"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm uncofident, shy, depressed, and have never even spoken to a girl

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'll tell yout he end all be all advice that you'll need.
Just do it. You'll make a TON of mistakes. The only way to get good at getting girls is repitition and alot of failure, and the sooner you start the better.

I wanted to keep it short and sweet but let me touch on this because it a mistake I often witness and made myself..
Don't let trying to be too cool turn you into a douche bag. Cool people don't have to be mean, abusive or verbally rude, thats for insecure people. But also have a backbone, if she dosen't talk to you respectfully you DO NOT have to put up with it.
 
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You've come to the wrong place bud. We only help out on issues related to getting girls. you may need professional help, medications, etc.
I suggest you seek another alternative besides this site.
 
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r0cky said:
You've come to the wrong place bud. We only help out on issues related to getting girls. you may need professional help, medications, etc.
I suggest you seek another alternative besides this site.
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Uh...youre quite mistaken.
 
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PlayToWin

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r0cky said:
You've come to the wrong place bud. We only help out on issues related to getting girls. you may need professional help, medications, etc.
I suggest you seek another alternative besides this site.
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I also agree that your quite mistaken. This site is the opposite, its about improving your overall self and learning to build confidence, self-esteem, and happiness from the inside. Then after you have reached that, then you work on getting women, and hopefully by that point with everything else in place it shouldn't be too hard.

With that said, it is possible that maybe the OP's problems significant enough that he could need more professional outside help, but I don't think that is the case, and frankly we don't know nearly enough specifics to tell whether he needs professional help or just a boost in the right direction.

I also think that its possible he could either be a troll, or at least just exaggerating his actual problems considering he didn't post any specifics to his situation or for that matter he didn't elaborate what so ever.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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He sounds like me. Dude, All I can say is, try to fight it in you're head.
 
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I would have to agree with 500 W00P. I don't know any specifics about your problems, but all you have to do is do it. You want to talk to woman just go by and start talking to them. You want to get ripped, you gotta go to the gym. Confidence comes from reaching your potentials and raising the bar higher. Your not gonna hit home runs every time your at bat, that's life. But you never know unless you try. I rarely went home with the best looking girl at the party, but i never went home alone.
 
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500_W00P said:
I'll tell yout he end all be all advice that you'll need.
Just do it. You'll make a TON of mistakes. The only way to get good at getting girls is repitition and alot of failure, and the sooner you start the better.

I wanted to keep it short and sweet but let me touch on this because it a mistake I often witness and made myself..
Don't let trying to be too cool turn you into a douche bag. Cool people don't have to be mean, abusive or verbally rude, thats for insecure people. But also have a backbone, if she dosen't talk to you respectfully you DO NOT have to put up with it.
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Thank you. Your wise words struck true and have given me so much to think about.

To those wishing they could help, what kind of information do you mean?

Edited - I thought by ignoring the issue it would go away. Apparently not. I am no troll, and my problem is sincere. Thank you three for demonstrating your degree of insight on the subject.
 
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In fact sorry, I should not sh!t on you without knowing your situation.

Exceptions are: mentally retarded, handicapped, or with Aspergers.
You can form a sentence, so that rules out #1.

If you happen to be in a wheelchair or have a form of autism then you probably won't find much help on this site. Just being sincere.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Wow. And people were calling me a troll - but when a true troll comes on here people are eager to respond and take this troll thread seriously -- lol! Wonder who this Love is, probably a banned user under a different alias.

Here's my advice Love, next time you are in public, ask a random woman for the time. There you've talked to a girl. Or better yet, if you go to a bank or food-store, just choose a female cashier or teller. Ask the cashier, why did the bill come up to this? (bingo you are talking to her). Or ask the bank teller for an explanation for your account since the numbers don't add up? (bingo you are talking to her)
 
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First off your on the right track you've picked an outstanding screen name which shows you have a lot to offer and you haven't picked a losers screen name that's cool Love pat yourself on the back.

Have you ever spoken to your Mom if shes still living sure your have she is a girl it might not be the same as talking to an attractive girl you'll like to hang out with but you already process the skills to talk to a girl you find attractive you just build from there.

Take small steps don't jump on the wagon while it's moving or you'll likely fall off and beat yourself up.

Shyness sucks but you have to believe you deserve love in your life and the only way to do this is talk talk talk until your comfortable being around people in general..

I still suffer a bout of it now and then even at my age so don't feel bad I just force it even sometimes stuttering my words but whats important is doing and gaining the skills and being comfortable being you.

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Love, read the DjBible, link is at bottom of page. Study this for a while and USE IT. Dont try to sponge the whole thing at once though, also read through the other links at the bottom of the page. Another big help to me has been posts by Senor fingers and Pook so do a search on them throughout this forum. But i would recommend starting on the bible before anything else. At the end of all this you will get the general idea of how to be YOUR BEST SELF. Keep in mind you must take action and use what is given from this site out in the real world, dont become too dependent on this site. Look at this place as your base, and the outside world as YOUR PLAYING FIELD/STAGE/THEATRE.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SayWord? said:
you sure you're uncofident?
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If i've demonstrated otherwise to you on this forum, let me assure you when it comes to actually dealing with people off the keyboard, I'm a wreck and do not demonstrate any confidence whatsoever.

Thanks everyone for your help, I'm going to take a good look at that bible now.
 
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If you are too shy to approach and talk to girls try this, it cannot fail.

The next time you are served by a hot babe at a shop, say "Your Hot" gorgeous, beautiful, pretty, stunningly attractive, etc as you are about to leave.

Don't look back at the girl whilst you are walking away, just leave and look straight ahead of you.

If the girl likes you she will reveal it the next time that she sees you in the shop.

It is impossible to get rejected doing this.
 
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Bend over and I'll **** you in the ass... that should give you an idea that it isn't really all that.... Just keep on being a ***** like you are.. it's all good yo.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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