BillyPilgrim
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Bc this thread has gone on too long lolHot take: why do we care?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Bc this thread has gone on too long lolHot take: why do we care?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
what’s with the photo of gigaChad? I don’t get it.Hey everyone,
I've been reading this forum for a while, and it helped me a lot at certain points in my life. Today it's my turn to share a story, because I need some outside perspective.
Let me say this upfront: I've got the situation under control and I'm clear-headed about it. I'm not getting ahead of myself and I'm not trying to win her back. I just want to understand what's going on in her head, and above all hear from the veterans here who've been through something similar.
The background
Let's call her Teresa. A very charming woman. I met her at a professional training program that ran for several weeks. We got to know each other, went out with the group, nothing special.
One night, she drank way too much. I offered to walk her back, no ulterior motive: as far as I was concerned, I had no chance with her. We ended up in my hotel room, and I told her it was just so she could sleep somewhere safe. She tried to sleep with me 3 or 4 times. I said no every time, she wasn't in a state to decide. Nothing happened that night.
What happened next
The weeks went by, the training continued… and what was bound to happen, happened. We slept together. Then again. And again. She even paid for hotel rooms herself so we could spend more time together. Important detail: she was in a relationship the whole time.
When the program ended, we called each other often and talked about meeting up. But when it came time to choose, she never took the step. No clear answer, and I got fed up with the ambiguity. In the end, she stayed with her boyfriend.
Where things stand now
It's been 4 years. 4 years without a single message or call. We both moved on with our lives.
And now she's reached out. When I asked her why now, she said she came across one of my YouTube videos and it made her want to get back in touch.
We've talked a bit since then. As it happens, I'll be passing through the city where she lives soon, so I asked her straight out: "Come on, let's grab a drink." I plan to go.
I'm not expecting anything in particular. Whatever happens, happens. I don't have an opinion on it either way.
What I'd like to understand
She has everything: security, a boyfriend who seems like a decent guy, a stable life. That was true 4 years ago, and it's still true today. Back then, she still went looking for an affair on the side before choosing stability.
And today, with all of that, she's coming back anyway.
That's the thought process I'd like to understand. How do you read all this, those of you with more experience?
I know my post is vague on some points. Ask me anything and I'll answer. The goal is to talk it through and learn from your experiences, not to judge.
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time.
She knows what she wants. To have an escape from her situation she is in and the boredom she feels with her current boyfriend.A message to everyone who replied: Thank you so much for your responses. As I told you, I was just looking to chat and share thoughts with you I don’t really care what happens next;
It's just a girl who doesn’t know what she wants.
I’m so happy to have heard from you all. I’ll write to you again for more adventures
See you soon
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
This is where you reply "you know, Teresa, I still think about you as well and many times when I do it makes things hard" and send a pic of yer c0ck underheath a towel or something softcore. Nothing too explicit, but enough to set the tone and get her juices flowing.She sent me a message: "You know, Quentin, it took me a long time to get over you. I fought a thousand times not to text you. I forced myself to delete your messages before reading them so I wouldn't be able to reply, and I thought way too often about what might have become of us…
I just wanted to tell you that."