Rhoto
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Love said:
Why?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm uncofident, shy, depressed, and have never even spoken to a girl
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Why?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
broken dreams
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how old are you, Ive met a young guy who is 21 and ****s chicks in bathrooms.
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1 more thing I should just add from my own experience. If you feel frustrated, mad, sad, tired, exhausted, etc. LET IT OUT! Trying to keep cool during the situation is good and all, but don't hold all those bad feelings in. Like someone here already posted you will make A LOT of mistakes and YES you will feel like ****. Now, it's necessary you learn to keep your composure during the moment, but you need something to take out all that hell on. Go running, workout, have a hobby something that YOU yourself can enjoy and no one bothers. This will keep you from dropping into depression, giving up, angers and frustration. Remember that YOU are the important factor in this equation. Take care of yourself first above anyone else.
Thank you again for all the advice since my last post. I checked out those youtube videos and they really inspired me.
I've really noticed a change in the direction of my thoughts since I posted this topic, and I can honestly say I feel as if they're for the better.
I've really noticed a change in the direction of my thoughts since I posted this topic, and I can honestly say I feel as if they're for the better.
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Man, I know how you feel, but you've got to expand a bit. Tell us a bit more about your story, which can give us clues as to where you're coming from. All I can say is, good luck on the journey. There's a ton of good advice here.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Have you used online dating sites before. Or going to the bar. If someone evens pays you a little bit of attention than latch on. Don't discriminate on your first you can do that later, but that's a discussion for another thread!
500_W00P, you might like to check out this link. It will hopefully do a better job than I could at telling you what's worng with ur no doubt well intended advice.500_W00P said:
http://blog.psychologytoday.com/blo...nient-truth-sexual-monogamy-kills-male-libido
As a side note, interesting blog.
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Wrong. You most likely ran away from it and the next time ya'll meet, you're in the creep category. Worse than the friend zone.PigAdlemPimp said:
Love, not sure if your completely flaming or just slightly exaggerating...
I'm in a very similar position to you: unconfident, shy, depressed, been a while since I spoke to girls, and it's not uncommon for me to go weeks without talking to any girl (forget hot girls).
And I'm 21 years old. To make things worse, the rest of my life is pretty messed up too (doing poorly in school, no great career prospects, not even any close male friends).
I've been lurking for sometime, and your post finally snapped me out. I finally registered, and realized that a more active role may help us improve. There is great advice here and elsewhere, I just haven't been pushing myself at all.
I must have read hundreds of posts, tips, and FRs, but as long as I go back to jerking off/playing video games, the best advice is meaningless.
I'm in a very similar position to you: unconfident, shy, depressed, been a while since I spoke to girls, and it's not uncommon for me to go weeks without talking to any girl (forget hot girls).
And I'm 21 years old. To make things worse, the rest of my life is pretty messed up too (doing poorly in school, no great career prospects, not even any close male friends).
I've been lurking for sometime, and your post finally snapped me out. I finally registered, and realized that a more active role may help us improve. There is great advice here and elsewhere, I just haven't been pushing myself at all.
I must have read hundreds of posts, tips, and FRs, but as long as I go back to jerking off/playing video games, the best advice is meaningless.
I can't offer any help, but if you're being serious, I can at least assure you that I'm in there with you. Let's make the commitment right now, to getting better.Love said: