1 in 3 single men live in poverty in Canada

[Desdinova]

Came across this article. Nice to see SOMEONE noticed that men get the shaft when it comes to government programs.

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[Stagger Lee]

In the states men get the shaft when it comes private sector jobs too let alone government programs. It's kind of the plan to take from more deserving males and give it to females. And for every study that gets into the media showing hard evidence that men are at a disadvantage at least 10 media reports are making unsubstantiated claims that it's just the opposite and women are being disadvantaged.

 

[englishman]

I could tell some stories about this one.

I was/am a single father after my ex died in a motorcycle accident long time ago. My daughter is grown up now in her late 20's.

We moved to Canada from a working class background over seas, and we arrived here with not much cash.

Things were going OK for about 18 months until I got sick. No body seemed to know what the sickness was, and I went for tests and x rays etc...

The worst part was that I was just exhausted, so tired I couldn't go to work much.

So I went down to the welfare office, the guy who had my case was this cvnt called Brian.

He had me bring my daughter down to prove she existed, this was after I'd shown him her mothers death certificate and other documents.

That asz hole haranged me every month I got that bit of assistance. A women I knew that facilitated a single mothers group told me he was know at the group for being a good guy to the single moms! (Thanks Brian, ya white knight retard)

The women at the single moms group hooked me up with a charity that helped single moms out with services that people donated, like hair cuts and massages therapy and the like.

They didnt like that I was a single father, even though the mother was dead. So after I'd used a couple of the free services they called me up and left a message saying "um, were sorry, you cant come again, it's just the wrong energy" Again this was a guy, thanks again Mr white knight

I phoned my father in Europe as I'd sold everything I had to sell and had the electric cut off. I said dad, I'm sick man... no body knows why, will you lend me 50 bucks to get the electric back on, i cant work. He replied "son, no, a guy like your age should be able to pay your own bill"

I saw that a local progressive health food chain store was collecting for 'single moms' I wrote to them and asked them, why discriminate against single dads. They wrote back and said the we have checked with the YMCA and they have similar for single fathers. So I called the YWCA and they said no such thing there. So I wrote the store again and called them on their bvllsh1t...:kick:

A funny thing is, that at the time, and Im talking 17 years ago, I had applied for subsidized housing... as a single father with a daughter whose mother had died I figured I'm a legit case and figured I'll get a call.


Anyway I never did get a call, and I heard through someone who did live there that It mostly man hating single mums in there anyway. So I was sort of glad, but pissed off at same time.

My daughter has since had a child of her own, and her and the guy broke up.... Now here the story is completely different. Within 4 months she got a 3 bedroom home in a nice neighbourhood, incredibly subsidised. A charity brought her free furniture and delivered it right into the rooms it was needed. She's been back to school and got subsidies for that.

Myself, as far as I know I'm still on the wait list for the subsidized housing. Of course if they ever called, which they wont! I'd say thanks but fvck off. I've since bought four properties and currently have 3 rentals of which I'm the landlord.... BUT no thanks to any of those cvnts and retard white knights that I ran into over the years.:nono:

 

[corrector]

Why isn't anyone mounting a constitutional challenge and suing the government if there is a systemic discrimination of government services based on gender? There would be a class-action lawsuit or some news of lawsuits out there.

Notice how people are hard on guys who live at home with their parents who don't have the means to live on their own. When in reality, the odds are stacked against a man to succeed in this society on all levels. Unless you have a good job that pays well, you are basically fvcked.

In the workplace, a woman can make a false allegation of sexual harassment and you could lose your job. An attractive woman that sleeps with the boss can be trained for a higher position by a guy that's worked there for 20 years and didn't get a promotion.

The legal system, the social system, etc... are all for women who make babies from the alpha male jerks and have the beta males pay for all of it through their taxes and should they fall through the cracks then they are shafted being single males.

But, if there is any cold consolation, 1-3 is 33.33%, and 1 in 5 is 20%, making a 13.3% differential. It's different than if it was 1-2 to 1-20 or something like that.

 

[5string]

Des

I get what you are saying about men being ignored and the emphasis is on women....because they are women. I get the point.

But granted, some people need help and should get it no doubt. If one in three single guys needs goverment assistance in Canada, that tells me that they have one bigtime fvcked up entitlement system there.

Boo fvcking hoo.

A man should step up and take care of himself first and foremost, and not rely on his fellow taxpayers to subsidize his bad decisions and lifestyle.

 

[corrector]

Des

I get what you are saying about men being ignored and the emphasis is on women....because they are women. I get the point.

But granted, some people need help and should get it no doubt.

The way your post sounds, I would imagine you'd think that no guy needs help. So, what are legitimate cases in your view?

If one in three single guys needs goverment assistance in Canada, that tells me that they have one bigtime fvcked up entitlement system there.

How do you figure that? What about the ecomony? What about all the jobs being shipped to India and China and the shrinking middle-class? You've got a nation of haves and have nots. Statistically, most of the wealth is concentrated into a few hands.

Most of the people in poverty, for your information, are probably working poor men on minimum wage and make less money than the Statistic Canada's cutoff for poverty and may be having to live in shelters, or go to a food bank because the money from these jobs are not enough to live on.

Boo fvcking hoo.

A man should step up and take care of himself first and foremost, and not rely on his fellow taxpayers to subsidize his bad decisions and lifestyle.

Yes, he should go and panhandle for change on a busy street, rob a bank, join organized crime, or break and enter people's homes. Having no other options, as you said, a man should take care of himself first. That way, tax-payers can subsidize jail costs, hey maybe a lawsuit for millions of dollars against the system for unfair treatment against the police or system.

What bad decisions and lifestyle? If a woman spreads her legs and have children, they are all of a sudden put up on a pedistle of the system and are totally subsidized. So, tell me about the bad decisions that guys make?

Oh, yes, I know, a guy flirted with a girl from work and engaged in small talk, the lady makes a false complaint for sexual harassment and is fired and now he needs welfare. This is the bad decision 5strings is talking about.

Lifestyle? What lifestyle? You can't have a lifestyle on social assistance or these programs anyway....barely pays for anything these days.

 

[5string]

corrector

I said in my post that people who need help should get it. Now we can debate what costitutes help till the cows come home but let's just say that people who are disabled should, and others who can't work or take care of themselves as well.

What get's me is "one out of three" need assitsance! Come on, the economy is not THAT bad. Given that, if true, tells me the one out of the three has made some bad decisions in life. Personally, I would not wish to pay for someone else's poor choices.

You are right, you can't have a lifestyle on social assistance or these programs anyway....barely pays for anything these days.

Why should you? Do they deserve it? Is it a right?

To use your example, yes, the woman who gets knocked up as you have described has made a bad decision. The father made a bad decision too. The dumba$$ didnt wear a condom.

And the woman who lost her job after making the false claim doesnt need welfare. She needs another job.

I have always had a good job. If I lost it, it sure would not prevent me from getting on at the local auto parts store rather than sucking off the system.

Let's just say if you can work, you should get out and do just that if at all possible.

 

[Zarky]

what does this have to do with seduction?

 

[Stagger Lee]

Des

I get what you are saying about men being ignored and the emphasis is on women....because they are women. I get the point.

But granted, some people need help and should get it no doubt. If one in three single guys needs goverment assistance in Canada, that tells me that they have one bigtime fvcked up entitlement system there.

Boo fvcking hoo.

A man should step up and take care of himself first and foremost, and not rely on his fellow taxpayers to subsidize his bad decisions and lifestyle.

But why shouldn't a woman have to do the same? About the only way a man can take care of himself is with a job, which is easier for a woman to get. Men have not only an unfair and unlevel playing field, but a sometime no field out to get into the game. Plus a female can always shack up with a man to support her.

You see, the whole safety network is geared toward benefiting women and their children. But it isn't even really about benefiting women or children as much as it is about making women independent from men.

There's also the issue of illness. Any man could become ill at any time and be unable to work. There is not enough jobs to go around. At any given time a certian portion of men are going to be jobless. This is what safety nets are for, to carry people over. If you are agianst safety nets that's one thing. But you shouldn't be against them for men and OK for women. The idea that men should be held to a different standard, when being a man doesn't give you any advantage and only disadvantages in the modern system, is a crock of sh!t. It's really no different than men being considered second class citizens under the quise that just being a man magically makes you able to succeed in the modern system. That's basically the same bogus argument that feminist make.

 

[Stagger Lee]

what does this have to do with seduction?

It has nothing to do with it practically. But it is commentary on why women can function without men. Seduction is tied to economics. When women didn't have so much economic choices, they had a strong incentive to attract and cling to men. Women will working the pvssy for economic reasons. All this feminism and social leanings to give women economic advantage is largely so they don't have to work their sexuality.

 

[Desdinova]

what does this have to do with seduction?

Nothing, but here's the description of what is acceptable in this forum:

A forum for DJs at least 25 years old to discuss problems, situations, and techniques UNIQUE to older and more mature men.

 

[KarmaSutra]

what does this have to do with seduction?

I pity guys who believe cvnt is the only thing worth fighting for or discussing.

 

[corrector]

I just did my research. Yes, even in the jails, women get paid more money for their accomidation then men do. In Canada it's like $ 550 a day for every women spent in jail, while for men it's something like $ 290 (virtually half of what women are paid). What would justify that difference in cost?

Again, this is interesting. I'm surprized there has been no class-action lawsuit or legal redress here in Canada since gender equality in government institutions/programs is enshrined in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and we are seeing flagrant violations of the law.

What would a criminal woman in a jail require double the amount of government money than a man for? Her periods? It seems the woman would have access to programs that men wouldn't be able to access.

 

[john siegal]

Unfortunately....all the above is true. There are few if any social causes for men.

This is why there are more men in prison (about 10 times) and mental institutions (about 5 times) than women.

Life is just More difficult on Men.

PS
I have found this site to be useful and informative regarding the Rights of Men in the Age of Feminism.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/

 

[Zarky]

Nothing, but here's the description of what is acceptable in this forum:

A forum for DJs at least 25 years old to discuss problems, situations, and techniques UNIQUE to older and more mature men.

So this is a place to discuss prostate problems and liver spots too?

I thought this was a board to discuss banging chicks! No wonder I get so annoyed by the crap most guys post here. Seriously. I want to discuss picking up chicks, not how butthurt I am because 1 in 3 single men live in poverty in Canada.

Looks like it's time to find a new board. :rockon: