"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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“Physically fit”

Epicwinguy

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Can we stop saying a guy has to be “physically fit” to bang reasonably attractive women, and just say he needs 6 or 8 pack abs?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There's no question that abs will get you laid more, but not so much if you're scrawny. You really need a decent overall physique too.

But it always makes me laugh when girls pretend they're above all that and would never be so shallow. What a load of crap. A good body raises your whole social value too, which is another factor that turns girls on. And it's something most men can achieve with a bit of dedication.
 

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Can we stop saying a guy has to be “physically fit” to bang reasonably attractive women, and just say he needs 6 or 8 pack abs?
A 6 pack is not enough unless there is a well made frame to begin with and even then you still need a decent height.

B1tches have a lower and lower value day after day but higher and higher demands.

Glad I'm out after pillaging the market in 10s.
 

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It's a universal signifier of value. I'll call it USV from now on. A handful of girls don't like bodybuilder types who look like caricatures but I would bet hard cash that there isn't a straight woman alive who doesn't find visible abs sexually attractive.

Another USV is being a pilot. Whilst even a rock star might not be automatically attractive to a cello player (but odds are his social status will see to it) because her chosen musical field is so different to his, tell women you're a pilot - and be able to back it up - and I guarantee they'll instantly display strong interest. So long as you're in shape of course.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Can we stop saying a guy has to be “physically fit” to bang reasonably attractive women, and just say he needs 6 or 8 pack abs?
Guys with confidence and dad guts are banging hos.... So don't let not having a 6 pack be a cop-out. Never the less put in the work so you look better naked.
 

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I have 6 pack abs and still have to deal with bs. Does it help me get dates and matches? Absolutely!
This might be a dumb question but how does this help? Why would any women see you shirtless before a date? Unless you have a shirtless pic on OLD.
 
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This might be a dumb question but how does this help? Why would any women see you shirtless before a date? Unless you have a shirtless pic on OLD.
pic on OLD and it’s only useful in OLD or party scenarios. On dates, a girl can easily be intimidated by someone that’s more fitter than them.
 

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There's no question that abs will get you laid more, but not so much if you're scrawny. You really need a decent overall physique too.

But it always makes me laugh when girls pretend they're above all that and would never be so shallow. What a load of crap. A good body raises your whole social value too, which is another factor that turns girls on. And it's something most men can achieve with a bit of dedication.

Facts. Women are wayyyyyy more shallow than men. Hence why height is so important to them. I notice a massive defference at 190 to 205 pounds compared to my normal walking around weight of 225 to 230 pounds. Not only abs but your face looking thin is very important as well.
 

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Guys with confidence and dad guts are banging hos.... So don't let not having a 6 pack be a cop-out. Never the less put in the work so you look better naked.

Yeah. Having really good talk game can create a sense high status which can even trump looks. A lot of guys dont have that kind of talk game though. I only had it when i was doing cold sales and making youtube videos. If you got talk game and looks picking up women at bars becomes incredibly easy. With good looks/body alone you can just get drunk and grind on random girls and succeed though.

I know someone who is 6'6 and really thin. He doesn't have to say anything really. Girls approach him all the time at bars and even in the daytime at places like shopping malls. But to give him credit, he also approaches like crazy and always gets a lot of good numbers that lead to dates.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Can we stop saying a guy has to be “physically fit” to bang reasonably attractive women, and just say he needs 6 or 8 pack abs?
You don't need to be. Women have a wide range for what being fit means. I have women telling me their friends nicknamed me "muscles" even when I am 20 lbs over where I would consider myself in shape.

If you legit put in work in the gym and have a big frame you can get away with 20-30 lbs of extra weight and still look muscular to a lot of women.
 

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Yeah. Having really good talk game can create a sense high status which can even trump looks. A lot of guys dont have that kind of talk game though. I only had it when i was doing cold sales and making youtube videos. If you got talk game and looks picking up women at bars becomes incredibly easy. With good looks/body alone you can just get drunk and grind on random girls and succeed though.

I know someone who is 6'6 and really thin. He doesn't have to say anything really. Girls approach him all the time at bars and even in the daytime at places like shopping malls. But to give him credit, he also approaches like crazy and always gets a lot of good numbers that lead to dates.
Talk game is the winner. Women love being properly manipulated.
 

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B1tches have a lower and lower value day after day but higher and higher demands.
I have noticed that as well.

At 5’7 and an ectomorph, I pull better during bulk season. I’m around 170 lbs whole bulking, 160-165 while cutting. I look aesthetically better at the lighter weight, but pull less women. Go figure.
A 5'5" guy I know has said something similar. When he is heftier (not necessarily bulk muscle), he pulls more than when he is lighter.
 

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At 5’7 and an ectomorph, I pull better during bulk season. I’m around 170 lbs whole bulking, 160-165 while cutting. I look aesthetically better at the lighter weight, but pull less women. Go figure.
Probably a lil more "relaxed" with the extra fat and that works with your natural game. Leaner and meaner is a bit more of an assh0le and you haven't been able to calibrate that.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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An 8 per cent increase in respondents reported that more Americans find the dad bod attractive (up to 65 per cent from 57 per cent). More people found the dad bod “sexy” (61 per cent over 51 per cent last year), and an additional 10 per cent think that the dad bod is the new six-pack (51 per cent up from last year’s 41 per cent).
Load of BS
 

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An 8 per cent increase in respondents reported that more Americans find the dad bod attractive (up to 65 per cent from 57 per cent). More people found the dad bod “sexy” (61 per cent over 51 per cent last year), and an additional 10 per cent think that the dad bod is the new six-pack (51 per cent up from last year’s 41 per cent).
This was a study conducted by bloated guys with dad bods. As the old saying goes, “history is written by he who holds the pen”
 

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Can we stop saying a guy has to be “physically fit” to bang reasonably attractive women, and just say he needs 6 or 8 pack abs?
Most attractive chicks have already decided whether they’re gonna bang you or not before your shirt comes off to reveal your abs (or lack thereof)

By how your clothes fit, most girls can tell if you're physically fit (i.e. not fat; noticeable muscle tone), and that's probably why you hear people saying to get "physically fit" instead of get an 8-pack
 
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I was definitely more muscular bulky in college where I could be mistaken for a football player. Now I’ve leaned up and to around 11% bf, and I’m getting way more girls now than before.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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