Chinese Hypergamy

[zekko]

Saw this Alexander Grace video the other day, thought it was very interesting. It talks about what's going on in China, which is similar to what is happening here. It notes that now that women can earn or out-earn men, their hypergamous nature still wants a man who makes even more than they do. And they want the guy to pay for everything, while they use their own money on clothes, fashion, vacations, or whatever they want. And of course that doesn't even include their physical expectations for the guy.

It talks about how they keep these expectations even as they reach the end of their fertility years. And the average guys just aren't having it. They know they can't compete with these women's delusional expectations, so they don't even try. Men get into dating events free, while women have to pay - but the guys still aren't showing up.

Grace says this isn't about feminism because they don't have that in China, but isn't feminism one of the main reasons women are working and earning so much? I guess it's a global phenomenon. He also says this is a bigger problem in the big cities, which makes sense to me. I live in a more rural area, and the local women seem to have more reasonable standards.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@zekko "And the average guys just aren't having it. They know they can't compete with these women's delusional expectations, so they don't even try"

Sounds like fellas in China are no less predisposed towards concocting justifications for their inaction than their brethren here in The West are. Who the hell wants to admit outright:

"Going out into the wild and pursuing my desires requires that I experience discomfort, therefore I choose to NOT do so"

 

[Bigpapa]

Saw this Alexander Grace video the other day, thought it was very interesting. It talks about what's going on in China, which is similar to what is happening here. It notes that now that women can earn or out-earn men, their hypergamous nature still wants a man who makes even more than they do. And they want the guy to pay for everything, while they use their own money on clothes, fashion, vacations, or whatever they want. And of course that doesn't even include their physical expectations for the guy.

It talks about how they keep these expectations even as they reach the end of their fertility years. And the average guys just aren't having it. They know they can't compete with these women's delusional expectations, so they don't even try. Men get into dating events free, while women have to pay - but the guys still aren't showing up.

Grace says this isn't about feminism because they don't have that in China, but isn't feminism one of the main reasons women are working and earning so much? I guess it's a global phenomenon. He also says this is a bigger problem in the big cities, which makes sense to me. I live in a more rural area, and the local women seem to have more reasonable standards.

to be fair, I never really understood where Hypergamy happens, especially in ltrs

what I see is women and men more or less at the same level of attractiveness and social/economical level in ltrs

in china I think is just an issue of men just being more than women, because till recently they were allowed only 1 child and everyone wanted a boy

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@zekko "And the average guys just aren't having it. They know they can't compete with these women's delusional expectations, so they don't even try"

Sounds like fellas in China are no less predisposed towards concocting justifications for their inaction than their brethren here in The West are. Who the hell wants to admit outright:

"Going out into the wild and pursuing my desires requires that I experience discomfort, therefore I choose to NOT do so"

The irony of not realizing this promotes the female imperative is richer than Genghis Khan or King Solomon ever was.

Of all the pieces of male advice dispensed over the millennium, this has to be one of the most intellectually challenged and self-defeating

Let's work ourselves to death for mediocre Chinese tang, said no one ever until now.

If @BaronOfHair was a character in Full Metal Jacket when the GI's are picking up the "me so horny" girls, he would likely butt in and remind them that "a true man doesn't take shortcuts and instead redeems himself through 100 hour factory workweeks" as they laugh in his face and push him out of the way.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Let's work ourselves to death for mediocre Chinese tang, said no one ever until now.

And Sydney Sweeney could've blindly bought into a culture that was still smarting from MeToo's party line:

"Don't take your clothes off on camera and say "Yes" to simu sex, even though beautiful actresses have been doing this very thing since times immemorial, in order to build lucrative careers. That just panders to The Male Gaze and strengthens to The Patriarchy"

She instead did what was required to get further up the proverbial ladder, and is now worth millions, while her detractors remain flat broke op-ed writers for BuzzFeed

 

[BadBoy89]

It talks about how they keep these expectations even as they reach the end of their fertility years. And the average guys just aren't having it.

The whole argument falls apart here.

”Average guys aren’t having It”. Thats 100% entitlement, If you want to have it, then don’t be average.

Men get into dating events free, while women have to pay - but the guys still aren’t showing up.

This is not a Chinese thing.

It’s in a man’s DNA not to go to speed dating, unless it was all hot 22 year girls or something. Even then, the concept of speed dating where the woman picks the guy does not sit well with the man. He goes on 15 3 min interviews only to get rejected by all at end of night.

Thats why men like online dating, they do the picking.

 

[BaronOfHair]

”Average guys aren’t having It”

Yeah, that may be The Manosphere's closest equivalent to Intersectionality's arguments for nonsense like so-called Body Positivity:

"It's not fair that only 10s have men drooling over them"

Even though, as has been mentioned in a different thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/90-men-are-invisible.286438/page-3#post-3195262 10s rarely, if ever, occur naturally. Gals who are labelled as such also had to put in effort, up to and including enduring a fair amount of plastic surgery + The pain that accompanies such activity

MOST men who are bona fide p-ssy magnets similar started out pretty "average", and still have flaws of some sort they have to work around