insitutionalized racism against whites.

Absolutely not.

And since you said all of those items would solve this alleged issue, then you are saying blacks have no responsibility to solve it, because that was not in your list.

Nope, never said that either. Keep fabricating arguments though.

Lastly, racism is racism....it doesn't have to be "institutional". That is just your attempt to only count a specific target of it (which you would need to prove AND we already know that quotas are racist against whites.).

It does have to be institutionalized. Overt racism is illegal and highly scrutinized. Racism in 2016 is mostly institutionalized and subtle.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I don't know why it is that black people label someone as a Uncle Tom or Coon just because they either:

- Don't share liberal or socialist viewpoints

Blacks aren't liberal nor are they socialist. Blacks are actually more socially conservative than whites, and are only more favorable of welfare.

- Don't vote Democrat

You can vote for the party that is openly racist, if you'd like. Shouldn't surprise you when blacks call you Uncle Tom though.

- Don't like thug/rap music
- Speak proper
- Have an education

Not true at all. I fall into all of these, and no one ever calls me an Uncle Tom.

I don't know, can you tell me? It seems to me that the traitor to the black race would be the thugs, the ones who:

- Are killing black people left and right
- Selling drugs to their own people
- Knocking up black women with kids and not fathering nor providing for them
- Getting up in the media acting a damn fool, making all black people look bad

Why do thugs bother you so much? Did they steal all your women? Thugs are a non-factor dude. Get with it.

Great, now that we have defined institutionalized racism (which is to receive better treatment based on your white skin color and to receive bad treatment based on your black skin color), here's my question.

If we are living in a country that practices institutionalized racism, how can you have Black America with $1.1 trillion in spending power?

It's proportionately less than whites. We went over this.

How can black women be the most enrolled in colleges across the country?

Black women have their share of institutionalized issues, but they aren't in jail or dead at the rate of black men.

How can we have such a strong black middle class? How can we have so many black CEOs, black millionaires, etc.?

We don't. Underrepresented in all the mentioned categories.

If Black America were a country, it would be between number 13 - 15 on the list of the most powerful, richest, and wealthiest nations on the planet.

....and?

How does this happen in an environment where the system is setup to where, a white skin person will always get better treatment, first pick at jobs, the best jobs, the best credit, the best opportunities....over a black skin person?

It happens in spite of it.

Unless the successful black people are ONLY selling products/services and doing business with other black people (which is not the case because studies show that a dollar only stays black for around 6 HOURS), if we are living in institutionalized racism, how does this level of success/performance occur?

Can you explain this? Because the REASON I'm not agreeing with you is based on this level of Black America performance. Now, are blacks lagging in particular areas, of course they are. But with $1.1 trillion (at least, might be around $1.8 trillion today) in spending power, this is showing myself and the world that black people CANNOT be getting banned from opportunities like you claim they are?

Banned? Where the **** did I ever say this?

So you believe it's MORE of a situation of black people being denied opportunities, first pick at jobs, the best jobs, the best credit, the best opportunities, etc. Again, answer my question above, how does this HIGH level of Black America performance happen if this situation is true because black people are NOT just doing business with other black people? Again, they can't just be doing business with other black people because the studies show that a dollar stays black for about 6 hours.

It's not high at all compared to other races in America. It's actually the worst... (Income might be higher than Hispanics, due to more of them being immigrants).

Having a big dyck is promoted to apply disproportionately to black men as well, is that racist?

Huh?

 

[Tenacity]

Eye B Rollin,

I'm done. Damn it I'm done. I tried to have an honest conversation with you but you aren't having an honest conversation.

There's no way in hell if we are living in a country, that gives the best opportunities, jobs, credit, etc., to WHITE PEOPLE, that Black America could be so successful. Your theory does not match up with the performance numbers and if you were being honest, you would admit that.

But you aren't willing to have an honest conversation, so I'm wasting my time here.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to be honest on either side. We can't get anywhere until we have an HONEST conversation.

Also for you to say THUGS are a non-factor, yeah, go tell that to the people in Chicago. So far in 2016:

- 218 have been shot and killed
- 1,165 have been shot and wounded
- 244 homicides

But thug culture is a non-factor? I'm done......I can't have a conversation with people who do not wish to be honest.

 

[Tictac]

Eye B Rollin,

I'm done. Damn it I'm done. I tried to have an honest conversation with you but you aren't having an honest conversation.

There's no way in hell if we are living in a country, that gives the best opportunities, jobs, credit, etc., to WHITE PEOPLE, that Black America could be so successful. Your theory does not match up with the performance numbers and if you were being honest, you would admit that.

But you aren't willing to have an honest conversation, so I'm wasting my time here.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to be honest on either side. We can't get anywhere until we have an HONEST conversation.

Also for you to say THUGS are a non-factor, yeah, go tell that to the people in Chicago. So far in 2016:

- 218 have been shot and killed
- 1,165 have been shot and wounded
- 244 homicides

But thug culture is a non-factor? I'm done......I can't have a conversation with people who do not wish to be honest.

He's a 9/11 Truther. All the rest is the same.

You are his oxygen. Put him on 'ignore'.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

False. You can't speak such a claim into existence.

Sorry, but you're making the claim of institutional racism. I am saying there is no such thing. The onus is on you to substantiate why you believe something is true, not on me to prove a negative, which is impossible. When you tell me the tooth fairy is real, and I say no she isn't, you can't say I'm making a claim.

So your claim is this:

No it doesn't. How is the white person prevented from getting a job? Getting a loan? Getting convicted of something they did not commit? Attacked by police? How?

More vague generalities and no specifics. Qualified white people are frequently prevented from getting a job by affirmative action "institutions". Every intelligent white male knows not the answer those questionnares at the end of every job application, because they are an overt threat to his chances. And white people were killed 3-to-1 over blacks last year by police, despite blacks committing murder at a rate of 400% proportionate to the population (13% of the population, 50% of the murder)

Sounds like you don't understand institutional racism at all.

There is nothing to understand. It's fiction, unless you're talking about racism against white males via affirmative action, which indeed is institutional.

Racism in 2016 is mostly institutionalized and subtle.

Unless you listen to Black Lives Matter, where it's quite overt.

There is no institutionalized racism against white men, because that would require a majority of the power to be in the hands of non-white men and women.

Another lie which stems from the fact that racism, by definition, has nothing to do with power. A couple of crackpot professors converged on that in 1970 and the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam ran with it until it went mainstream. Black (or liberal, or feminist, etc) privilege means the ability to change the definitions of words when the facts aren't on your side. By redefining the word racism and then attributing it's false definitions to an invisible series of laws that can't be identified or changed, you've done exactly what the radical feminists did when they changed the definitions of rape for the sole purpose of conducting a "study" with the intent to conclude 20% of women are victims of rape on college campus. The actual number is a fraction of 1%, but what you do is create a problem that can't be solved by identifying a boogeyman (preferably one immune to the 5 senses) and speaking in vague generalities, and you have a scapegoat with no expiration date.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Eye B Rollin,

I'm done. Damn it I'm done. I tried to have an honest conversation with you but you aren't having an honest conversation.

You can't even respond to an argument without fabricating arguments. Strawman after Strawman after strawman.

There's no way in hell if we are living in a country, that gives the best opportunities, jobs, credit, etc., to WHITE PEOPLE, that Black America could be so successful.

Here you go again assuming that these two ideas are mutually exclusive. For one, Black America is NOT successful compared to other races in America.

Your theory does not match up with the performance numbers and if you were being honest, you would admit that.

But it does. Where does it not match up?

But you aren't willing to have an honest conversation, so I'm wasting my time here.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to be honest on either side. We can't get anywhere until we have an HONEST conversation.

No false equivalencies. The other "side" doesn't acknowledge institutional racism, income inequality, climate change, corporate socialism, or that American exceptionalism is a bull**** slogan.

Also for you to say THUGS are a non-factor, yeah, go tell that to the people in Chicago. So far in 2016:

- 218 have been shot and killed
- 1,165 have been shot and wounded
- 244 homicides

But thug culture is a non-factor? I'm done......I can't have a conversation with people who do not wish to be honest.

You blame thug culture. I blame decades of housing segregation and discrimination in the tale of two cities. Chicago is one of the most racially segregated cities in the United States. Do you know ANYTHING about American history? Are you really that ignorant? Martin Luther King said white people in the South could learn how to hate from people in Chicago. Chicago is racist as **** and always has been.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Sorry, but you're making the claim of institutional racism. I am saying there is no such thing. The onus is on you to substantiate why you believe something is true, not on me to prove a negative, which is impossible. When you tell me the tooth fairy is real, and I say no she isn't, you can't say I'm making a claim.

If you provide counter evidence, we know who is right. If I make an affirmative argument and your response is "prove it," what follows is continuous goalpost fallacies. Now, run along and continue being willfully ignorant. "Institutional racism" is easy to do research on.

More vague generalities and no specifics. Qualified white people are frequently prevented from getting a job by affirmative action "institutions". Every intelligent white male knows not the answer those questionnares at the end of every job application, because they are an overt threat to his chances.

Oh boo hooo. White male didn't get into Duke and had to go to Rutgers. Cry me a River. That's not institutional racism at all.

And white people were killed 3-to-1 over blacks last year by police, despite blacks committing murder at a rate of 400% proportionate to the population (13% of the population, 50% of the murder)

The country is ~70% white and ~13% black, and your complaining that whites are killed disproportionately less than blacks. Got it.

There is nothing to understand. It's fiction, unless you're talking about racism against white males via affirmative action, which indeed is institutional.

Where is the big conspiracy against white males? Everywhere I go I see white men in positions of power. Damn, 43 of the 44 Presidents were white men. Congress is 80% white and 80% men. Nearly every governor in the country is a white male. Most policemen are white males. Employers, businessmen, judges, do I need to go on? Help me understand this reality of the struggle against white men.

Unless you listen to Black Lives Matter, where it's quite overt.

Yea it's racist to tell white policemen to stop killing black men. Got it.

Another lie which stems from the fact that racism, by definition, has nothing to do with power.

Institutionalized racism has everything to do with power. There is none without it.

A couple of crackpot professors converged on that in 1970 and the Black Panthers and Nation of Islam ran with it until it went mainstream. Black (or liberal, or feminist, etc) privilege means the ability to change the definitions of words when the facts aren't on your side. By redefining the word racism and then attributing it's false definitions to an invisible series of laws that can't be identified or changed, you've done exactly what the radical feminists did when they changed the definitions of rape for the sole purpose of conducting a "study" with the intent to conclude 20% of women are victims of rape on college campus. The actual number is a fraction of 1%, but what you do is create a problem that can't be solved by identifying a boogeyman (preferably one immune to the 5 senses) and speaking in vague generalities, and you have a scapegoat with no expiration date.

Kind of like you Trumpers with Muslims and immigrants.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

If you provide counter evidence, we know who is right. If I make an affirmative argument and your response is "prove it," what follows is continuous goalpost fallacies. Now, run along and continue being willfully ignorant. "Institutional racism" is easy to do research on.

Here we go again. "Research" from where? Al Sharpton's show on MSNBC or a weekly column on Salon by a black communist professor are not credible sources. I'm actually presenting data and evidence. You're speaking in subtle racist undertones.

Oh boo hooo. White male didn't get into Duke and had to go to Rutgers. Cry me a River. That's not institutional racism at all.

Yes it is. Affirmative action is a process used in institutions to disseminate (read: discriminate) based on skin color. But you celebrate it, because the victim is white. I must be getting under your skin a little bit - you're reverting to a bit more overtly racist tone as you continue to lose more ground in the debate.

The country is ~70% white and ~13% black, and your complaining that whites are killed disproportionately less than blacks. Got it.

I'm not complaining about the 326 whites killed by cops last year. Many of them probably deserved it. What I am saying is since blacks commit a wild amount of crime proportionate to their percentage of the population, a cop is objectively more likely to shoot a white suspect first.

Where is the big conspiracy against white males? Everywhere I go I see white men in positions of power. Damn, 43 of the 44 Presidents were white men. Congress is 80% white and 80% men. Nearly every governor in the country is a white male. Most policemen are white males. Employers, businessmen, judges, do I need to go on? Help me understand this reality of the struggle against white men.

The struggle white men face is, as in the example you so eloquently stated above, is in the inability to go to Duke even when he qualifies. And among those whites who did sneak into Duke, the stifling of free speech on this campus and others like it by bullying gangs like Black Lives Matter. The inability to express any ethnic pride thanks to three generations of white guilt, and the inability to even have the conversation for fear of being called a racist by hustlers like yourself

Yea it's racist to tell white policemen to stop killing black men. Got it.

It's racist to claim there is an epidemic of white policemen killing black men when black men kill each other at about a 1000-to-1 ratio. It brings to the forefront of the conversation your radical tribalism. Some of your fellow black men with far better critical thinking skills than you have explained this in depth: black lives only matter in the rare event of a white perpetrator. It's your tribalism and hatred for whites that makes you believe the taking of a black life by one of them is objectively worse than the taking of a black life by one of our own.

And it's quite racist of you to ignore the fact that in 90% of violent interracial crime, they involve a black perpetrator and a white victim. White lives matter.

Institutionalized racism has everything to do with power. There is none without it.

No matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

That's the legal definition of racism. It has nothing to do with power.

Kind of like you Trumpers with Muslims and immigrants.

You meant to say you whites again, didn't you? That's OK. Every statistic I uttered about Muslims is cold, hard, empirical data, the type of which you've presented none of in this entire thread. Notice that you couldn't dispute any of it. Just cold hard facts slapping you in the face. No exaggerations or generalities. Real numbers.

There is no demographic on this planet currently wreaking more havoc on the world than brown-skinned Muslims, many of whom are literally stuck in the 7th century, but you deny the problem out of some sense of solidarity to anyone and everyone on the basis of non-whiteness. You might get away this in your liberal and tribal inner circles and you're not used to white people talking back to you, but your garbage doesn't pass muster once you find one who'll fact-check your lies.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Take it from Ayyan Hirsi Ali, the bravest, most articulate, intelligent & charming woman in the United States today. An uncrowned Nobel Peace Prize winner whose shoes you couldn't tie.

 

[Tenacity]

You can't even respond to an argument without fabricating arguments. Strawman after Strawman after strawman.

You blame thug culture. I blame decades of housing segregation and discrimination in the tale of two cities. Chicago is one of the most racially segregated cities in the United States. Do you know ANYTHING about American history? Are you really that ignorant? .

I'm becoming ignorant by continuing to have a discussion with you.

If I stated a FACT such as 2 + 2 = 4, instead of responding saying YES Tenacity you have a point because 2 + 2 does in fact equal 4.....instead you would respond with the following:

"Tenacity, okay but why does 2+2 = 4? Who established the rules that 2+2 = 4? You are looking at the equation through the eyes of (insert a term related to the white man holding blacks down here), 2 doesn't even equal 2 Tenacity, so how could 2+2 = 4? Tenacity you need to wake up."

For pages and pages on end, this is how you respond to FACTS I post. We can't have a god damn discussion like this. Either I'm being trolled or you are so much of a FAR LEFT socialist/liberal SJW, that the only thing that matters is the message and narrative you want to promote..........data, facts, logic and common sense do not apply to your reasoning. IF the group wants to promote that black people are held down by whites, that's what's going to be promoted, TO HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to have an honest conversation anymore. Everybody just wants to get up and SPIN their narratives and talking points.....to HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

2+2 only equals 4 when it's CONVENIENT for your narrative to do so. Just like you can preach personal responsibility to me when I RANT about the Job Market, but when I post Chicago Thug Violence Stats, you say nothing about their personal responsibility in the act...and only talk about how racism is making them do it.

Fvcking insane...........

 

[Tictac]

I'm becoming ignorant by continuing to have a discussion with you.

If I stated a FACT such as 2 + 2 = 4, instead of responding saying YES Tenacity you have a point because 2 + 2 does in fact equal 4.....instead you would respond with the following:

"Tenacity, okay but why does 2+2 = 4? Who established the rules that 2+2 = 4? You are looking at the equation through the eyes of white supremacy, 2 doesn't even equal 2 Tenacity, so how could 2+2 = 4? Tenacity you need to wake up."

For pages and pages on end, this is how you respond to FACTS I post. We can't have a god damn discussion like this. Either I'm being trolled or you are so much of a FAR LEFT socialist/liberal SJW, that the only thing that matters is the message and narrative you want to promote..........data, facts, logic and common sense do not apply to your reasoning. IF the group wants to promote that black people are held down by whites, that's what's going to be promoted, TO HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

This is why this country is so divided, nobody wants to have an honest conversation anymore. Everybody just wants to get up and SPIN their narratives and talking points.....to HELL with data, facts, logic and common sense.

2+2 only equals 4 when it's CONVENIENT for your narrative to do so. Just like you can preach personal responsibility to me when I RANT about the Job Market, but when I post Chicago Thug Violence Stats, you say nothing about their personal responsibility in the act...and only talk about how racism is making them do it.

Fvcking insane...........

@EyeBRollin has been caught in so many gaffs, lies, reversals, hilarious conspiracy theories and low grade flaming that it's funny. Then he says he "proved his point" and says he's made his point, name calls and moves to the next pointless exercise. He declares victory and walks away like the good little narcissist he is.

He claimed to be a civil engineer. His 'answer' to his (crackpot) theory of 9/11 was "the law of conservation of energy". No, seriously, this was his complete answer, after which he declared the matter fully explained and settled. It was then I got that he is nothing more than a troll or some kind of mental defective.

Shuck, jive, dissemble, tap dance, be caught out flat wrong, lies and inconsistency after inconsistency and then act as though it didn't happen. Then walk away. And this has been going on for months.

You guys have fun. I put him on "ignore" a month ago. Let the newbies figure out they're dealing with his bullsh*t. His typing wouldn't stand up to middle school debate standards. It is trolling, pure a simple because he has no friends IRL. They got tired of his sh*t long ago.

I don't deal with delusional.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Yup. EyeBRollin has been thoroughly shredded by 3-4 different people in this thread and still wants to scurry back to BLM for more talking points before coming back for more beatings.

He might be a "civil engineer", but it's apparent he never took a debate class.

Dhoulmagus quit while he wasnt so far behind days ago...

 

[EyeBRollin]

It brings to the forefront of the conversation your radical tribalism. Some of your fellow black men with far better critical thinking skills than you have explained this in depth: black lives only matter in the rare event of a white perpetrator. It's your tribalism and hatred for whites that makes you believe the taking of a black life by one of them is objectively worse than the taking of a black life by one of our own.

That's a **** argument that I never made, and the idea is that POLICE taking the lives of black citizens is objectively worse than gang violence. Black folks hold rallies against gang violence all the time, especially in Chicago.

And it's quite racist of you to ignore the fact that in 90% of violent interracial crime, they involve a black perpetrator and a white victim. White lives matter.

One small detail, you fail to mention the extreme difference in encounter rates. The average white person encounters far less black people on a daily basis than vice versa.

No matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

That's the legal definition of racism. It has nothing to do with power.

Congrats, you can read.

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http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/institutional-racism
Institutional racism -
A form of racial inequality resulting not from conscious discrimination, but from the cumulative effect of subconscious racism and/or from the aggregate inertial discriminatory effect of individuals within a non-diverse group favoring like-minded individuals.

You meant to say you whites again, didn't you? That's OK.

No, I specifically meant you Trumpers.

Every statistic I uttered about Muslims is cold, hard, empirical data, the type of which you've presented none of in this entire thread. Notice that you couldn't dispute any of it. Just cold hard facts slapping you in the face. No exaggerations or generalities. Real numbers.

Data is data. I didn't dispute any of Tenacity's data. The differences is the conclusions draw from it. You use data to justify your bigotry.

There is no demographic on this planet currently wreaking more havoc on the world than brown-skinned Muslims, many of whom are literally stuck in the 7th century, but you deny the problem out of some sense of solidarity to anyone and everyone on the basis of non-whiteness. You might get away this in your liberal and tribal inner circles and you're not used to white people talking back to you, but your garbage doesn't pass muster once you find one who'll fact-check your lies.

I don't much give a damn about anyone talking back to me. The demographic wreaking most havoc on the world has been the U.S. government, through oil-imperialism.