sevbucmash
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Ever notice how this is all around you? Betas are claiming space all the time. True men with powerful presence, never claim space.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Betas claiming space
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Who thinks about this kind of stuff? 
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RIP, Mr. Riehele
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Yeah he just died a few days ago.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
zekko
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I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily. But one of the most common ways to display alpha energy is to take up space, according to most PUA material.
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@zekko Look at vehicle traffic, truck drivers specifically. They claim space by accelerating, and braking and not letting anyone maneuver. If you manage to outsmart them, they absolutely will honk, show finger, go around you and brake check. Don't sound alpha to me. Sounds immature and beta, doesn't it. Big F-150's and chevy's that alpha males suppose to drive. Beta AF!
Another example. People at gas stations. Absolutely claiming space by taking longer than necessary. Some manage to fuel up on the other side, with hose going over the car. That's not alpha. That's 100% beta. That's 100% socially awkward.
People at grocery stores and walmarts claiming space all the time by positioning and racing to the checkout, etc.
Once you understand what to look for, you see this beta behavior all over. You are able to separate not only true alphas from betas, but adequate people from trouble makers, because this claiming space behavior also comes from women.
Another example. People at gas stations. Absolutely claiming space by taking longer than necessary. Some manage to fuel up on the other side, with hose going over the car. That's not alpha. That's 100% beta. That's 100% socially awkward.
People at grocery stores and walmarts claiming space all the time by positioning and racing to the checkout, etc.
Once you understand what to look for, you see this beta behavior all over. You are able to separate not only true alphas from betas, but adequate people from trouble makers, because this claiming space behavior also comes from women.
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Once a man is so hyper focused on getting p00sy while getting none, he will desperately grab everything to "increase " his smv.Who thinks about this kind of stuff?
I noticed that too, but it doesn't really phase me most of the time. I plan my day in a way that accounts for people wasting my time. Especially in traffic. I mentally tagged some areas as "street of retards" and "IQ-test road crossing." Sounds silly, but helps you to chill out if people practically stop in the middle of the road.
I make it a point to almost never honk or flash headlights.
What you describe, I'm noticing more in a psychological way. Not sure if native speakers use the idiom, but betas don't give you face. You try to help, next thing you know is that they are trying to mess with you in some way. It doesn't make sense.
My conclusion is to only help betas if I'm absolutely sure the aftermath won't bother me. It honestly seems like doing good things to betas is the same as doing bad things to alphas. Both won't end well unless you are prepared sufficiently.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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You're describing jerk behavior, but then a lot of PUA material maintains that women are attracted to jerks. At least short term.
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Women are attracted to betas that demonstrate a clear beta behavior? None sense.
It's a line between normalcy and weirdness, I noticed. This weird anti-social behavior of claiming space VS. just being normal.
Person can claim space in many different ways, it's not necessarily about space, it's about asserting dominance, mind you, in situations where asserting dominance is not called for, and mind in a way that is 100% beta and anti-social.
Public space, an elevator for example, a bench, gym, person playing loud music or watching tiktok loud, clearly annoying everyone around them. That's anti-social dominant behavior. NO. This behavior is not coming from an alpha male or female asserting dominance. It almost certainly is coming for a low self esteem chihuahua-like person, who is an anti-social beta at its core with lots of social anxieties and not socially tuned.
Call it jerk, call it *******, I call it claiming space. It's beta. It is not attractive. It's not getting you women. It's not getting you friends.
It's a line between normalcy and weirdness, I noticed. This weird anti-social behavior of claiming space VS. just being normal.
Person can claim space in many different ways, it's not necessarily about space, it's about asserting dominance, mind you, in situations where asserting dominance is not called for, and mind in a way that is 100% beta and anti-social.
Public space, an elevator for example, a bench, gym, person playing loud music or watching tiktok loud, clearly annoying everyone around them. That's anti-social dominant behavior. NO. This behavior is not coming from an alpha male or female asserting dominance. It almost certainly is coming for a low self esteem chihuahua-like person, who is an anti-social beta at its core with lots of social anxieties and not socially tuned.
Call it jerk, call it *******, I call it claiming space. It's beta. It is not attractive. It's not getting you women. It's not getting you friends.