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Sure, I conceed it to be a passive statement, and it does indeed move the impetus. That was the intention- I go halfway in letting her know that I am amenable to meeting up, she then confims this by giving out the number. This has been a good technique in the past, and has been pretty good at...

Good point well made JoPhil. In my defence, I didn't feel it appropriate to do so over dinner in front of several of my colleagues (boss included). The issue of failure doesn't really bother me, but it might have put her in a tricky position were she not interested. This isn't a great...

Ok, so some speedily dispensed (thanks for the swift replies!) and evidently contrasting advice! I must confess that my line of thinking was much the same as that of Mr Me; were I to find myself in this sort of situation, this is the sort of line I would throw out. That said, I'm not a single...

Folks, Have been away from the boards for a while and have come back to re-learn the ropes! In any event, I would like your input on this scenario. Met a girl at a wedding (actually was sat next to her at dinner) and got on like the proverbial house on fire. Without going into too many...

Erm... so must have been your evil twin who wrote the other 198 posts then? Not strictly true- a sweeping generalisation of the highest order. The guy was just recounting a story- no different to another 100 posts on this board. If you wish to start a moral crusade, find someone...

Thanks CDB! Things always look a great deal more simple from somebody else's objective point of view. Sort of like not being able to see the wood for the trees! Word on the street is that said girl now has a boyfriend, which changes things slightly (despite no longer being a complete AFC, I...

Don't really know about fatal, but it is certainly a declaration of interest, in her eyes at least. You have therefore "shown your hand" so to speak, and so have lost the initiative. I think that pushing ahead on this at the moment will be very difficult- she will be on her guard. Also, the...

We are civil, I suppose would be the best way of putting things. I don't see her, as I actually met her through a friend, and she lives a couple of hundred miles away. Also the fact that I am in the Navy doens't tend to help my being around too much (but fine in this case). She wants to be...

The thing is, it is easily possible to sustain a relationship in the way these articles suggest- kissing ass, suplicating your self, constantly chasing, buying shyt all of the time. The result being that you will live the existence of a whipping boy, and even then will run the risk of being...

Anybody here had any success in macking women from an ex-girlfriends group of mates? I'm interested in playing a little game some time soon, but would like to know if anybody else has tried this, and if so, with what results (and what tactics)? Thanks Cyrano

Cheers guys. Good advice gratefulyl received. New man- you are correct on there being a possibility of over-analysis here, and are spot on with the women changing their minds comment. Mac Diddy- spot on! My ex split with me to shack up with "a friend" who had been hanging around like a bad...

Ouch!! I wouldn't want to do this myself. Not so much that I'm homophobic (I'm not) but rather that I just wouldn't want to take my clothes off in front a group of people with whom I have to work on a daily basis. Don't worry about what your body looks like- unless all of your classmates...

I split up with my ex in january, having gone abroad to work. Anyway, one of her housemates (who happens to be exceptioanlly attractive and intelligent) has been heard to say (to a friend of mine) that I was too good for the ex. Is there any meaning to this other than the obvious truth of the...

Austin, sounds like you had a run in with a gold digger for sure. I don't want to sound as though I know it all (not by a long way) but I'm living in Russia at the moment, and have to say that your story is familiar (although not on a personal level). Women here are amongst the most...

First up, a really good post by MoTU, even if I don't agree with it in it's entirety. Personally, I have come to the conclusion that you can be too determined/persistent. Some things will just never happen- it's that simple. I know that I may well be castigated for saying this, but it is the...

I second the picnic idea!! Even if our american cousins don't quite get it, I can vouch for this being a good idea. Also, as Austin Allegro said, it tends to go down well with the better class of women. Thats not to say that it won't work with the less classy types, it just means you have to...

I am living abroad for six months , and whilst here, have started seeing (in a mutually consensual f-buddy) way, another English girl. She is 25 and I am 22. Anyway, to avoid the details, things so far have been quite good- she is certainly a good performer, and I'm having a good time, and...

This is common stuff MrNiceGuy...... Had the same sh1t from my ex, felt cruddy for an age, still occasionally feel bad now. However, you will get over it. As time goes by, you will feel less and less bothered by her, as long as you keep the out of sight, out of mind principle strong...

I'd rather not waste my time with this sort of stuff. But I digress... Picking up the garbage from outside the house of somebody else (a practice generally referred to as 'dumpster diving') is illegal here in the UK at least. I'm also sure that it would be pretty well frowned upon by the...

Firstly, remove the caps lock. People will take you slightly more seriously if you do. Secondly- you don't have to come here and read people's posts. Nobody forced you to do so- if it really bites you that badly, then don't come back. You do make a good point in saying that some people over...