The "Secret" to Seducing Lots of Women

[BPH]

Didn't you say in the original post that you made very little money and lived with your parents?

Again, no offence, but you sound like a typical American Millennial or Gen Z-er who wants a vanity job like modelling, influencing or coaching, instead of a real career. Most of them end up working at Starbucks.

If your definition of a "real career" is working for somebody else, then no, I don't want a "real career".

 

[Gamisch]

Kinda like this?





To get really good at anything, one has to have a strong enough "why" to keep them going through setbacks and hardships. If someone's "why" is external or superficial, then they'll get burnt out and easily deterred by the first roadblock between where they are now and their definition of a successful outcome.

The main takeaway is that excellence in a subject requires being passionate about that subject.



I didn't. I was such a late bloomer that throughout middle school and into early high school, my peers thought I was gay. I was bullied and became so avoidant that I'd be nauseous all throughout the day, and would excuse myself for the majority of my classes to go to the bathroom and just not return.

It wasn't until I transferred schools that I was able to reinvent myself and focus on what I did want, rather than being plagued by what I didn't want.



It's the key if you want to be with a LOT of women. It is not necessary if you want to be with SOME women.

Just like going to the gym isn't a necessity if you want to be healthy. But it is a necessity if you want to be a bodybuilder.



And I know you're the type to discredit what I say about dating because I don't have my financial situation figured out, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I'll provide some additional context...I don't take women out to dinner dates - that is something I do with women I'm serious about, and may be a once-in-a-while thing I'll do with someone I'm actively f***ing. 9.9 times out of 10, we're grabbing drinks somewhere low-key, like last night I went on a date (went really well, need to write a new report) where we got drinks, then went to her place. That cost $78, with the only additional cost being the gas to drive there. Plus, remember, about half the time I'm meeting these women while out, in which case, there is no date. I will say that I have done the hotel thing, I think 3 times in my life, but that is by no means the norm.

Read @Glassguy post about his "Algorithm" I think it was. I basically do that.



You don't have to believe in it, it's not you who is doing it. What I will say is that it's made me more money than any of my previous attempts at business so far. You know what I think the difference is? I'm really f***ing good at this, whereas with everything else I had to become "good enough", which wasn't enough.



Haha I'm not, but I found that funny to read for the first time. I'd never seen the movie you're referencing, but I do upload content pretty regularly, most of which I'm just talking to the camera. They're not scripted, and I just give my thoughts on particular subjects, so that might give you a better idea of my "persona".

Nah I won't discredit what you say. But its quite the statement to present the KEY to anything.

Im just saying that at some point you'll see that the game gets repetitive, and to use the gym analogy; unlike the gym being healthy, dealing with women can literally be hazardous as you increase the chance of getting a REAL crazy one ( one dude just made a thread that he's being blackmailed by a woman just to name one example). Pregnancy, false allegations, ex boyfriend, STI ect. Million ways to get in trouble.

So imo at some point youll have to take one step back to make two ,three steps forward in life. Maybe you wanna hit 200 and get a break...at some point you have nothing more to prove.

It's ofcourse a personal matter ,but to me personally at some point I felt like I was wasting too much money and time on women while I simultaneously had nothing to show for in life as I ( and my kids) got older.

I also kinda agree and disagree that "love for the game " will help a man who doesn't get positive responses from women, although LOVE for the game might inspire a man to do better and get more " bird seed" to attract women.

 

[Plinco]

I think Ayn Rand says it really well, I'll quote her here

Sex is a physical capacity, but its exercise is determined by man's mind—by his choice of values, held consciously or subconsciously. To a rational man, sex is an expression of self-esteem—a celebration of himself and of existence. To the man who lacks self-esteem, sex is an attempt to fake it, to acquire its momentary illusion.


Romantic love, in the full sense of the term, is an emotion possible only to the man (or woman) of unbreached self-esteem: it is his response to his own highest values in the person of another—an integrated response of mind and body, of love and sexual desire. Such a man (or woman) is incapable of experiencing a sexual desire divorced from spiritual values.



The man who despises himself tries to gain self-esteem from sexual adventures—which can't be done, because sex is not the cause, but an effect and an expression of a man's sense of his own value . . .


The men who think that wealth comes from material resources and has no intellectual root or meaning, are the men who think—for the same reason—that sex is a physical capacity which functions independently of one's mind, choice or code of values. They think that your body creates a desire and makes a choice for you just about in some such way as if iron ore transformed itself into railroad rails of its own volition. Love is blind, they say; sex is impervious to reason and mocks the power of all philosophers. But, in fact, a man's sexual choice is the result and the sum of his fundamental convictions. Tell me what a man finds sexually attractive and I will tell you his entire philosophy of life. Show me the woman he sleeps with and I will tell you his valuation of himself. No matter what corruption he's taught about the virtue of selflessness, sex is the most profoundly selfish of all acts, an act which he cannot perform for any motive but his own enjoyment—just try to think of performing it in a spirit of selfless charity!—an act which is not possible in self-abasement, only in self-exaltation, only in the confidence of being desired and being worthy of desire. It is an act that forces him to stand naked in spirit, as well as in body, and to accept his real ego as his standard of value. He will always be attracted to the woman who reflects his deepest vision of himself, the woman whose surrender permits him to experience—or to fake—a sense of self-esteem . . . . Love is our response to our highest values—and can be nothing else.
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To this I would say that you cannot love a woman if you don't love yourself. I think the secret to seduction is having a good self-esteem.

 

[kavi]

No offense but it sounds like you are just 'one of those guys' who gets laid a lot as todays women are hoes they like to sleep around and have casual sex usually woth low class and low quality guys and it sounds you are just one of those guys profiting from this borken system.

Females like to have short term relaitonships with low class guys they wouldnt be long term with and it just sounds you are one og those guys benefitting from 'female dating strategy'.

Then coming here bragging but I dont think you know anything about game.

 

[kavi]

You are not good at anything but females are just picking you for short terms sex this is all part of female dating strategy and this alwready tells me you are a low quality low iq guy and it completely comes off in your posts there is no game knowledge there,

 

[kavi]

As I've been saying these days lots of women like short term flings and casual fun its a consquence of the broken marketplace and a few boys would benefit from that ie ****boys and you are just one of them, you are the girls best friend the beta male they use to hoe around hence you have a plethora of short term relationships and you say you love women then how come you dont have any long term relationships discussed here.

This is all bs these are the guys women use to bring the Game into disrepute.

 

[kavi]

Because you are low value fun 'gay' type of guy women are ok to have casual relatinons with you but any high value guy women will try to lock him down long term and will give him stress and complex female game and try to get their nails into him but females are just giving you an easy time for casual sex not becuase of your game but their game but you are allowing it to boost your ego but you are just a pawn in their game if you were a high value guy this wouldnt be happening and how come all these girls are just happy to see you go if you are such a high vaue guy.

 

[Plinco]

Because you are low value fun 'gay' type of guy women are ok to have casual relatinons with you but any high value guy women will try to lock him down long term and will give him stress and complex female game and try to get their nails into him but females are just giving you an easy time for casual sex not becuase of your game but their game but you are allowing it to boost your ego but you are just a pawn in their game if you were a high value guy this wouldnt be happening and how come all these girls are just happy to see you go if you are such a high vaue guy.

You're making a lot of assumptions here

 

[CornbreadFed]

If your definition of a "real career" is working for somebody else, then no, I don't want a "real career".

it sucks

 

[Manure Spherian]

Highly disturbing and effeminate.

 

[BPH]

No offense but it sounds like you are just 'one of those guys' who gets laid a lot as todays women are hoes they like to sleep around and have casual sex usually woth low class and low quality guys and it sounds you are just one of those guys profiting from this borken system.

Females like to have short term relaitonships with low class guys they wouldnt be long term with and it just sounds you are one og those guys benefitting from 'female dating strategy'.

Then coming here bragging but I dont think you know anything about game.

You are not good at anything but females are just picking you for short terms sex this is all part of female dating strategy and this alwready tells me you are a low quality low iq guy and it completely comes off in your posts there is no game knowledge there,

As I've been saying these days lots of women like short term flings and casual fun its a consquence of the broken marketplace and a few boys would benefit from that ie ****boys and you are just one of them, you are the girls best friend the beta male they use to hoe around hence you have a plethora of short term relationships and you say you love women then how come you dont have any long term relationships discussed here.

This is all bs these are the guys women use to bring the Game into disrepute.

Because you are low value fun 'gay' type of guy women are ok to have casual relatinons with you but any high value guy women will try to lock him down long term and will give him stress and complex female game and try to get their nails into him but females are just giving you an easy time for casual sex not becuase of your game but their game but you are allowing it to boost your ego but you are just a pawn in their game if you were a high value guy this wouldnt be happening and how come all these girls are just happy to see you go if you are such a high vaue guy.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

I agree that this is, in fact, the key. Women sense they are with a man who is in the moment enjoying her company. Now who on Earth doesn't like that?

I have said around here before that I love men. Just dig them. Men who interact with me feel that warmth, that authenticity, and even if I am not the most attractive in the room.....I often become the most intriguing. Its because of my vibe. Its because of genuine curiosity that I have toward men which creates an openness...and that openness creates a trust very Very VERY quickly.

I've had complete strangers tell me very private things about their relationships (marriages even), ambitions, aspirations, children, beliefs, etc.

I also listen well and am non-judgemental. But the foundation of everything is that I genuinely adore men. They can FEEL this, even if only for a short interaction.

So yes I think this is the "key" if you will. Genuine love of anything arises first from self love/self esteem, and out of a grateful heart. It radiates from within you.

Now. There are still better and worse ways of sending a specific text or other process related game mechanics.....but if an interaction is underpinned by a genuine interest in the other person? That takes you a very long way.....and it cannot be faked.

In the same way bitter women complain that there are no good men, bitter men gripe endlessly about women.

Bitterness is one of the very most anti-seductive things in person. It creates energy that is utterly repulsive.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Ah yes, that old ‘secret’ rings a bell …did you gather that chestnut from this fellow ?

The Alabaster Girl by Zan Perrion on Instagram: "A man who loves women is loved by women. This is a law of the universe. Let me say that again: A man who loves women is loved by women. This is a motif that is embroidered upon everything he says and everything he does. Therein lies the power. And the difference. All radiance, all confidence, all charisma that these men possess is a natural result of their deep, abiding, and thoroughly irrepressible love for women. And women, in turn, love these men through all the days and nights of their years. The Alabaster Girl, Page 14 by @zanperrion If you found the talk valuable or meaningful, feel free to follow @thealabastergirl and get your free signed book today! .⁣ .⁣ .⁣ .⁣ .⁣ #empathy #relationshipgoals #romance #feelings #relationshipcoach #datingadvice #girlfriend #breakup #relationshipquotes #relationshiprules #relationshiptips #soulmate #relationshipadvice #relationshipmeme #boyfriend #single #marriageadvice #zanperrion #arsamorata #thealabastergirl #femininebeauty #masculinebeauty #timeless #romance #beautiful #love #amor #amour #heart #soul"

thealabastergirl on December 17, 2024: "A man who loves women is loved by women. This is a law of the universe. Let me say that again: A man who loves women is loved by women. This is a motif that is embroidered upon everything he says and everything he does. Therein lies the power. And...

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“A man who loves women, is loved by women”

Is that really true tho? Hmmm..yeah kinda

But that doesn’t necessarily translate into ‘getting laid a lot ‘per se.

moreso for that it’s the reverse of that statement which is a truism.

“a man who is loved by women, loves women”

and they love him primarily cos he is so cute and also so fun. (Fun= charming, sexy, yada yada)

so the real secret(s) be dis
-be cute and appealing to the eye of the female
- be a charming cliity-teaser in behaviour with the female(s).

I think OP you have both covered at this point,
The first bit is pretty important tho for getting the ‘Lots’ of.

 

[retardedautist2020]

Because you are low value fun 'gay' type of guy women are ok to have casual relatinons with you but any high value guy women will try to lock him down long term and will give him stress and complex female game and try to get their nails into him but females are just giving you an easy time for casual sex not becuase of your game but their game but you are allowing it to boost your ego but you are just a pawn in their game if you were a high value guy this wouldnt be happening and how come all these girls are just happy to see you go if you are such a high vaue guy.

Shut up nerd. No one walks around talking this way in real life. “High value guy, high value woman.” These are words uttered all the time on YouTube manosphere podcasts. This is not how real life works.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Advice from the old lady:

I agree that this is, in fact, the key. Women sense they are with a man who is in the moment enjoying her company. Now who on Earth doesn't like that?

I have said around here before that I love men. Just dig them. Men who interact with me feel that warmth, that authenticity, and even if I am not the most attractive in the room.....I often become the most intriguing. Its because of my vibe. Its because of genuine curiosity that I have toward men which creates an openness...and that openness creates a trust very Very VERY quickly.

I've had complete strangers tell me very private things about their relationships (marriages even), ambitions, aspirations, children, beliefs, etc.

I also listen well and am non-judgemental. But the foundation of everything is that I genuinely adore men. They can FEEL this, even if only for a short interaction.

So yes I think this is the "key" if you will. Genuine love of anything arises first from self love/self esteem, and out of a grateful heart. It radiates from within you.

Now. There are still better and worse ways of sending a specific text or other process related game mechanics.....but if an interaction is underpinned by a genuine interest in the other person? That takes you a very long way.....and it cannot be faked.

In the same way bitter women complain that there are no good men, bitter men gripe endlessly about women.

Bitterness is one of the very most anti-seductive things in person. It creates energy that is utterly repulsive.

@BeEnamored

 

[nicksaiz65]

I don't think passion is required for competence, but I do think it's required for excellence.

That’s fair, I could see that

 

[nicksaiz65]

Because you are low value fun 'gay' type of guy women are ok to have casual relatinons with you but any high value guy women will try to lock him down long term and will give him stress and complex female game and try to get their nails into him but females are just giving you an easy time for casual sex not becuase of your game but their game but you are allowing it to boost your ego but you are just a pawn in their game if you were a high value guy this wouldnt be happening and how come all these girls are just happy to see you go if you are such a high vaue guy.

Glad to see I can still see some entertaining messages when I log on here

 

[Cheeky_James]

Shut up nerd. No one walks around talking this way in real life. “High value guy, high value woman.” These are words uttered all the time on YouTube manosphere podcasts. This is not how real life works.

what? That is exactly how real life works .. the rich and famous don’t cavort with the poor and average.

Kavi makes some salient points.
If any chick thinks a guy is potential boyfriend material, she aint going to put out on the same night and risk the idea she’s a Slvt.
She’ll try save it for 3 + dates to try hook and then reel him in.

Typically after the sex it doesn’t go anywhere with the chickies for the OP afaik. Cos they put out , They had tipsy fun and a dirty stop out. he’s then Mr Fun Guy/ ONS guy and that’s the mental compartment he’s stuck in.

 

[Sega Genesis]

any chick thinks a guy is potential boyfriend material, she aint going to put out on the same night and risk the idea she’s a Slvt.

It's not always so black and white and there are always exceptions... but there is truth to this^^.

To add (in female speak) because she doesn't want the connection to become purely physical, she wants to build trust or she fears getting hurt if she becomes attached too quickly.

On the other hand:

If she finds a man physically attractive but doesn't feel a strong emotional connection or doesn't envision a relationship with him, she may feel less pressure about the outcome and be more willing to have a casual sexual encounter/ONS because there is little emotional investment at stake.

Which works well for @BPH as admittedly HE isn't seeking a relationship with these gals either nor does he feel a strong emotional connection with them. My take from what he's posted in his lay reports.

It's fun, sexy, they both get their sexual needs met and the validation they seek. No one gets hurt - win win for both.

 

[BPH]

It's not always so black and white and there are exceptions... but there is truth to this^^.

To add (in female speak) because she doesn't want the connection to become purely physical, she wants to build trust or she fears getting hurt if she becomes attached too quickly.

On the other hand:

If she finds a man physically attractive but doesn't feel a strong emotional connection or doesn't envision a relationship with him, she may feel less pressure about the outcome and be more willing to have a casual sexual encounter/ONS because there is little emotional investment at stake.

Which works well for @BPH as admittedly HE isn't seeking a relationship with these gals either nor does he feel a strong emotional connection with them. My take from what he's posted in his lay reports.

It's fun, sexy, they both get their sexual needs met and the validation they seek. No one gets hurt - win win for both.

he’s then Mr Fun Guy/ ONS guy and that’s the mental compartment he’s stuck in.

Like with what @Sega Genesis just said, I wouldn't say I'm "stuck" here if that's the situation I'm opting into...