"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Do you think the GLP-1 Divorce is a really the case of wifey losing the blubber and wanting to upgrade?

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I was reading this, and it got me interested.
“before surgery I was invisible, but now people are starting to notice me and I get attention from the opposite sex.”
“It can be that the partner undergoing the weight loss has been in a dysfunctional relationship but hasn’t been empowered to break free from it, but after the weight loss they become more empowered and then they end a potentially toxic relationship”
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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This likely isn't even a matter of receiving "upgrades", so much as it is these gals finally having access to the variety all humans crave, once they become even mildly more fetching than they were prior

Same way chances of a man straying outside of an LTR are quite high, if said gent is both physically attractive and financially successful. Even if the gal he's currently with is a supermodel, that yearning for a fresh adventure isn't extinguished
 

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Another reason to start lifting weights.

All these Fat Jabbers will end up skinny which is not a good look for men.
 

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Another reason to start lifting weights.

All these Fat Jabbers will end up skinny which is not a good look for men.
And then as soon as they stop they will be going back to being fat and gain more weight because a large portion of what they lost was muscle mass which burns significantly more calories than the fat they kept.
 

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And then as soon as they stop they will be going back to being fat and gain more weight because a large portion of what they lost was muscle mass which burns significantly more calories than the fat they kept.
I'm on one for sleep apnea due to eating probably 3x more than necessary on a bulking phase - but i find myself becoming more defined using the product (which admittedly may be a rare outcome?)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I'm on one for sleep apnea due to eating probably 3x more than necessary on a bulking phase - but i find myself becoming more defined using the product (which admittedly may be a rare outcome?)
If you are lifting that might be plausible, but dirty bulks are kind of pointless. Your body is only able to add about 2 lbs of muscle a month, at most, under optimal conditions and usually the points that are not optimal don't have to do with calories, it has to do with recovery and sleep.

You are creating a problem that you don't need to create and then using a drug that you don't need to use to treat it.
 

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If you are lifting that might be plausible, but dirty bulks are kind of pointless. Your body is only able to add about 2 lbs of muscle a month, at most, under optimal conditions and usually the points that are not optimal don't have to do with calories, it has to do with recovery and sleep.

You are creating a problem that you don't need to create and then using a drug that you don't need to use to treat it.
No then I misstated what happened. Last year I did a dirty bulk - this year I am peeling it off.
 

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No then I misstated what happened. Last year I did a dirty bulk - this year I am peeling it off.
Ahh, OK gotcha. Honestly I am still not a fan of GLP-1 for a few reasons.

First, you don't need it. I lost 80+ pounds in a little over a year before. Nobody "needs" these things to lose weight. The body will do it all by itself when you give it the proper inputs.

Second, it robs you of the discipline that you will need to maintain it and understand how your body actually functions without it.
 

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Ahh, OK gotcha. Honestly I am still not a fan of GLP-1 for a few reasons.

First, you don't need it. I lost 80+ pounds in a little over a year before. Nobody "needs" these things to lose weight. The body will do it all by itself when you give it the proper inputs.

Second, it robs you of the discipline that you will need to maintain it and understand how your body actually functions without it.
To a large extent I do not disagree. I have a history of doing 20/4 intermittent fasting - but I get grumpy and do not have the time available these days like I used to. In a perfect world, I'd wake up, do 10 sprints at 50 yards each, fast until dinner and then basically eat whatever I felt like. Who knows, maybe I still might.
 
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I'm in the U.K and see a lot of guys dating down; healthy-weight average 5/10 to slightly above average guys (6's) dating overweight 3's or obese 2's. I think it's in the UK, due to various factors, and there's no incentive for the everyday Britbong girl to keep in shape and/or have a pleasant nature; the dating market is rigged here. She can choose simp beggar guys with higher SMV than her. If they are taking Ozzy (ozempic) it hasn't taken full effect yet or spread to wide audience.

Contrast that with Central and Eastern Europe: every day, women keep in shape, dress and act feminine, place much more emphasis, and competition for men is much higher. A lot of them smoke, though.

I see couples like this EVERYWHERE in the UK, even when i just go do the 40 minute Supermarket once weekly shop I see couples like this grocery shopping together all the f'ing time. I actually find it sickening.

 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm in the U.K and see a lot of guys dating down; healthy-weight average 5/10 to slightly above average guys (6's) dating overweight 3's or obese 2's. I think it's in the UK, due to various factors, and there's no incentive for the everyday Britbong girl to keep in shape and/or have a pleasant nature; the dating market is rigged here. She can choose simp beggar guys with higher SMV than her. If they are taking Ozzy (ozempic) it hasn't taken full effect yet or spread to wide audience.

Contrast that with Central and Eastern Europe: every day, women keep in shape, dress and act feminine, place much more emphasis, and competition for men is much higher. A lot of them smoke, though.

I see couples like this EVERYWHERE in the UK, even when i just go do the 40 minute Supermarket once weekly shop I see couples like this grocery shopping together all the f'ing time. I actually find it sickening.

Very true.

I see a lot of guys walking to offices morning and evening, looking horrifically dejected with life. It's not surprising.

I can just tell she'll have an awful personality, be covered in school desk graffiti tattoos, etc.

Some of the paler subcontinent girls can be a decent catch if you like that look. They're always assumed Muslim so just get ignored.
 
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@Identikit_Radiohead quite a fair bit of this forum has no carryover to UK due to our "unique" situation here...
I actually think "Game" which was coined in the late 90's/early 2000's (afaik) was due to the dating environment becoming increasingly worse for healthy weight/slim/fit average men to get their Attractiveness Match or slim average women. Chateau Heartiste did an article on it. It was not a buzz word in my dads peak dating years (1967-1980) when i asked him. My dad and his friends from college/work/football club all married slim/thin or healthy weight women, not bombshells but decent 5's to 6's.

A "mid" skinny average female work colleague of mine once told me it was like having "gold bars" on the dating market by being in shape/skinny feminine shape, and that was looong ago now, around 2008/9. We were both the same age at the time - 30/31. She was just a retail worker on £6 per hour (£12'500 per year), but was being asked out by guys who were pulling in over £50'000 a year, which was a well-paid Solicitor or Lawyers annual income at the time.
 

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I actually think "Game" which was coined in the late 90's/early 2000's (afaik) was due to the dating environment becoming increasingly worse for healthy weight/slim/fit average men to get their Attractiveness Match or slim average women. Chateau Heartiste did an article on it. It was not a buzz word in my dads peak dating years (1967-1980) when i asked him. My dad and his friends from college/work/football club all married slim/thin or healthy weight women, not bombshells but decent 5's to 6's.

A "mid" skinny average female work colleague of mine once told me it was like having "gold bars" on the dating market by being in shape/skinny feminine shape, and that was looong ago now, around 2008/9. We were both the same age at the time - 30/31. She was just a retail worker on £6 per hour (£12'500 per year), but was being asked out by guys who were pulling in over £50'000 a year, which was a well-paid Solicitor or Lawyers annual income at the time.
Ultimately we've not had the regular cull of men from war or dangerous jobs like mining.

Women haven't needed to keep up standards.
 
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