High specs but zero matches - Dating Apps

[Gamisch]

Please post a picture of a "5"/10 female, buddy. She will have to be healthy weighted, which for a 5ft4'ish woman is 108lbs > 142lbs. Thats what a healthy weight male 5 should be dealing with in a normal dating landscape. He shouldn't be stooping to fat 5ft4, 175llb pigs if he is a lean 5ft10, 163lbs man.

Let me guess, you're from Texas where the women are the same size as the SUV's or Trucks out there - so to you a fat disgusting Hog is a "mid", right?

To answer your question ; I'm from Europe.

Women here are more fit by default. But seriously; now I've been polite enough to answer your question please return the favor and answer mine;

1.Do you think those women youve posted are 5,s?

2. Do you think you would be able to seduce said women or would they ignore and /or reject you?

The problem with your way of rating women; its not realistic. It might be fun and games when you're behind your screen watching the pronhub or instagram models, but its not rooted in reality. A 5 ( to 6, which means right down the middle of the scale) basically means a " normal "looking woman. Make up , weight-loss, right clothes and she goes UP two points.

A 3 or lower would be a woman with a significant deficiency/error. A fat woman in a wheelchair. Old bald woman. A woman who's on crack or meth and sleeps on the street.

 

[Arete]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bumble/s/eYCxEmlxLz

Reddit is nowadays plastered with AFCs asking the same question; I dont have much luck/ get no matches or likes/ wwhat can I do to get more matches/ my ratio is I liked 1000 women while 3 liked me back

it seems like men get punished for being lazy. Men have been getting women WITHOUT Tinder for thousands of years, yet somehow it feels like the modern male cant do without OLD even though they have no success with it..

I have just seen the link. It strikes me as odd how everyone on reddit bashes him because he is apolitical (bots?). I'm apolitical too. This guy's bio was pretty similar to mine.

He even feels the need to apologize. Like seriously?

"Edit: Due to so many comments regarding this issue, I want to explain the 'apolitical' tag on my profile. My intention when saying I am 'apolitical' was to put across the fact ... "

Is there some kind of agenda going on against people that refuse to participate in the left vs right charade? I share the same opinion as this guy. Tired of clashing with people because of politics.

It seems to me that companies such as Reddit and match group have an interest in people taking sides. Politicians want to stay relevant after all ...

 

[Cheeky_James]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bumble/s/eYCxEmlxLz

Reddit is nowadays plastered with AFCs asking the same question; I dont have much luck/ get no matches or likes/ wwhat can I do to get more matches/ my ratio is I liked 1000 women while 3 liked me back

it seems like men get punished for being lazy. Men have been getting women WITHOUT Tinder for thousands of years, yet somehow it feels like the modern male cant do without OLD even though they have no success with it..

High specs for sure.
His bio is bland AF tho. Seriously , he needs to get his d1ck out a bit. It looks like just another bland, catch-all type bio. Tryna be cutesy and weak.
Zero humour , 1 dimensional.

He’d be better off with no bio at all vs that.
let the women fill in the blanks w their imagination based on just his looks.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I’d add to above as I’ve had a proper scan thru all the pics -
His pic w the chick and pic wearing the suit he looks fantastic . Almost Chad tier in those 2 pics.

 

[Gamisch]

I’d add to above as I’ve had a proper scan thru all the pics -
His pic w the chick and pic wearing the suit he looks fantastic . Almost Chad tier in those 2 pics.

Thats what I mean. I specifically posted this one because this is a normal/ good-looking dude who should have zero problems attracting women .

BUT, if you know you know...I know EXACTLY why he doesn't attract women. He's too vanilla. Too " John legend/ Bruno Mars". Too sweet, no sharp edges. Too bland for modern dating.. up untill 15 years ago this dude would've been happily married with a white picket fence and a golden retriever. Nowadays he's the back up/ back up / fall guy who gets cheated on constantly, always lingering in the friendzone.

Other dudes posting are worse looking than him and thus they have worse / similar results ( less than zero isn't possible, right?).

That's why I stated that men like OP might be better off by taking the L for now and leaving OLD all together .There are competitors who have better stats and even they yield bad results.

 

[Gamisch]

I have just seen the link. It strikes me as odd how everyone on reddit bashes him because he is apolitical (bots?). I'm apolitical too. This guy's bio was pretty similar to mine.

He even feels the need to apologize. Like seriously?

"Edit: Due to so many comments regarding this issue, I want to explain the 'apolitical' tag on my profile. My intention when saying I am 'apolitical' was to put across the fact ... "

Is there some kind of agenda going on against people that refuse to participate in the left vs right charade? I share the same opinion as this guy. Tired of clashing with people because of politics.

It seems to me that companies such as Reddit and match group have an interest in people taking sides. Politicians want to stay relevant after all ...

We're not allowed to be too political here , but I'll try to give my take on it as objectively as I can.

-The manospere been taken hostage by the alt right / right wing
-. A knee jerk reaction from men towards women's new found sexual freedom.
- frustrated men who seen generations of men in their family getting women effortlessly and now they all of sudden needing to be Chrish Hempsworth in order to attract a fat single mother
- men want to go BACK in time and bring back traditional roles, perhaps not understanding that it were women who got the short end of the stick.

Up untill two years ago it was cool to be MAGA . Now its a HUGE red flag to WOMEN( those creatures with that wet- wet between their legs that we want). Women collectively forcing men to adjust their views on life, love ,politics , religion ect. Those who dont like it get no play..

I leave it at that for now...

 

[Cheeky_James]

Thats what I mean. I specifically posted this one because this is a normal/ good-looking dude who should have zero problems attracting women .

BUT, if you know you know...I know EXACTLY why he doesn't attract women. He's too vanilla. Too " John legend/ Bruno Mars". Too sweet, no sharp edges. Too bland for modern dating.. up untill 15 years ago this dude would've been happily married with a white picket fence and a golden retriever. Nowadays he's the back up/ back up / fall guy who gets cheated on constantly, always lingering in the friendzone.

Other dudes posting are worse looking than him and thus they have worse / similar results ( less than zero isn't possible, right?).

That's why I stated that men like OP might be better off by taking the L for now and leaving OLD all together .There are competitors who have better stats and even they yield bad results.

bit why suggest he leave OLD?

If as we both agree his profile is way too vanilla.
He could just revamp it . and add in the missing elements and turn it around completely. If he had the right advice.

OLD is just marketing .
He just needs to change the marketing and rebrand himself.

 

[Cheeky_James]

it’s not about the marketing, the issue is supply and demand

sexy girls are not on old or not that active

whom are mainly active on old are sub par women + attention seekers

so if you look for a bit of quality, you will be disappointed no matter how “chady” you are

if you just want attention, then yeah the more “chady” you look the more likes you will get but in the vast majority of cases it will be from women whom you do not want to talk with or realize that they are just looking for attention

hmm yeah u could be right again BigPapa.
I see ChadFish experiments etc and the ease they get women, but I was always suspect on the quality of women Chads bang off apps, as that is never shown in the evidence. What’s the smv difference ..that matters

I cannot comment personally on higher tier women and unsure how much they use apps as tbh, I go the mid tier (and lower. ). Only occasionally get a sexy (and crazy) party girl. She’d still be only a sexy 7 tops at that.

I am not an insider in their world, unfortunately
All my study and practice of ‘Game’ never got me to the Promised Land

 

[Gamisch]

bit why suggest he leave OLD?
Makes no sense to me.

If we both agree his profile is too vanilla.
He could just revamp it . and add in the missing elements and turn it around completely. If he had the right advice.

OLD is just marketing .
He just needs to change the marketing and rebrand himself.

Because ( credit to @We_ArE_VeNOM who said this) ; men like to use OLD because they DON'T like rejections. Dude in his bio specifically says he " doesn’t like to approach women in bars and clubs".

So OLD gives the ILLUSION of not having to deal with rejection. But heres the conundrum; after swiping right on thousands of cute women and getting

no likes ,matches ,conversations and especially no dates and even more specifically no second dates and /or sex / relationships

it dawns down on a man that he's been rejected by ALL women who he swiped right on! 3786 rejections ...ouch!! While we do understand that women get exposed to (high value) men they would never be able to meet up untill a few ywars ago, simultaneously men are exposed to being rejected THOUSANDS of times in a short time span. We never talk about how OLD can kill a man's self esteem while he doesn't even leave his house! He might've been rejected more often than his previous four grandfathers together!

The "world " ,the dating scene , women collectively tell this man he is NOT attractive enough to even dip their toes into the the water and see what's he about!

So what's a man to do? A man has to accept that he's living proof of the definition of insanity because he keeps doing what he did while he expects a different result... he should leave OLD, level the F up and come back stronger !

I dont believe that a different sentence structure in his bio will change anything. Match.com.wants to milk him financially. He's a pay pig for the shareholders .

 

[Cheeky_James]

Because ( credit to @We_ArE_VeNOM who said this) ; men like to use OLD because they DON'T like rejections. Dude in his bio specifically says he " doesn’t like to approach women in bars and clubs".

So OLD gives the ILLUSION of not having to deal with rejection. But heres the conundrum; after swiping right on thousands of cute women and getting

no likes ,matches ,conversations and especially no dates and even more specifically no second dates and /or sex / relationships

it dawns down on a man that he's been rejected by ALL women who he swiped right on! 3786 rejections ...ouch!! While we do understand that women get exposed to (high value) men they would never be able to meet up untill a few ywars ago, simultaneously men are exposed to being rejected THOUSANDS of times in a shirt time span. We never talk about how OLD can kill a man's self esteem while he doesn't even leave his house! He might've been rejected more often than his previous four grandfathers together!

The "world " ,the dating scene , women collectively tell this man he is NOT attractive enough to even dip their toes into the the and see what's he about!

So what's a man to do? A man has to accept that he's living proof of the definition of insanity because he keeps doing what he did while he expects a different result...

I dont believe that a different sentence structure in his bio will change anything. Match.com.wants to milk him financially. He's a pay pig for the shareholders .

it is but a Game to me the apps.
I play it very much like a video game and (try) to attach no value to matches and rejections.
Chicks can unmatch out of the blue and it’s “meh” for me now.
“Likes” are real tho. It’s nice to get likes
But I do see your point,
And I’d never expect and LTR to come about off an app for me. So mayhe that’s the right call then for him then. idk. That’s a brutal amount of rejections.

 

[Gamisch]

it is but a Game to me the apps.
I play it very much like a video game and (try) to attach no value to matches and rejections.
Chicks can unmatch out of the blue and it’s “meh” for me now.
“Likes” are real tho. It’s nice to get likes
But I do see your point,
And I’d never expect and LTR to come about off an app for me. So mayhe that’s the right call then for him then. idk. That’s a brutal amount of rejections.

The difference between you and dude is you seem WAY more aloof and way less outcome dependent.

Again, we've already concluded that his looks ain't the problem..its his VIBE.

Life is a b1tch. Its difficult to put in words how the world can punish or reward a man for his vibe/ aura.

I would be a terrible dating coach, because i would tell 90% of my clients to forget about women for at least 18 to 24 months. I would tell my clients to STOP depending on women to be motivated but to rather find intrinsic motivation to become the best version you could ever be. Make money, be strong (physically, spirituality and mentally) and love thy self more than anything else. Find a goal larger than life.

Simultaneously I would be living proof that when you do so you will get better results...

 

[Arete]

Because ( credit to @We_ArE_VeNOM who said this) ; men like to use OLD because they DON'T like rejections. Dude in his bio specifically says he " doesn’t like to approach women in bars and clubs".

So OLD gives the ILLUSION of not having to deal with rejection. But heres the conundrum; after swiping right on thousands of cute women and getting

no likes ,matches ,conversations and especially no dates and even more specifically no second dates and /or sex / relationships

it dawns down on a man that he's been rejected by ALL women who he swiped right on! 3786 rejections ...ouch!! While we do understand that women get exposed to (high value) men they would never be able to meet up untill a few ywars ago, simultaneously men are exposed to being rejected THOUSANDS of times in a short time span. We never talk about how OLD can kill a man's self esteem while he doesn't even leave his house! He might've been rejected more often than his previous four grandfathers together!

The "world " ,the dating scene , women collectively tell this man he is NOT attractive enough to even dip their toes into the the water and see what's he about!

So what's a man to do? A man has to accept that he's living proof of the definition of insanity because he keeps doing what he did while he expects a different result... he should leave OLD, level the F up and come back stronger !

I dont believe that a different sentence structure in his bio will change anything. Match.com.wants to milk him financially. He's a pay pig for the shareholders .

Eventually, I might go to a skilled photographer and see if it makes a difference, but that time isn't now. Like gamisch says, it subconsciously gets discouraging to keep swiping without any attention. Meanwhile, even getting rejected 10 times in real life is very unlikely.

Today I will try going for 10 approaches. Will I manage this? Probably not honestly. My mental state reaches its critical point at around 4 approaches in a single day currently. After that, I need to rest for two days on top of it.

But I will try anyway. I read this from BPH in another thread recently:

The way I got good at this was cold approaching any woman I found attractive and using canned pick-up lines until I no longer feared rejection. Some people can do that; others might be discouraged by such a massive feedback loop of failure before any success.

But if you can stick it out, it proved incredibly effective for my development. Because I didn't have role models, mentors, popular friends, etc. I had to figure it out myself.

My first attempt of the day is typically a brutal burn, but I often get rapidly better on every following attempt made on the same day. Despite that, I'm struggling hard to not get discouraged. Just like BPH explains it.

I will aim to do the same as he did, pushing through it.

 

[Cheeky_James]

The difference between you and dude is you seem WAY more aloof and way less outcome dependent.

Again, we've already concluded that his looks ain't the problem..its his VIBE.

Life is a b1tch. Its difficult to put in words how the world can punish or reward a man for his vibe/ aura.

I would be a terrible dating coach, because i would tell 90% of my clients to forget about women for at least 18 to 24 months. I would tell my clients to STOP depending on women to be motivated but to rather find intrinsic motivation to become the best version you could ever be. Make money, be strong (physically, spirituality and mentally) and love thy self more than anything else. Find a goal larger than life.

Simultaneously I would be living proof that when you do so you will get better results...

Eventually, I might go to a skilled photographer and see if it makes a difference, but that time isn't now. Like gamisch says, it subconsciously gets discouraging to keep swiping without any attention. Meanwhile, even getting rejected 10 times in real life is very unlikely.

Today I will try going for 10 approaches. Will I manage this? Probably not honestly. My mental state reaches its critical point at around 4 approaches in a single day currently. After that, I need to rest for two days on top of it.

But I will try anyway. I read this from BPH in another thread recently:



My first attempt of the day is typically a brutal burn, but I often get rapidly better on every following attempt made on the same day. Despite that, I'm struggling hard to not get discouraged. Just like BPH explains it.

I will aim to do the same as he did, pushing through it.

thats interesting about BPH.. as a lot of this forum will bash canned lines and routines , and advise to NOT do that,
even BPH himself has told me “ just have a normal conversation bro!” lol.
I’m sure he learned the mechanics of convo and smoothed out his convo with experienced using canned lines and routines lol. To arrive to his new “ normal” conversation w women.
They are training wheels to me. I did it the exact same way myself a decade ago. And arrived at the same place. My ‘normal’ conversairon is a mix of stuff and a few canned lines in there also used regularly.

 

[Identikit_Radiohead]

To answer your question ; I'm from Europe.

Women here are more fit by default. But seriously; now I've been polite enough to answer your question please return the favor and answer mine;

1.Do you think those women youve posted are 5,s?

2. Do you think you would be able to seduce said women or would they ignore and /or reject you?

The problem with your way of rating women; its not realistic. It might be fun and games when you're behind your screen watching the pronhub or instagram models, but its not rooted in reality. A 5 ( to 6, which means right down the middle of the scale) basically means a " normal "looking woman. Make up , weight-loss, right clothes and she goes UP two points.

A 3 or lower would be a woman with a significant deficiency/error. A fat woman in a wheelchair. Old bald woman. A woman who's on crack or meth and sleeps on the street.

 

[Cheeky_James]

The difference between you and dude is you seem WAY more aloof and way less outcome dependent.

Again, we've already concluded that his looks ain't the problem..its his VIBE.

Life is a b1tch. Its difficult to put in words how the world can punish or reward a man for his vibe/ aura.

I would be a terrible dating coach, because i would tell 90% of my clients to forget about women for at least 18 to 24 months. I would tell my clients to STOP depending on women to be motivated but to rather find intrinsic motivation to become the best version you could ever be. Make money, be strong (physically, spirituality and mentally) and love thy self more than anything else. Find a goal larger than life.

Simultaneously I would be living proof that when you do so you will get better results...

I think I may go into app /profile coaching as a side hustle lol. The market demand must be huge
$$$$$ baby ,yeah!

Catching this guys “vibe” via his profile is 100% fixable. As it’s just marketing. He may not be a lame guy IRL, just clueless and trying to play cutesy NiceGuy angles in the profile , trying to appeal to girl-next-door types of women.
That shot of him in his apron cooking /baking for example …. Vomit!
I reckon I could help this dude idk. I must contact him and hustle up some money

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[Cheeky_James]

this guy is a sales man bro. Don’t watch his videos. Looksmaxxers are the new PUAs.

 

[Identikit_Radiohead]

this guy is a sales man bro. Don’t watch his videos. Looksmaxxers are the new PUAs.

I'm just tired man of guys like @Gamisch who rate healthy weight average women as "unobtainable" or "hot" (he rated this average looking woman below as HOT; he even said the vast majority of men wouldn't even get a "sniff" of such women's panties). Simping to Mids Is part of the problem.

Excuse me bro, but in what f'ing Country is this an Elite tier looking woman?

 

[Gamisch]

I'm just tired man of guys like @Gamisch who rate healthy weight average women as "unobtainable" or "hot" (he rated this average looking woman below as HOT; he even said the vast majority of men wouldn't even get a "sniff" of such women's panties). Simping to Mids Is part of the problem.

Excuse me bro, but in what f'ing Country is this an Elite tier looking woman?

Yet YOU the one who keeps ducking my questions or answer then with videos from Incel TV.

Now let's keep this civilised and let's agree like gentlemen and not like angry women on their period shall we?

I say that the woman you've posted isn't " that bad", not bad at all. I would definitely be happy to rearrange her guts. So what, you wanna argue my taste? On top of that my taste is rooted in reality. This woman, dressed to kill with the right make up will be a fine woman. She's a professional athlete so her body will be on point.

And I'll repeat; most men won't get a sniff from that woman. She can go on Tinder and have 100+ likes within a couple of days. You would instantly be swiped left, wouldn't not even register on her radar. Welcome to REALITY.

You come across as extremely angry. What's up bro? When was the last times a womam sat on all fours and let you relieve some stress???? We are here to discuss SLEEPING with women. When was the last tike you've slept with a woman as I NEVER hear you talk about that shyte..

 

[Gamisch]

this guy is a sales man bro. Don’t watch his videos. Looksmaxxers are the new PUAs.

Its okay.

I've been on countless scuffles with incels on the forum. The pattern is always the same; they project their anger towards me, I verbally shut then down and then they disappear for good.

This dude has literally ZERO contributions regarding actually sleeping with women. Look up his post history. Its mostly incel- esqeu complaints about boohoo women boohoo the game is rigged.

I have a solid philosophy regarding my trajectory in life and deal with submissive women only whose day is shyte if I don't respond. And I dont care about leaving then neither.

 

[Cheeky_James]

@Gamisch

hmmm yes Aitana Bonmati ,a 28 year old . super fit professional footballer that plays for FC Barcelona and the Spanish national team…

could she possibly be elite and unobtainable for some 48 yo below-average looking dude..?

And is she rated a 5/10 smv woman?

hmmmm…
it’s a hard one !