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How about c0ckblocking. Lotta the time, it happens. Do I have to defuse the ticking bomb before she gets jealous and interjects? I had a scenario the other day, where I went up to couple of girls on the street, focused on one, and the other friend felt the need to interject and say that she's seeing someone. Wtf? Who asked you? I told her that she can speak for herself, have a good day, and bounced.

That sh!t is annoying. I used to introduce myself to groups but I still ran into the same issue. So lately anytime I deal with c0ckblockers I tell them the girl I'm into can speak for herself, and just walk away.

What I plan on doing now is just ignoring c0ckblockers and continue the interaction if the girl I'm into is clearly into it. If not, peace
Yeah.. this is common. I’m out as we speak and it happened haha.
 

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I thought about this last night...

When it comes to lay reports, we usually have the story of what led to the close, but there's usually not much about what happens afterwards. So, for this and for my 101st I want to describe what the last 2 weeks were like to give some of you guys a realistic perspective of what the aftermath usually looks like from sleeping around.

Following date 2, and the night of sex that came with it, we made tentative plans for a 3rd date where we would get margaritas at a nearby bar and "not have to worry about driving home", with the implication that this time I would spend the night.

She agreed.

Later that week on Thursday I would end up sleeping with my 101st woman who I'd met through matching on Hinge. This girl drunkenly hit me up that night, when I briefly described that I was worried I would have to juggle both women, while preparing an excuse to have to leave early so I could satisfy both women.

That problem solved itself when she decided that she was probably too drunk to see me that night, instead opting for Papa John's and an early bedtime, talking about "next time". I thought "next time" would be Friday night, as she happened to be out at the bar I was going to with my buddy that night - except now she was on her period.

No big deal, I told her that whenever she's up for those margaritas, she just has to let me know.

We text a little back-and-forth throughout the next week. She's still pretty responsive, but nowhere near as invested over text as she was that first week when we were setting up the dates. Whether that's due to waning interest, focusing on her upcoming graduation, or both, I'm unsure.

That next weekend there's another chance meeting with her at the same bar, this time without my friend. Her friends all meet me, we have a couple drinks, enjoy a fun time, and she invites me to leave with her, which I do. We end up having sex once, then she passes out and I spend the night, leaving in the morning after kissing her goodbye and all that.

The next night, same bar, same story, except she can't have me over tonight because she and her friend are leaving early in the morning to go up to visit her family in New York. While it is nice to see her, the fact that she's been at this bar now every time that I've been at it has stopped me from meeting other women. Additionally, that girl who has a problem with the fact that I'm into younger women is a friend of hers, and she is ALWAYS here now too. Because I would prefer to keep sleeping with this girl for the short time she's around, I don't go around meeting other girls, and she doesn't go around meeting other guys

Same pattern of texting throughout the week, with still no commitment on date 3. I ask if she's free this weekend, and she tells me I probably won't see her because she's going to a semi-formal with some friends.

I'm at the same bar and she and some of her friends from last time show up AGAIN. Turns out, once semi-formal was done, this was their destination. It's her, one of her friends, that friend's boyfriend who I'd met the week prior, and her date - a gay guy (don't worry, I talked to him, he's flaming, I'm not concerned).

She can't have me over tonight because the gay guy is sleeping over in the same bed and she would be flying to Kentucky until next week, but might be able to see me when she comes back Wednesday (at least I think she said Wednesday, hard to remember).

So I let that go, enjoy the night with them until everything closes down, and that's about it. My thought is that maybe she's losing interest because she's seeing me too often - damn near every time I go out, since it's at the same bar where I get hooked up by the bartenders. It's hard to tell because she's often bratty and sarcastic, but I don't know if there's any truth to that thought, or if she's just busy saying bye to her friends, getting ready for finals, and preparing to move back home.

I figure I'll text her at some point tomorrow asking if she's free later this week (plus I may be occupied anyway, I have a tentative Tuesday drink date with a girl I met last Saturday, but despite putting her number in my phone and making sure she spelled her name right multiple times, has not texted back, so who knows if that's just gonna be a flake).

If she is, great. If she's not, or I get ghosted or something, I'll just tell her it was nice getting to know her for the short time I did.

I'll provide an update for 101 later. Her story will be much shorter, but I'm leaving work here in about 5 minutes, so that will have to wait.
 

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I thought about this last night...

When it comes to lay reports, we usually have the story of what led to the close, but there's usually not much about what happens afterwards. So, for this and for my 101st I want to describe what the last 2 weeks were like to give some of you guys a realistic perspective of what the aftermath usually looks like from sleeping around.

Following date 2, and the night of sex that came with it, we made tentative plans for a 3rd date where we would get margaritas at a nearby bar and "not have to worry about driving home", with the implication that this time I would spend the night.

She agreed.

Later that week on Thursday I would end up sleeping with my 101st woman who I'd met through matching on Hinge. This girl drunkenly hit me up that night, when I briefly described that I was worried I would have to juggle both women, while preparing an excuse to have to leave early so I could satisfy both women.

That problem solved itself when she decided that she was probably too drunk to see me that night, instead opting for Papa John's and an early bedtime, talking about "next time". I thought "next time" would be Friday night, as she happened to be out at the bar I was going to with my buddy that night - except now she was on her period.

No big deal, I told her that whenever she's up for those margaritas, she just has to let me know.

We text a little back-and-forth throughout the next week. She's still pretty responsive, but nowhere near as invested over text as she was that first week when we were setting up the dates. Whether that's due to waning interest, focusing on her upcoming graduation, or both, I'm unsure.

That next weekend there's another chance meeting with her at the same bar, this time without my friend. Her friends all meet me, we have a couple drinks, enjoy a fun time, and she invites me to leave with her, which I do. We end up having sex once, then she passes out and I spend the night, leaving in the morning after kissing her goodbye and all that.

The next night, same bar, same story, except she can't have me over tonight because she and her friend are leaving early in the morning to go up to visit her family in New York. While it is nice to see her, the fact that she's been at this bar now every time that I've been at it has stopped me from meeting other women. Additionally, that girl who has a problem with the fact that I'm into younger women is a friend of hers, and she is ALWAYS here now too. Because I would prefer to keep sleeping with this girl for the short time she's around, I don't go around meeting other girls, and she doesn't go around meeting other guys

Same pattern of texting throughout the week, with still no commitment on date 3. I ask if she's free this weekend, and she tells me I probably won't see her because she's going to a semi-formal with some friends.

I'm at the same bar and she and some of her friends from last time show up AGAIN. Turns out, once semi-formal was done, this was their destination. It's her, one of her friends, that friend's boyfriend who I'd met the week prior, and her date - a gay guy (don't worry, I talked to him, he's flaming, I'm not concerned).

She can't have me over tonight because the gay guy is sleeping over in the same bed and she would be flying to Kentucky until next week, but might be able to see me when she comes back Wednesday (at least I think she said Wednesday, hard to remember).

So I let that go, enjoy the night with them until everything closes down, and that's about it. My thought is that maybe she's losing interest because she's seeing me too often - damn near every time I go out, since it's at the same bar where I get hooked up by the bartenders. It's hard to tell because she's often bratty and sarcastic, but I don't know if there's any truth to that thought, or if she's just busy saying bye to her friends, getting ready for finals, and preparing to move back home.

I figure I'll text her at some point tomorrow asking if she's free later this week (plus I may be occupied anyway, I have a tentative Tuesday drink date with a girl I met last Saturday, but despite putting her number in my phone and making sure she spelled her name right multiple times, has not texted back, so who knows if that's just gonna be a flake).

If she is, great. If she's not, or I get ghosted or something, I'll just tell her it was nice getting to know her for the short time I did.

I'll provide an update for 101 later. Her story will be much shorter, but I'm leaving work here in about 5 minutes, so that will have to wait.
You might be playing with fire here. If she even feels a small sense of relief when you’re not around, it’s probably a sign her interest is fading. Familiarity and overexposure may cause this.

But like everything in life, everything has an ending…
 
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You might be playing with fire here. If she even feels a small sense of relief when you’re not around, it’s probably a sign her interest is fading. Familiarity and overexposure may cause this.

But like everything in life, everything has an ending…
I'm aware, I'd like to see her a few more times, and having somebody to visit if I ever go up to NY to see my brother would be fun.

But I'm also not delusional - she's graduating, is currently taking final exams, pursuing a spot on the dance team for an NBA team, and has established relationships with her friends that I'm sure she cares about much more than me.

On one hand, if she didn't want to see me, she'd probably stop showing up at the only bar she's ever seen me at.

On the other hand, knowing this, if she's going to show up and expects to see me there, why not leave with me?

Either way, I'll text her tomorrow and see what her plans for her last week look like, and if they'd involve me.
 

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I'd like to see her a few more times, and having somebody to visit if I ever go up to NY to see my brother would be fun.

I'm also not delusional - she's graduating, is currently taking final exams, pursuing a spot on the dance team for an NBA team, and has established relationships with her friends that I'm sure she cares about much more than me.
It's tough to start an interaction with a woman in her 2nd semester of senior year of college and have it last for any meaningful length of time. The most realistic scenario is a short term sexual encounter. I think your Early Frame Announcement with this woman was short term sex rather than a longer term sexual interaction.

Many college-formed relationships end when one or both people are graduating. There are 3 scenarios involving dating a female in her senior year of college.

1. Female senior is dating male senior: It's very difficult for 2 graduates to get their first post-college jobs in the same city. When a college senior male dates a college senior female, the breakup happens immediately at graduation when both parties get jobs in distant cities if they are wise. Sometimes, graduating couples try a long distance relationship and that ends up failing because one or both people start having sex with new people in the new post-college city.

2. Female senior dates male underclassman (usually a junior): Dating a male junior is the most realistic. A female senior usually isn't going to date a male freshman or sophomore year. It's possible for a female senior to have short term sex with a freshman-sophomore, but even that would be an uncommon situation. A more serious relationship between a female senior and a male junior could start any time in a woman's senior year and causes a big decision at graduation.

In most situations, the female senior will graduate, take a job in a new city, and move on with her life.

It's possible that she might try long distance with the male for 1 year until she graduates. It's unlikely that she got her first job in the same city as the college. If she did get her first job in the same city as the college, the relationship is likely to continue and often ends before the male graduates. When the woman's first job takes her to a new city or she lacks a job at graduation and has to go live with parents/a parent not in the same city as the college, it puts a lot of strain on the relationship. Long distance happens most often in this scenario.

A less common situation is that the woman takes a menial job (like retail, restaurant, coffee barista) for a year in the college town to see what happens to the relationship during the male's senior year. I know a female who did this. She graduated jobless. Instead of going to her parents' home in a bigger city with more job opportunities, she waited out her boyfriend's senior year with a menial job in the same city as the college. Most people thought she was irrational for doing so. At the time of her graduation, she and her boyfriend only known each other about 2 months and been an official couple about 1 month. That wasn't even the majority of her senior year. This ended up resulting in a multiple year long term relationship for her. I think there is an argument that her irrationality created a positive outcome for her. The rational move for her would have been to end the short term relationship, go to the city where her parents lived, and start her post-college life looking for a job in the city where her parents lived.

3. Female senior dates male not in school living in the city of her college: This is the current situation with @BPH . What the female typically does depends on two factors...
  • The quality of the city where the college is
  • What the male is doing with his post-college life in that city
If the college is located in a decent city for employment and social life, she might have plans to stick around that city. In @BPH 's situation, most college students are not going to want to stick around Wilmington, DE. They are typically going to go to bigger cities in that region (Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, Washington DC). In this case, the woman is going to New York City. I'm guessing she has a job lined up in NYC. She's also planning to audition for next season's Knicks or Nets dance team. Those are big plans that most women are not going to give up, even for a 6'0", fit/muscular man. There are plenty of 6'0"+, fit/muscular men in NYC. If she can get a side gig as a Knicks/Nets dancer, she will have opportunities to meet elite men doing that. Knicks/Nets dancer status will make her very desirable to all men in the city. Women don't do side gigs as pro sports dance team members for the money, it's for the status and the opportunity to meet elite men.

I think most relationships between a female senior and post-college guy in the city of her college end around her graduation. Long distance is less of a possibility here because the man already has a life in that city.
 

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I forgot about her being an elite level dancer (or hot enough with sufficient talent to be hired as a dancer).

Listen. This girl has big ambitious plans in NYC. The reality is that @BPH is simply a Wilmington whistle stop on her rise into the Big Apple. You cannot compete with that as your situation currently stands. Accept this.

However there is another angle. Quit trying to date her or sex her. Seriously do nothing. Otherwise you are too available and that is not a good look. If you see her out, be super cool, super chill. Expect nothing. Have fun. Be "Good Time Charlie", however that develops. Roll with it. However things go, be cool and end on good terms.

But keep her number. Shoot her the occassional text, ring her up once in a while. As a friend. And seriously be a friend, encourage her, take an interest in her life. Here's why....

Who doesn't want a socially proofed friend in NYC? You are already familiar right? So put her in your friend zone. She is a great conduit to pretty girls, successful contacts and good times in NYC. If she makes the dance squad you want to be someone that she knows and is cool with. She will have other beautiful women she knows, and its all good. You touch base, be cool, and you can hang in the posse along the way in NYC. You can meet people thru her.

That is the angle and the play here.
 

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This girl has big ambitious plans in NYC. The reality is that @BPH is simply a Wilmington whistle stop on her rise into the Big Apple.
Everything that you say about the woman is true.

When I think about this situation, I perceive it differently using the same terms and framework that you use.

This woman is a whistle stop on @BPH 's rise into being a elite seducer.

@BPH set a big goal for himself in a post on this forum in 2011. He set a goal to have sex with 100 different women and he made it happen. He has the potential to put up even more impressive notches. He might be able to have sex with more hot college students in the next few years. At the very least, he's going to run his notch count up even higher.

keep her number. Shoot her the occassional text, ring her up once in a while. As a friend. And seriously be a friend, encourage her, take an interest in her life. Here's why....

Who doesn't want a socially proofed friend in NYC? You are already familiar right? So put her in your friend zone. She is a great conduit to pretty girls, successful contacts and good times in NYC. If she makes the dance squad you want to be someone that she knows and is cool with. She will have other beautiful women she knows, and its all good. You touch base, be cool, and you can hang in the posse along the way in NYC. You can meet people thru her.

That is the angle and the play here.
This could be useful. If this woman becomes a Knicks/Nets dancer, she will have other hot friends. He might be able to get introductions.

It's not that far fetched but it's not going to be reality any time soon.
 

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@BPH set a big goal for himself in a post on this forum in 2011. He set a goal to have sex with 100 different women and he made it happen.
I don't want this to be misconstrued as me sleeping with all these women for some ego trip about running up the number, as I do genuinely cringe reading some of my early posts in that journal...but that was 16-year-old high school me.

I just like being single, and I like experiencing multiple attractive women - and I think that's necessary to being successful to this level: you have to genuinely like women.

Some men are spiteful.

Some want to "even the score" for how women might've treated them in the past.

Some do genuinely just want to have a really high number and will take whatever hole they can get.

I just think women are sexy and enjoy the novelty and nuance each one brings.
 

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To much writing and pony hopping for this to be legit. Guys have fairytales too :)
 

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In the future, I will do my best to recount my lays in a format that is believable to you, specifically.
Thank you.
You’re in small town Delaware, making your LR’s seem like you’re from a big city.
You’re ChatGPT if I were to create a romance novel from a wanna-be player

“Because I would prefer to keep sleeping with this girl for the short time she's around, I don't go around meeting other girls, and she doesn't go around meeting other guys

Same pattern of texting throughout the week, with still no commitment on date 3.”

Seriously?
 

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I don't want this to be misconstrued as me sleeping with all these women for some ego trip about running up the number, as I do genuinely cringe reading some of my early posts in that journal...but that was 16-year-old high school me.
That's understandable. 16-20 year olds often say and write cringe content.

I like experiencing multiple attractive women - and I think that's necessary to being successful to this level: you have to genuinely like women.

I just think women are sexy and enjoy the novelty and nuance each one brings.
It's a good mindset.

Women are sexy.

I enjoy the physical aspect of sex a lot. Sex with multiple attractive women in a lifetime is great both physically and mentally.
 
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Thank you.
You’re in small town Delaware, making your LR’s seem like you’re from a big city.
You’re ChatGPT if I were to create a romance novel from a wanna-be player

“Because I would prefer to keep sleeping with this girl for the short time she's around, I don't go around meeting other girls, and she doesn't go around meeting other guys

Same pattern of texting throughout the week, with still no commitment on date 3.”

Seriously?
Just in case you didn't sense the sarcasm, I really don't give a sh** that you don't believe me.

Instead of focusing on the validity of my lays, why don't you go out and get yourself some? Then you can write about it and we can decide whether or not we believe you.
 

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I forgot about her being an elite level dancer (or hot enough with sufficient talent to be hired as a dancer).

Listen. This girl has big ambitious plans in NYC. The reality is that @BPH is simply a Wilmington whistle stop on her rise into the Big Apple. You cannot compete with that as your situation currently stands. Accept this.

However there is another angle. Quit trying to date her or sex her. Seriously do nothing. Otherwise you are too available and that is not a good look. If you see her out, be super cool, super chill. Expect nothing. Have fun. Be "Good Time Charlie", however that develops. Roll with it. However things go, be cool and end on good terms.

But keep her number. Shoot her the occassional text, ring her up once in a while. As a friend. And seriously be a friend, encourage her, take an interest in her life. Here's why....

Who doesn't want a socially proofed friend in NYC? You are already familiar right? So put her in your friend zone. She is a great conduit to pretty girls, successful contacts and good times in NYC. If she makes the dance squad you want to be someone that she knows and is cool with. She will have other beautiful women she knows, and its all good. You touch base, be cool, and you can hang in the posse along the way in NYC. You can meet people thru her.

That is the angle and the play here.
Just today, I saw her post on Instagram that she did make the cut for the Boston Celtics NBA dance team. I texted her, congratulating her, and she thanked me, telling me the next step is to move up to Boston to get started with training camp. I told her if I ever got a good enough excuse to come up there, I'd make sure to say hi.

I didn't get to see her the week of graduation - she told me she was super busy getting ready to graduate and move out, and she wasn't even at the bar any of the nights that weekend.

Unfortunately, it's unlikely I'll see her again if she's all the way up in Boston. I think I've only ever visited once in my life, and I cannot remember why or when it was. I'll miss her. The sarcastic banter was fun, and it was refreshing meeting one of these girls who didn't mind the age gap, even when one of her own friends tried to talk her out of it. I appreciated meeting a girl who could think for herself.
 

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Just today, I saw her post on Instagram that she did make the cut for the Boston Celtics NBA dance team. I texted her, congratulating her, and she thanked me, telling me the next step is to move up to Boston to get started with training camp. I told her if I ever got a good enough excuse to come up there, I'd make sure to say hi.

I didn't get to see her the week of graduation - she told me she was super busy getting ready to graduate and move out, and she wasn't even at the bar any of the nights that weekend.

Unfortunately, it's unlikely I'll see her again if she's all the way up in Boston. I think I've only ever visited once in my life, and I cannot remember why or when it was. I'll miss her. The sarcastic banter was fun, and it was refreshing meeting one of these girls who didn't mind the age gap, even when one of her own friends tried to talk her out of it. I appreciated meeting a girl who could think for herself.
Good luck to anyone who gets with her after she gets alpha widowed by NBA BBC.

But the kicker is you can say "stfu dork, Jayson Tatum got my sloppy seconds" when some NPC on here tells you to move out of the basement.
 

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What do you define as a success? Getting a number? Getting a date? Getting laid? In any case, it's really hard to quantify...on any given night out I'll probably see somewhere between 3 and 5 girls that I find attractive enough to WANT to approach. Usually, at the very least, I'll end up with a phone number.

This girl was the 3rd or 4th I approached that one drunken night when I made the post bi***ing about running into the age issue so much. I got her number, which led to a date, which led to sex, which led to sex again as of last night. By that metric, I'd be sitting at a 25% success rate.

If you include the girls a few weeks prior (the one who invited me to the casino and went cold, and the one who didn't like my answer to the youngest I'd go when it came to women), I'd have a 50% success rate on getting numbers each of those nights, but a 0% success rate on getting a date or laid.

I really have no clue. If I HAD to guess, I'd say my number close rate is probably close to 15%, and of that number, I'd say maybe 1 in every 5 would result in a lay.



Very selective.

First I have to find her attractive, which sounds obvious, but what I'm saying is that I won't really lower my standards just because I want to get laid.

Second, I usually wait just a little bit to get some background info; oh, ok, those are her friends, the guys next to them aren't with her, she looks like she's having fun and isn't "playing mom" for the group, etc. I'll rarely go up to big groups, mixed groups, girls who are painfully sober and there with 1 or 2 friends - because I know what to expect from these interactions, and that they're usually a waste of time.

I will sometimes break my own rules with that, but only really if I believe I won't see her again (on vacation) or am on a time crunch (I'm about to leave or it looks like she's leaving).



Always.

I have not had a single person improve my situation as a wingman beyond providing me a place to bring the girl, and that's only happened maybe twice in my life.

I've had plenty of situations where I'd approach a group or two-set with a friend, hit things off with my girl, then have the interaction fizzle out because the friend didn't like my friend enough to give me alone time with the one I wanted. I once tried to wing with my cousin and approached 2 gorgeous blondes at Seacrets in Ocean City one year. I was really hitting it off with mine, and separated her from her friend and my cousin to go do drinks...the FIRST thing this idiot does is bring his girl back over to mine to tag along with whatever we were doing...needless to say, that interaction didn't last long.

I like going out with my friends, but I absolutely do not rely on them at all when it comes to approaching women. They are idiots. They are not sleeping with attractive women. And they are not sleeping with a lot of women.

I prefer to have my success or failure reliant on me, not them.
Out of all of them, what percentage would you say were from bars, clubs, street, etc.

That would tell us a lot about how important venues are for numbers. 100 is enough to see those kinda patterns
 

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Out of all of them, what percentage would you say were from bars, clubs, street, etc.

That would tell us a lot about how important venues are for numbers. 100 is enough to see those kinda patterns
Assuming you're talking about where I met them initially?

Bars, clubs, or parties would definitely be the highest. Inhibitions are lowered, and women expect to be approached and are more often single. Plus, with it being nighttime, it's more natural for the interaction to lead to the bedroom. I'd say this accounts for probably 50% of my lays.

I'd say next would be dating apps, they probably make up about 25% of my lays. That wasn't always the case, but when COVID forced everybody to spend a lot of time online, they became more mainstream, I feel. Dating apps went through a weird rollercoaster where they started off exclusively as hookup apps, then became mainstream because everybody was stuck inside, and now they're ruled by bots or very unattractive/damaged women.

The next 15% I'd probably attribute to school. Classes, walking to-and-fro on campus, dining halls, etc, have you walking past a lot of potentially beautiful women. Seeing as cold approach has always been my bread and butter, that's led to quite a few positive outcomes.

The remaining 10% would be from chance encounters. Walking along the boardwalk and hitting on girls. Going to the gym and seeing a cutie I haven't seen anywhere else. Sarging through the mall during my early days to meet the girl I'd lose my virginity to. Random moments like that, where I'm just going about my day and decide to make an introduction.
 

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Assuming you're talking about where I met them initially?

Bars, clubs, or parties would definitely be the highest. Inhibitions are lowered, and women expect to be approached and are more often single. Plus, with it being nighttime, it's more natural for the interaction to lead to the bedroom. I'd say this accounts for probably 50% of my lays.

I'd say next would be dating apps, they probably make up about 25% of my lays. That wasn't always the case, but when COVID forced everybody to spend a lot of time online, they became more mainstream, I feel. Dating apps went through a weird rollercoaster where they started off exclusively as hookup apps, then became mainstream because everybody was stuck inside, and now they're ruled by bots or very unattractive/damaged women.

The next 15% I'd probably attribute to school. Classes, walking to-and-fro on campus, dining halls, etc, have you walking past a lot of potentially beautiful women. Seeing as cold approach has always been my bread and butter, that's led to quite a few positive outcomes.

The remaining 10% would be from chance encounters. Walking along the boardwalk and hitting on girls. Going to the gym and seeing a cutie I haven't seen anywhere else. Sarging through the mall during my early days to meet the girl I'd lose my virginity to. Random moments like that, where I'm just going about my day and decide to make an introduction.
Do you go to the bar on weekdays or weekends? I've read that women are more DTF on weekdays versus weekends, but obviously there's much less volume and timing is different. Where I live, the bars are pretty much empty at 10pm on weekdays and get volume at around 6-8pm or so. Weekends are bustling later at night, and there's much more noise and crowds to deal with.


Also, if you did a bit of a guide on bar game, that'd be great. Dealing with friends when you're solo and what not. What the typical interaction looks like and how they go
 
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