How do you know if a woman is cheating without proof?

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Thanks everyone for contributing to this topic.

As you can see, many have had experience with this, and apparently, the main way you recognize it is when they change their habits/behaviors.

Which makes it even weirder... a person is bound to change in a relationship, so when they tell you, "I go to the new yoga class, three times a week, every morning from 8 to 9," you don't think they're doing it because they might be seeing someone during that time and cheating on you. In fact, you're encouraging them to do it.



It's as if nature pushes us to think about these things directly; we're programmed to do so.

But if you said your ex cheated, you somehow found out, and then you changed your attitude about the fact that when you hear a woman is cheating, what do you do now?
You don't think about getting proof, but rather, how do you behave now?



They are masters at manipulation; one used it as a pretext... she left WhatsApp open for her boyfriend to show how "honest" she was, but in reality she was using other apps to cheat (Telegram and Snapchat).
dude, you also have to think if you are paranoid or not

sounds to me more like you are paranoid / extremely jealous

who tf will wake up at 8 am to cheat?
It means that things very broken if it ends up to this

same thing with asking to see her whatssup, the relationship is broken
 

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according to the manosphere, every woman is cheating on their partner, fvcking 3 guys simultaneously, and being flown to Miami/dubai 5 times a year while still maintaining the image of a normal life.
that is why the red pill is toxic, makes men whom potentially could have been decent people, into extremely anxious men

High anxiety is a very bad place to be as a guy, kills you slowly both physically but also mentally. Same thing to women

In terms of women high sexual promiscuity, I noticed that in the vast majority of women fall into of these 3 groups : f8cked in the head, high in testosterone ( usually you can see this when you notice she does not really have curves), or low smv women

if she is f8cked in the head, high body count usually comes from the fact that she can not really have ltrs, which makes her body count increase as years pass by

if she has a higher than normal testosterone, usually means that she is hornier than most women, which can make her act on her impulses more often, especially if she places herself in places where she can be seduced

low smv women usually employs sex as a way to show herself that she is wanted, especially when it comes to higher smv guys

If you notice anything, it is mainly about women just acting based on what internally is in them, rather than them being malicious

I think that people focus too much on these categories of women, which creates high anxiety which f8cks you in the head sooner or later
 
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If you notice anything, it is mainly about women just acting based on what internally is in them, rather than them being malicious
exactly. but... a man must understand what is internally in them. they are not evil (usually). they are not the enemy, they are a different type then men. red pill tells us that they do what they do because of what they are. they are not demon possesed (usually) but will follow what they are. just as men do follow what they are.

blue pill tries to screen out the truths of how the animal works. convert an R rated show to be G. The methods include convincing you what you see is not real. What you feel is insecurity instead of just accepting that you don't like what is happening. long list of ways.

it is not us against them... that is not red pill. it is understanding what is actually happening.

for example the fact that a higher smv guy can get with a married women when her hormone cycle spins and her mood flows is not evil, its just how it works. red pill is knowing how it works.

the same can be said of men. don't think i ever met a man that wanted to harm his mate by cheating. sometimes women do it to harm the mate, but usually thats not it. both men and women do it because they do not have honor. red pill teaches us that honor has no place in evolution. one of the oldest and simple red pill rule is that you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. blue pill tries to convince that you will eventually get what you deserve.

red pill is not toxic. it can be difficult to accept the truth and that is the real issue. much easier to hate women than to understand that a man has low smv. some parts of it can not be changed for the man, evolution will weed that one out. being the weed sucks. just because something is not nice does not make it wrong.

humans are actively overrunning the planet. the system works very well.
 

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exactly. but... a man must understand what is internally in them. they are not evil (usually). they are not the enemy, they are a different type then men. red pill tells us that they do what they do because of what they are. they are not demon possesed (usually) but will follow what they are. just as men do follow what they are.

blue pill tries to screen out the truths of how the animal works. convert an R rated show to be G. The methods include convincing you what you see is not real. What you feel is insecurity instead of just accepting that you don't like what is happening. long list of ways.

it is not us against them... that is not red pill. it is understanding what is actually happening.

for example the fact that a higher smv guy can get with a married women when her hormone cycle spins and her mood flows is not evil, its just how it works. red pill is knowing how it works.

the same can be said of men. don't think i ever met a man that wanted to harm his mate by cheating. sometimes women do it to harm the mate, but usually thats not it. both men and women do it because they do not have honor. red pill teaches us that honor has no place in evolution. one of the oldest and simple red pill rule is that you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. blue pill tries to convince that you will eventually get what you deserve.

red pill is not toxic. it can be difficult to accept the truth and that is the real issue. much easier to hate women than to understand that a man has low smv. some parts of it can not be changed for the man, evolution will weed that one out. being the weed sucks. just because something is not nice does not make it wrong.

humans are actively overrunning the planet. the system works very well.
don’t fully agree with your take of the blue pill

mainly because if you look at the advices the elderly gave ( and received from their elderly ) about men and women, they are not any different than what is preached in the red pill

Things like
“ after trains and women never chase “ ,
“ women need to know who is in charge “
, “ you will find a new one, don’t be such a wimp “
, “ beauty does not matter, character matters “, “ if she creates problems always, dump her “ etc etc etc

just that in our elderly vision the emphasis was put on the man to make things happen. Basically men acting like men

red pill is just a troglodyte version of the blue pill where the emphasis is put on women that are evil. And from there is stems a lot of mental masturbation that is extremely toxic to men that just creates a lot of anxiety and wrong set of beliefs that literally just makes things even worse

if you ask me, red pill is just the counter movement to feminism, basically men saw the feminist beliefs and just adjusted that rhetoric to men, but both of them have the same core ideas just that they are opposite.

Basically red pill teaches men to act like women, and it caters to bitter men just as feminism caters to bitter women

blue pill tells men that they are men and have to act like one, and most importantly to always be accountable

Red pill tells men that it is ok to whine and act like a woman, and most importantly it strips away accountability from the men to a third party ( it is not me man, women are evil or only want the top 10% )

and no wonder society crumbles when no one is accountable anymore
 
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don’t fully agree with your take of the blue pill

mainly because if you look at the advices the elderly gave ( and received from their elderly ) about men and women, they are not any different than what is preached in the red pill

Things like
“ after trains and women never chase “ ,
“ women need to know who is in charge “
, “ you will find a new one, don’t be such a wimp “
, “ beauty does not matter, character matters “, “ if she creates problems always, dump her “ etc etc etc

just that in our elderly vision the emphasis was put on the man to make things happen. Basically men acting like men

red pill is just a troglodyte version of the blue pill where the emphasis is put on women that are evil. And from there is stems a lot of mental masturbation that is extremely toxic to men that just creates a lot of anxiety and wrong set of beliefs that literally just makes things even worse

if you ask me, red pill is just the counter movement to feminism, basically men saw the feminist beliefs and just adjusted that rhetoric to men, but both of them have the same core ideas just that they are opposite.

Basically red pill teaches men to act like women, and it caters to bitter men just as feminism caters to bitter women

blue pill tells men that they are men and have to act like one, and most importantly to always be accountable

Red pill tells men that it is ok to whine and act like a woman, and most importantly it strips away accountability from the men to a third party ( it is not me man, women are evil or only want the top 10% )

and no wonder society crumbles when no one is accountable anymore
i like your version of blue pill. that's just masculine and proper man behavior. in discussions usually blue pill == something less attractive. as per your definition I do not actually see very many blue pill men. when I do I would view them as alpha by your description of blue pill. my version of red pill is closer to your version of blue pill. for example crying about women's behavior is blue pill while taking action and adjust self to address it is red pill. your definitions are almost opposite of that. definition problem on your side or on my side. for the behavior we are saying the same thing or close to it.
 

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according to the manosphere, every woman is cheating on their partner, fvcking 3 guys simultaneously, and being flown to Miami/dubai 5 times a year while still maintaining the image of a normal life.
Wrong.

The manosphere says every women is a virgin before marriage, has 2 healthy kids while simultaneously looking after the home, and is not able to divorce and take 51% of the man‘s assets.
 

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You can always

-Report her to DHS for "providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization"

Then

-Pray in church every Sunday that, after a week or two of waterboarding and sensory deprivation, she'll confess to spreading her legs for The FedEx Guy. In the midst of coping to a veritable sh-t-on of additional accusations she isn't actually guilt of

Desperate situations frequently require that we pursue drastic measures, if we're to retrieve any sort of resolution. Just ask the editors of Page 6, who've spent today reporting on Brian Austin Green's declining sex drive... Now that high-profile celebrities are taking a hiatus from croaking this week(RIP Hayden Panettiere, Dolly Parton, and Tim Curry), they're doing what's necessary, in order to keep their readers hooked
 
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Still unsure as to why humans love to get so worked up about partners wanting to sleep with others

The construct of monogamy is not natural its a social construct designed by wider society to keep people supplicated

People in long term relationships tend to be less of a threat to the system, their predictable will get big mortgages credit cards they tend to consume a lot of consumer goods, have cars on finance take less risks with entrepreneurship etc

Just generally more controllable more easy to politically manouvre and more easy to tax

Humans also tend to like to control others and the opposite sex partner is no greater example of that " your mine now " ....

Some people really enjoy playing happy families , but in my experiences most people eventually want a taste of the forbidden fruit and given half the chance will indulge themselves in an affair be that male or female

Men love hunting new sexual partners and women love flaunting for new sexual partners

None of this fundamentally changes upon entering a relationship its just the rules are supposed to change but rules do not stop innate desires
 
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