“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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FR: Ocean Shi**y

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Alright, unfortunately, neither my beach week nor my bachelor party trip went my way, so I thought I'd talk about it since there are some takeaways...but also just to have a laugh at my misfortune and terrible luck :rofl:

I'll split this into separate parts for the beach week and the bachelor trip to make it easier to read, and if I end up having to make more than one post to fit everything.

Beach Week

Maybe it's me. Maybe it was COVID. Maybe it's just how people are these days. But this was nowhere near as much fun as I was hoping - and my brother agreed...

The fact that my mom and dad would be leaving mid-week to go back and have his bladder cancer removed also cast something of a shadow over the trip, since how that went could make or break the trip. I was also juggling the dating coaching stuff and creating my content uploads, so while I wasn't technically working, I still had a job to do, and that meant I had to schedule my days around that and the gym so I could get ready in time to go out at night with my brother.

Anyway, the women weren't particularly attractive overall, and the dating apps were dry. There's not much to report, so I'll rush through it to get to the bachelor party story, since that's the funny/sad one.

Thursday, I'd met a girl and her friend out at Seacrets, and we hit it off. She actually came up to me, so I knew I could push my limits a little bit. Her friend was equally cute and was the one I initially had my eye on, but I was happy either way. I got pretty hammered that night, and this girl and I spent a good while making out. The friend was also single and was drunkenly FaceTiming some older guy she sleeps with for a booty call...I tried to hook her up with my brother, but they weren't feeling each other, and she came back to me asking if he was gay, which I thought was hilarious.

I think this is a done deal, so I invite her back with us, but she says she and her friend have to leave together. I ask if she would rather I come with her, and she tells me they're both staying with her friend's grandma, so that wouldn't really work out. I have her number, so we make tentative plans to see each other the next night.

Friday was way worse. I woke up with a really rough cold, so I didn't even want to go out that night. One of my friends came down from up north to visit for the weekend, so it was him, my brother, and me tonight; otherwise I probably would've stayed in. The same girl from the first night finds me pretty early, so she and the friend hang around, but this time they have a whole entourage with some guys. My girl is visibly hammered, and the group talks about leaving, while my girl wants to stay with me...it's worth noting that she's very sloppy, so I'm much less interested, plus the fact that I'm not feeling good. Two of the guys from the group break off to come up to me and ask me if I kissed this girl. I told them I hadn't tonight, but that I did the previous night. I learned that one of the two guys is her boyfriend. He's not confrontational or upset with me, and I explained that I didn't know. I don't know who's lying in this situation, but I don't need the drama...so I excuse myself, and they all leave together.

Nothing else eventful happened that trip. Saturday morning we had to leave, and I didn't see any other women I was into that night.

Pretty lackluster trip overall.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bachelor Party

Now, it's worth noting that while I'm very good friends with the groom, I'd never met most of these other guys...Almost everybody is in a relationship or married, and none of them are in good shape. Additionally, the bride was having her bachelorette party at the same time, in the same place, at a different AirBNB (we went out with each other every night). They are also not hot and/or not single.

Just to kinda preface that, I'm on my own little island when it comes to how I like to go about my nights.

Thursday night, I got to the house late because I wanted to get my workout in ahead of time. Because of this, they helped "expedite" my drunkenness, and I got way too hammered way too early and actually left the venue early (not that there were any attractive women there).

Friday night, we collectively went to Fager's Island. There were a lot of attractive women there, but this group likes to go out early, so by the time I would've been there and started looking to meet someone, a majority of them had already left. At the tail end of the night, I ended up meeting this one really gorgeous girl with her friends. Turns out she's there for the weekend because it's her birthday. We were going to do a shot together, but the bar closed, so I took her number and told her we could do one tomorrow night.

Saturday during the day, we went to Seacrets with the bridesmaids. I knew what this would be like, so I paced myself to make sure I could make it out for the night festivities. If you've never been to Seacrets, the fact that you'll get served out in the water is a big draw - DO NOT GO OUT THERE. I witnessed at least 3 people throw up in it, including one of our guys, and I'm sure several more were peeing in it.

I do want to briefly touch on an approach I made that was met with the most ungodly amount of c*ntiness I've ever seen...

By the time we were getting ready to leave, there was another bachelorette party going on, who was mixing with maybe a bachelor party (like what we were doing). It was hard to tell, because there was one really gorgeous woman who was hanging around with one particular guy, but I was getting friend vibes more than lover vibes. Anyway, as we were leaving and waiting on our Uber, that group was outside with us, so I decided to shoot my shot. I went up and told her I thought she was really gorgeous, and asked if that was her man earlier.

She explained that she's single and is really sweet and receptive...but my god...her fellow bachelorettes...2 of them were next to her and kept telling me that she was a doctor, 1 of whom told me that I should be bowing down to this girl. Shortly after, another bachelorette came and physically pushed me back, stating, "Absolutely not, we are leaving". At that point, I decided to walk away, shaking my head - the girl I was talking to even apologized for their behavior as I left. I didn't know what to say...I was just disappointed by that behavior.

Anyway, everybody miraculously survives to make it out for the night. But they want to start the night EARLY - I'm talking 10PM they want to be back at Seacrets. Realistically, most of us get there closer to 11PM, and our group once again meets up with the bachelorette's group.

However, less than an hour later, they are all ready to leave...some even drive the entire way home that night.

Up until now, we've done everything collectively, as a group. So now I decide f*** this, I want to meet some women, and soon enough I'm the only one still out at the bar.

I text back and forth with the girl from the night before, and she tells me she'll be here soon. She finds me, along with her friends, and we do a birthday shot. The flirting is going well and all, but she rejects me when I go in for the kiss, claiming she needs to get more comfortable with me and get to know me better. After that, I pull back a little bit, and she starts ordering her own drinks. That's when the friends come up to me and ask me why I'm letting her buy her own drinks - now I get it...she's just using me to subsidize her night. At that point, I walked away. Later on, I'd see her drunkenly stumbling to the bathroom with her friends, so I dodged a bullet.

While walking away, a group of 3 girls passes me, one of which catches my eye. So I stop her, tell her she's really gorgeous, and she's immediately receptive. Her friends see this, but leave her alone with me, and she doesn't try to catch up with them - so I already know this is off to a great start. This is the girl I was initially planning on writing this FR about...I was going to call it "FR: Almost" because of this girl.

I brought her back to the bar I'd just walked away from to get myself a new drink, and bought her one as well. Things are going great; we're chatting a bit, flirting a bit, getting to know each other. It turns out she's 23 and drove down from Salisbury - unlike the issues I've had at the college bars, she certainly doesn't mind my age. I go for the kiss, and she's receptive to that as well, but she remarks that she doesn't like making out in public...to which I suggest that she come back with me...to which she agrees. She just wants to spend some time here with her friends before then.

We then walk out to the main floor in front of the live band and find her friends. I meet the friends; they like me, and I dance with my girl for a little bit until it's closing time. The performing band is Screaming Monkeys, which has a stuffed monkey that my girl really wants, so I ask the lead singer if I can have it to give to her. He politely declines, but she thinks it's really sweet that I tried.

Now the bar is closing...but disaster strikes...

One of the friends in the group gets a call from her boyfriend that he's been cheating on her, and that he's breaking up with her...

This, understandably, sends that girl into crying hysterics. Now my girl is doing her best to appease her friend, but also trying to leave with me, frequently bouncing back and forth between us. Unfortunately, this girl is really devastated, so my girl apologizes to me and ultimately ends up leaving with her.

I later take the drunk bus back to the house and just start laughing to myself about how bad my luck was, that it felt like I'd been divinely c*ckblocked.

She ends up texting me later that night, but doesn't respond after that, so I leave it alone, and nothing happens.

I thought I'd have a new LR to write by now, but it seems God has other plans. I got booty called by my ex not too long ago, so that was fun, but I haven't been with anybody new in a little while now, so that sucks. I just thought it was kinda hilarious how everything went so well - until it didn't.

Anyway, that's my story; hope you had a good laugh, and goodnight.
 

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In this day n age the friend group is likely the biggest obstacle to one night stands , unless they already know who you are they will cause problems

The only exception is if you get a group of 2-3 and all of them are down to get laid , If one Isn't or is in a relationship she will move heaven and earth to make sure the others don't get any either

After a lot of one night stands under my belt I always find it absolutely incredible how women will literally be down to fvck simply if her friend is or isn't

They have such strong hive mind and cannot stand not having attention if another woman is having it infront of her
 

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In this day n age the friend group is likely the biggest obstacle to one night stands , unless they already know who you are they will cause problems

The only exception is if you get a group of 2-3 and all of them are down to get laid , If one Isn't or is in a relationship she will move heaven and earth to make sure the others don't get any either

After a lot of one night stands under my belt I always find it absolutely incredible how women will literally be down to fvck simply if her friend is or isn't

They have such strong hive mind and cannot stand not having attention if another woman is having it infront of her
I once played two girls against each other while sitting between them for over an hour. I played it to right down the middle, to my advantage. Finally one asked me who I liked. I went home with the younger one and the older went home with some other guy. Turns out they were sisters. Lol.
 

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@BPH "Anyway, the women weren't particularly attractive overall..."

Was this on the shores of Delaware you were hunting cooter?
 

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@BPH "Anyway, the women weren't particularly attractive overall..."

Was this on the shores of Delaware you were hunting cooter?
Ocean City, MD is about 40 minutes south of Dewey Beach, DE. Both are hotspots during the summer, but both have also gone down considerably in quality year after year in terms of women.

Everything was pretty great pre-COVID, now, finding a hot girl is more of a needle in the haystack kinda deal.
 

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Ocean City, MD is about 40 minutes south of Dewey Beach, DE. Both are hotspots during the summer, but both have also gone down considerably in quality year after year in terms of women.

Everything was pretty great pre-COVID, now, finding a hot girl is more of a needle in the haystack kinda deal.

Given all that + The fact that we had a chat along these lines awhile back https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/fr-college-kids-are-back.284676/#post-3169371 , I presume you're either

-Putting together a strategy to relocate to a more ritzy corner of the nation

-Content to remain where you're at, and continue to bemoan the deficit of beautiful women in your locale
 

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Ocean City, MD is about 40 minutes south of Dewey Beach, DE. Both are hotspots during the summer, but both have also gone down considerably in quality year after year in terms of women.

Everything was pretty great pre-COVID, now, finding a hot girl is more of a needle in the haystack kinda deal.
They have some kickass softshell crabs there tho! Best places are little holes in the walls the locals only know...
 

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They have some kickass softshell crabs there tho! Best places are little holes in the walls the locals only know...
I mean, it's great for food, but I have my diet, so I either packed my meals or tried to eat as healthy as I could. I disagree with that second part, though.

Last year, the 2nd girl I slept with at the end of the week, I went back down to visit in September or late August and stayed the weekend with her. We went to a dive bar the first night, and the locals were not attractive...same with the dating apps. The only real exceptions are some of the servers and bartenders at Seacrets specifically, and a handful of the foreign boardwalk workers who come down to work in the summer.
 
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