"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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“The rarest infield in the world “

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Look what I found :D
I like the comment section “rarest infield in the world “ :rofl:

Probably in Romania..
love the cheesy music too.

 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Nice kino demonstration by Zan
 

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Zan makes me laugh.
His Arts Amorta YT channel has about 100+ videos of his seduction philosophy and talks
“ The Art Of Beauty “
, “The beauty song”
“balancing your inner warrior and lover” etc

Truth is …. he’s just very handsome.:rofl:

Same story with Brent Smith.

 
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Zan makes me laugh.
His Arts Amorta YT channel has about 100+ videos of his seduction philosophy and talks
“ The Art Of Beauty “
, “The beauty song”
“balancing your inner warrior and lover” etc

Truth is …. he’s just very handsome.:rofl:
I've met Zan in real life long ago. He seemed a nice person, but also a bit...simple? And I also got the impression he isn't too genuine - he was nice, but it didn't feel too deep or meaningful - just a "casual" niceness to everybody.

From what I saw, despite his looks, he didn't make a great impression on girls. Perhaps because he was nice and sweet to the point of being cheesy and not being taken seriously, not being perceived as a genuine person?

I think his LTR is Romanian - which really says a lot - many Western seduction coaches can't get a hot woman in their home countries, so they get one from "easier" regions like Eastern Europe, Latin America, etc.

I find it even more hillarious - he's was not doing that great even with his good looks. :rofl:

And yes, him recording dozens of videos, writing a book, etc etc and other men listening to it, treating him as a "guru" is funny.

I don't find his ideas bad - many women enjoy romance, nice atmosphere, etc - but I think he overcomplicates it and goes too far in that direction. He unnecessarily makes it sound like it requires some kind of deeper philosophy, ideology, spirituality... :rolleyes:

In Poland, in the 70s/80s there was a country-wide famous seducer-criminal, Jerzy Kalibabka. He was seducing women and stealing jewelry and money from them, "borrowing" money, etc. He reputedly stole the equivalent of around 3.8 millions contemporary USD dollars. His successes were confirmed by the legal system, because he was prosecuted and sentenced for 15 years of prison. He stayed in prison for almost 10 years, then got out and despite being widely known as a criminal seducer, he still managed to seduce a model and had kids with her. :)

Why am I mentioning Kalibabka in a thread about Zan? Because Kalibabka was also using a "romantic" style. And he was obviously not a deep, spiritual person - he was a ruthless criminal. My point is that Zan is telling people a lot of unnecessary spiritual/ideological stuff, while in reality the "romantic style" can work very well without any kind of "spirituality".

BTW If you're interested in Kalibabka, you can read about him below - it's in Polish, but you can use a translator:



A video with parts where he is interviewed in prison (turn on subtitles + translation to English):

 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That’s very interesting @CharmingPsychopath i’ll definitely give it a watch :up:
Was Jerzy also fronting as a high statu$ guy ..a la the Tindler Swinder?

Zan does occasionally give some good tips.
But then I watched a video of him saying “I’m a terrible coach with students” (what??) and also “ I’m very dirty and direct with women” (what??) which made me reconsider.

this video has good advice re conversation, making statements vs asking questions. using assertive language ,’ I statements ‘etc is solid stuff imo.

 

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I think his LTR is Romanian - which really says a lot - many Western seduction coaches can't get a hot woman in their home countries, so they get one from "easier" regions like Eastern Europe, Latin America, etc.
She's about 26yrs younger than him and she's an architect. They got together when she was about 22 and she was a very pretty girl so I'd say he hit the jackpot (youth + looks + smarts).
Also, you have to consider that the video in OP was filmed in London and he was about 50yrs old at that time. Why would a Canadian 50yrs old 'seduction coach' with not much to his name other than the clothes on his back be successful with women +20yrs younger?
 

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@CharmingPsychopath

more good stuff here from him that maybe vibes with what you say re sexual state..


but the good stuff is buried in an ocean of other sh1t he talks about. And his very life stories are very suspect.

“I left home at 13 with a knife and a rifle “
“I grew up with the wolverines in Canada ”
“I quit my job , without a safety net and just went out an became a vagabond pirate adventurer ”

…riiight.
 
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