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insidious Good post...I can tell you really lived it. You are right, you lose everything.

That's true...I have a girl friend who would never date me because she knew something was wrong.

One other thing that I've learned from this....I have just gotten back in the dating scene. If you have issues that haunt you like this....no matter how well you THINK you are hiding them, women can smell that sh1t a mile away.

I do live in the US...my parents did teach me better than that. I can't even blame it on the female...she flirted, but I definitely persued her. The point is, that it comes back on you 10X over. It just isn't worth it.

West - - I agree. It was the very lowest thing I've ever done.

joekerr31 you are absolutely right. I was married for 7 years to a beautiful woman when I had an affair with a co-worker who is also married. The affair was exilirating but it has left me with a horrible guilty conscience. It is true that I wanted more attention from my wife...the cheatee was...

joekerr31 Great post. I think I have felt the protector symptoms you are speaking of. Maybe that's the key.

Thanks for the posts...I do need to continue dating. I think the holiday's have my mind f*cked.

I am having some trouble getting over this girl I was dating. Not to sound like a loser, but it's made me very depressed. I had previously posted on the board about this girl who "needed space" and changed very quickly. I believe I took the best DJ action, gave her all the space she wanted and...

I agree Slickster...she was done long before the talk. It was all formality. She hasn't said a word to me since I dropped her stuff off. The 12 beers and 6 yaeger bombs haven't helped me get over the fact that I totally was a beoootch aboutthis whole thing.

The chick that I just broke up with used the PMS excuse. That shouldn't be an excuse for being distant...usually there is more wrong than that. Sounds to me like she's unhappy with the relationship. Marriage is tough, because there is a lot more at stake. I'd sit her down and have a real heart...

speedo_meme The IMing was initiated by her. Not me. I didn't call her she called me. Either way it just wasn't meant to be and I'm not gonna sit here and pine about it. She is the loser in this situation, not me. I do agree that I should of backed off at the first hint of distance.

Haha...funny post. You guys are all heart.

I know what you're going through...it sucks, but if you let that rule your life it will really keep you from meeting someone new. Chicks can see a hurt guy a mile away and they won't come near you. Just suck it up man and remember that every dog has his day...and the roles may be reversed. Some...

Dr Phil - I think your comments would have actually been a good way to handle things. I don't think it is weak...it is being a man about things and not sticking around for the last ounce of "holly sh*t will this guy take a hint". Either way you go the "give me some space" crap is usually a bad...

Hey fellas! Well the crowd that said "She's done - move on" wins this debate. We had the lets just be friends BS talk. She actually said that I was too nice to her...go figure. I think I killed the challenge. She prefered the times when we were just sex buddies with no strings. Oh well, this is...

we've had sex...this was a quite serious relationship. She has asked me to bring her stuff back...including Christmas gifts that she was keeping at my place. She said the space she needs is more than a few days and that her clothes were something she needs day to day. I just really think she is...

Update, she just asked me to bring her stuff...the time she needs is more than a few days. I think that pretty much ends it.

Alright, here is an update. She just asked me to bring her stuff and said the time she needs is more than a few days.

That's good info too. I am kinda stuck here because I agree with both of the posts. I agree Desdinova that her actions seems different then her words. That's why I thought I am being too nice.