My dad has bladder cancer

[BackInTheGame78]

Are there any symptoms or clues that can identify whether you have it or not at one of those early stages?

There are new blood tests that are available that can detect cancers VERY early on when they are most treatable, but you have to pay out of pocket for them as most insurancess don't cover them and I'm not sure on their approval status in the US.

There are also some other new tests that can detect a wide range of cancers like the Galleria Test and the Caris Test which combines DNA and AI to look for signatures of cancer molecules.

They run about $1000 or so, but could be the best thousand dollars you ever spend if it finds something early that otherwise would be deadly.

 

[nicksaiz65]

There are new blood tests that are available that can detect cancers VERY early on when they are most treatable, but you have to pay out of pocket for them as most insurancess don't cover them and I'm not sure on their approval status in the US.

There are also some other new tests that can detect a wide range of cancers like the Galleria Test and the Caris Test which combines DNA and AI to look for signatures of cancer molecules.

They run about $1000 or so, but could be the best thousand dollars you ever spend if it finds something early that otherwise would be deadly.

Why won’t insurance cover it? Because it’s a proactive thing?

 

[sevbucmash]

He just got back from an appointment after having blood in his pee for a little while.

He doesn't recall whether or not it's in the muscle walls, but based on what he's told me, the doctor suggested treatments to extract the cells, which leads me to believe it's still highly treatable.

I wanted to see if anybody here has had cancer, or maybe has family who's had cancer, and recovered. I understand that doing a water fast and doing one's best to be in a positive mood (laughter, something to look forward to, fun activities) has proven to be very helpful.

Just seeing if anybody here knows anything.

Try BCG (Bacillus Calmette–Guérin) immunotherapy, non‑muscle‑invasive bladder cancer (NMIBC). Especially BCG Russia strain. It's a bacterium that stimulate an immune response inside bladder. BCG Russia strain is in particular proven to be potent.

If **** does hit the fan, you have a chance with Russian mRNA "vaccine" from cancer. It is in experimental stage and a patient must qualify. https://gamaleya.org/ and https://new.nmicr.ru/ and https://www.ronc.ru/
There is no positive light on it in English speaking segment, everything is bad and unproven and dangerous behind the veil of propaganda. In reality, it's a ****tail that is specifically designed for you and you only. It is administered to you, and you get better within weeks. Tumor disappears. Like nothing ever was there.

Now, whatever you do there, do not do radiation. Patients that do it are in survival rates. My aunt died after 10 years, in USA, horrible death, cancer ate her from inside out. So this is from experience. In the U.S. especially, they take your money just so they can do something and charge you for it, not because it will help you.

Other things to consider are traditional medicines. #1 Chaga fungus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inonotus_obliquus you drink it. #2 Bear fat, as long as it is tested and don't have trichinosis and other parasites, you drink it with tea just like honey. These two are known to help with cancers by supercharging your immune system.

 

[Travel memoir21]

I'm so sorry Brother. Now's the time to be spending as much time as you can with your Dad and comfort him in his time of need. I don't know what your faith is, but you gotta believe in something, ask a higher power for guidance and pray that everything goes well. I'm not advocating any religion here. But you gotta believe in something man....you probably know what works best for you. Prayers for your dad Man.

 

[BPH]

Small update:

Surgery is scheduled for July 22nd.

He'll be seen by, supposedly, the best doctor for this type of cancer surgery in the region, or something - Dr. Christopher Mitchell in Delaware, a urologist. Apparently, this is the soonest availability he has. I don't know the difference between #1 and #2, but I'd imagine it would be more important to see him sooner than it would be to have a better doctor.

Unfortunately, this lands in the middle of our annual family vacation to the beach, so he and my mom will be leaving midway through that week to accommodate this.

The findings from that procedure will pretty much be make-or-break. My dad, my brother, and I are fine. My mom is more of a wreck. My sister, who basically disowned us all about 2-3 years ago, doesn't know, and we don't plan to inform her at this time.

It's Thursday now, so I'm debating whether I should bother going out and trying to have a good time this weekend. The past 2 weeks have been pretty sh**, and I was quite depressed last weekend for the 4th; I didn't go anywhere or do anything. Throughout the last 2 weeks, I've had a pretty consistent string of negatives without positives, culminating in the news I presented in this thread.

On one hand, I've been pretty depressed, and this might be the last "fun" weekend for a while, depending on the results from that appointment. It might benefit me to get out and try to have fun and be around some women and maybe a friend or two.

On the other hand, I don't know if I'll be able to have fun, or if I'll get more emotional about the situation when I'm drunk, or if the night will be spent with my friends offering sympathy rather than trying to shed a positive light.

That's where I'm at right now. Cautiously optimistic, but that very much depends on what happens come the 22nd.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Small update:

Surgery is scheduled for July 22nd.

He'll be seen by, supposedly, the best doctor for this type of cancer surgery in the region, or something - Dr. Christopher Mitchell in Delaware, a urologist. Apparently, this is the soonest availability he has. I don't know the difference between #1 and #2, but I'd imagine it would be more important to see him sooner than it would be to have a better doctor.

Unfortunately, this lands in the middle of our annual family vacation to the beach, so he and my mom will be leaving midway through that week to accommodate this.

The findings from that procedure will pretty much be make-or-break. My dad, my brother, and I are fine. My mom is more of a wreck. My sister, who basically disowned us all about 2-3 years ago, doesn't know, and we don't plan to inform her at this time.

It's Thursday now, so I'm debating whether I should bother going out and trying to have a good time this weekend. The past 2 weeks have been pretty sh**, and I was quite depressed last weekend for the 4th; I didn't go anywhere or do anything. Throughout the last 2 weeks, I've had a pretty consistent string of negatives without positives, culminating in the news I presented in this thread.

On one hand, I've been pretty depressed, and this might be the last "fun" weekend for a while, depending on the results from that appointment. It might benefit me to get out and try to have fun and be around some women and maybe a friend or two.

On the other hand, I don't know if I'll be able to have fun, or if I'll get more emotional about the situation when I'm drunk, or if the night will be spent with my friends offering sympathy rather than trying to shed a positive light.

That's where I'm at right now. Cautiously optimistic, but that very much depends on what happens come the 22nd.

How old is your dad? Did they give you a percentage of survival rate, or if he needs chemo after the surgery, or if the doctor is optimistic about the procedure, or anything like that?

 

[sevbucmash]

My sister, who basically disowned us all about 2-3 years ago, doesn't know, and we don't plan to inform her at this time.

Inform her.

I'm debating whether I should bother going out and trying to have a good time this weekend.

No.

 

[BPH]

How old is your dad? Did they give you a percentage of survival rate, or if he needs chemo after the surgery, or if the doctor is optimistic about the procedure, or anything like that?

The way I understand it, they have no idea the extent of the removal until they actually go in for the procedure, similar to how you wouldn't know what's wrong with a car until a mechanic opens it up - you just know something IS wrong.

Beyond that, we know nothing. He's recently 69 years old.

Inform her.

That's his decision, not mine, but I agree with him. My sister threw our entire family, her ex-husband, and even our extended family under the bus to avoid taking accountability for the situation SHE put herself in. She's called my parents groomers, my cousins molesters, her ex-husband an abuser, and me a pedo - all to write multiple books about us and act like she's some sort of survivor.

The ONLY time she reached out of her own accord was to provide a mini-update, before asking for financial support...If I had it my way, I wouldn't let her attend the funeral when my parents pass. I don't think somebody who neglected somebody during their life is entitled to feeling good about themselves for a few hours by making an appearance to grieve over their death.

I feel very strongly about this topic, and it is not something I'll debate. I've seen my mom cry over her and the things she's done too many times.

No.

I've been rather depressed for 2 weeks. I'm not sure the solution is to be alone and continue being depressed.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The way I understand it, they have no idea the extent of the removal until they actually go in for the procedure, similar to how you wouldn't know what's wrong with a car until a mechanic opens it up - you just know something IS wrong.

Beyond that, we know nothing. He's recently 69 years old.



That's his decision, not mine, but I agree with him. My sister threw our entire family, her ex-husband, and even our extended family under the bus to avoid taking accountability for the situation SHE put herself in. She's called my parents groomers, my cousins molesters, her ex-husband an abuser, and me a pedo - all to write multiple books about us and act like she's some sort of survivor.

The ONLY time she reached out of her own accord was to provide a mini-update, before asking for financial support...If I had it my way, I wouldn't let her attend the funeral when my parents pass. I don't think somebody who neglected somebody during their life is entitled to feeling good about themselves for a few hours by making an appearance to grieve over their death.

I feel very strongly about this topic, and it is not something I'll debate. I've seen my mom cry over her and the things she's done too many times.



I've been rather depressed for 2 weeks. I'm not sure the solution is to be alone and continue being depressed.

He's only 69; that's not old these days so he has age on his side. Hopefully everything goes well, and I'm sure he'll be alright.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I'm so sorry BPH. I hope his surgery goes well; stay strong and try to remain positive if you can.

I went through this with my brother. He didn't have bladder cancer, he had a nodular melanoma that traveled into his brain so a different thing but staying positive or trying to is important as well as taking care of yourself..

Wishing your dad, you and your family all the best man.

 

[characternote]

The way I understand it, they have no idea the extent of the removal until they actually go in for the procedure

Yeah, that's how I remember it being. In my case, they had aa pretty good idea of what was going on from the cystoscopy, although they couldn't say for certain until after they removed the tumour. You didn't mention whether he's had one of those yet. (That was no day at the beach, I can tell you! I still get nightmares about my first one lol)

After my operation they were able to tell me the actual grade and stage. I've forgotten all my details now because I never really wanted to think about any of it afterwards.

Hopefully it's non-invasive. If so, they'll remove the tumour and then he'll just need regular check-ups afterwards. I actually remember seeing mine on the screen while the camera was inside me. I spotted it before the doctor even said anything. It looked completely out of place, almost like a bit of sea coral.

Tell your mum that, if it turns out to be more serious, it doesn't automatically mean the worst. "Cancer" is a frightening word, but bladder cancer is often still very treatable, even when it's more advanced. Treatment might be more involved...sometimes people need chemotherapy, radiotherapy, or even surgery to remove the bladder (which can mean living with a urostomy or something), but plenty of people do well after that too.

 

[Stephen89]

Sorry to hear that bro.

Stay strong man.

I wish the surgery goes well.

Good luck with everything, best wishes for your family.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@BPH Well that's rough... Hope this works out well

 

[eli77]

is he going the alternative route if he can travel international it can meen a world if difference!

 

[Sega Genesis]

Surgery is scheduled for July 22nd.

@BPH I hope your dad's surgery went well and that he's ok, you're okay and your mom is ok.

I've been there man, stay strong.

 

[eli77]

heavy drinker ?Hope he swings back.

 

[eli77]

Try BCG (Bacillus Calmette–Guérin) immunotherapy, non‑muscle‑invasive bladder cancer (NMIBC). Especially BCG Russia strain. It's a bacterium that stimulate an immune response inside bladder. BCG Russia strain is in particular proven to be potent.

If **** does hit the fan, you have a chance with Russian mRNA "vaccine" from cancer. It is in experimental stage and a patient must qualify. https://gamaleya.org/ and https://new.nmicr.ru/ and https://www.ronc.ru/
There is no positive light on it in English speaking segment, everything is bad and unproven and dangerous behind the veil of propaganda. In reality, it's a ****tail that is specifically designed for you and you only. It is administered to you, and you get better within weeks. Tumor disappears. Like nothing ever was there.

Now, whatever you do there, do not do radiation. Patients that do it are in survival rates. My aunt died after 10 years, in USA, horrible death, cancer ate her from inside out. So this is from experience. In the U.S. especially, they take your money just so they can do something and charge you for it, not because it will help you.

Other things to consider are traditional medicines. #1 Chaga fungus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inonotus_obliquus you drink it. #2 Bear fat, as long as it is tested and don't have trichinosis and other parasites, you drink it with tea just like honey. These two are known to help with cancers by supercharging your immune system.

mom had a cancer scare early detection is what saved her.All ages must be checked !
so true

 

[BPH]

@BPH I hope your dad's surgery went well and that he's ok, you're okay and your mom is ok.

I've been there man, stay strong.

I got a message from @Clockwerk50 asking the same thing, so I'll copy and paste my reply to him here:

He got the cancer in his bladder removed, had to wear a catheter for a little while, and now just has to not do strenuous activity for a while.

He's going back in on Thursday to see if the cancer is anywhere outside of his bladder, and my mom wants a 2nd opinion from another specialist, just to be sure. So that will be the next major event.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I got a message from @Clockwerk50 asking the same thing, so I'll copy and paste my reply to him here:

He got the cancer in his bladder removed, had to wear a catheter for a little while, and now just has to not do strenuous activity for a while.

He's going back in on Thursday to see if the cancer is anywhere outside of his bladder, and my mom wants a 2nd opinion from another specialist, just to be sure. So that will be the next major event.

Good stuff. Hopefully everything comes back clear on Thursday and he has a speedy recovery.

 

[BPH]

Got a positive update.

Thursday's appointment went well. From what we can tell, all the cancer in his bladder has been removed, and it has not spread outside of his bladder. Additionally, what they originally thought was stage 3 is closer to stage 1 or 2. The doctor DID remark that the mass he removed was 11cm, which is the largest he's ever seen.

He'll have to go back in about a month to make sure nothing's come back, and will once again need a catheter. But otherwise, the doctor said this was the best outcome short of the cancer being benign.