"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I gave this some time before I would make this thread. But there's a decadence going on here in the west, especially in the US, where women are just not clicking with guys anymore nor letting pick up happen. In my city, for instance, not only is there little interaction between the two sexes, but even at night, out at bars or clubs, the women don't even let themselves get at least flirted with. They'll talk for a bit, then go off. This has happened so much that I'm seeing a decadence in male and female sexuality. I traveled to a big event in Atlanta [not my home city], where all types of people from different industries were mingling, and even there, that same thing was happening. People stuck to the people they knew, there were talking, but nothing that looked like two strangers vibing and maybe finding some fun.

What I do notice of course is that the advantage is still on the female side. Men are so desperate out here that I am seeing muscular guys getting with some very average women. Yes, couples do exist and it's not like that is not happening, but being out in public seems more like a viewing window rather than the organic social pool that it was before. It's a contrast compared to before 2010 where there was at least some attempt.

I blame not only social media and the dating apps, but I blame society at large for shaming all men with movements like MeToo and all this feminist boogeyman crying that happens on all forms of entertainment. It has made men afraid and at the same time made women cautious but entitled. So if you're not getting results, I can't blame you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
It was when the world openly did coke at the club. But then you end up like Cosby years later being framed for date rape when that was literally her intention to have sex.
 

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto
There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
 
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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
You came into this thread and said...

I live in a city where it’s the complete opposite.
We're simply asking you to explain instead of making some weird excuse that we're going to be biased. This is a discussion not reddit.
 

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
Orlando IMO is the definition of either being rich or ghetto as the only real predictable way of getting laid. I think its literally the sugar baby capital of the US. I saw FAMOUS pua's get BLOWN out like crazy over there.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
I mean, everything is subjective anyway, we're not literally conducting research, just sharing patterns we've observed. Of course there are all kinds of in between gray areas.
 

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There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
Guys like Andrew Tate do well in places like Miami for a reason. He's basically semi-organized-crime light. Or at least he portrays it very well + whether or not he got framed simply adds to the image. American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash. thats why i left the country, my mentality is "you should not adapt to an environment if the adaptation will actually weaken you AKA don't wanna become ghetto and aint gonna spend 20 years trying to get rich so i could finally enjoy these brainless basics"
 

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That's the result of giving women all the decision power in sex. They minmax to what gets their feelings going the most instead of thinking long term.
 

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American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash
Throughout human history, fortune hasn't favored wimps. Sad fact is, here in The Anglosphere, we're living through an era in which pretending to be more fragile than one really is celebrated in mainstream culture... In THAT societal atmosphere, full-time criminals appear heroic

This isn't the first time in living memory such a thing happened. Gangsta Rap and Nu Metal were, in part, a middle finger to the the more emo way of living encouraged by Grunge and Adult Contemporary in the early 90s
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Guys like Andrew Tate do well in places like Miami for a reason. He's basically semi-organized-crime light. Or at least he portrays it very well + whether or not he got framed simply adds to the image
It's not hard to see the allure of a man who's affiliated with that life
, when we compare him to the sort of fella who holds multiple PHDs/is "stable", yet persists in writing whole books laden with sentences such as: "The point that the argument misses is that although natural selection involves incremental steps that enhance functioning, the enhancements do not have to be an existing module" https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-gift-of-language

In the short term, the former man's communication style is infinitely more intelligible, thus rendering him far easier and more enjoyable company
 
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I vibe with strangers all the time. And if I don't, I'm in the wrong spot. Full stop. I've had the same experiences in states some would consider polar opposites. Standing out and not looking like everyone else can work in your favor in the right setting.
 

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Orlando IMO is the definition of either being rich or ghetto as the only real predictable way of getting laid. I think its literally the sugar baby capital of the US. I saw FAMOUS pua's get BLOWN out like crazy over there.
 

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Literally just back in europe from 2 weeks in the US.

At a bar in Nashville early hours a cute little blond came right up to me started a conversation, held onto my hand a made out with me infront her entire friend group.

At a music festival in kentucky the next week a 21 year old came right up to me telling me I was handsome. She was a little buzzed but man American women are so forward.

Not sure what OP is doing because I never approach a single woman on my trip (it wasnt my purpose) but me and my buddy got approach quiet a bit
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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