"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I gave this some time before I would make this thread. But there's a decadence going on here in the west, especially in the US, where women are just not clicking with guys anymore nor letting pick up happen. In my city, for instance, not only is there little interaction between the two sexes, but even at night, out at bars or clubs, the women don't even let themselves get at least flirted with. They'll talk for a bit, then go off. This has happened so much that I'm seeing a decadence in male and female sexuality. I traveled to a big event in Atlanta [not my home city], where all types of people from different industries were mingling, and even there, that same thing was happening. People stuck to the people they knew, there were talking, but nothing that looked like two strangers vibing and maybe finding some fun.

What I do notice of course is that the advantage is still on the female side. Men are so desperate out here that I am seeing muscular guys getting with some very average women. Yes, couples do exist and it's not like that is not happening, but being out in public seems more like a viewing window rather than the organic social pool that it was before. It's a contrast compared to before 2010 where there was at least some attempt.

I blame not only social media and the dating apps, but I blame society at large for shaming all men with movements like MeToo and all this feminist boogeyman crying that happens on all forms of entertainment. It has made men afraid and at the same time made women cautious but entitled. So if you're not getting results, I can't blame you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
It was when the world openly did coke at the club. But then you end up like Cosby years later being framed for date rape when that was literally her intention to have sex.
 

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto
There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
 
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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
You came into this thread and said...

I live in a city where it’s the complete opposite.
We're simply asking you to explain instead of making some weird excuse that we're going to be biased. This is a discussion not reddit.
 

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
Orlando IMO is the definition of either being rich or ghetto as the only real predictable way of getting laid. I think its literally the sugar baby capital of the US. I saw FAMOUS pua's get BLOWN out like crazy over there.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
I mean, everything is subjective anyway, we're not literally conducting research, just sharing patterns we've observed. Of course there are all kinds of in between gray areas.
 

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There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
Guys like Andrew Tate do well in places like Miami for a reason. He's basically semi-organized-crime light. Or at least he portrays it very well + whether or not he got framed simply adds to the image. American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash. thats why i left the country, my mentality is "you should not adapt to an environment if the adaptation will actually weaken you AKA don't wanna become ghetto and aint gonna spend 20 years trying to get rich so i could finally enjoy these brainless basics"
 

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That's the result of giving women all the decision power in sex. They minmax to what gets their feelings going the most instead of thinking long term.
 

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American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash
Throughout human history, fortune hasn't favored wimps. Sad fact is, here in The Anglosphere, we're living through an era in which pretending to be more fragile than one really is celebrated in mainstream culture... In THAT societal atmosphere, full-time criminals appear heroic

This isn't the first time in living memory such a thing happened. Gangsta Rap and Nu Metal were, in part, a middle finger to the the more emo way of living encouraged by Grunge and Adult Contemporary in the early 90s
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Guys like Andrew Tate do well in places like Miami for a reason. He's basically semi-organized-crime light. Or at least he portrays it very well + whether or not he got framed simply adds to the image
It's not hard to see the allure of a man who's affiliated with that life
, when we compare him to the sort of fella who holds multiple PHDs/is "stable", yet persists in writing whole books laden with sentences such as: "The point that the argument misses is that although natural selection involves incremental steps that enhance functioning, the enhancements do not have to be an existing module" https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-gift-of-language

In the short term, the former man's communication style is infinitely more intelligible, thus rendering him far easier and more enjoyable company
 
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I vibe with strangers all the time. And if I don't, I'm in the wrong spot. Full stop. I've had the same experiences in states some would consider polar opposites. Standing out and not looking like everyone else can work in your favor in the right setting.
 

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Orlando IMO is the definition of either being rich or ghetto as the only real predictable way of getting laid. I think its literally the sugar baby capital of the US. I saw FAMOUS pua's get BLOWN out like crazy over there.
 

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Literally just back in europe from 2 weeks in the US.

At a bar in Nashville early hours a cute little blond came right up to me started a conversation, held onto my hand a made out with me infront her entire friend group.

At a music festival in kentucky the next week a 21 year old came right up to me telling me I was handsome. She was a little buzzed but man American women are so forward.

Not sure what OP is doing because I never approach a single woman on my trip (it wasnt my purpose) but me and my buddy got approach quiet a bit
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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