I got to know a girl in Zambia, what's the best way for her to relocate to the US?

[NiHaoMike]

A while back, I got to know a software engineering girl in Zambia, who is going to be finishing her grad school by the end of this year. I have plans to meet up in person some time during the summer. If all goes well, she plans to relocate to the US in order to live together with me.

As far as I'm aware, the options are:
* Get a K-1 visa for her to enter the US, then get married in the US.
* Get married in Zambia, then get a CR-1 visa for her to relocate to the US.
* Both of us relocate to some other country. That's obviously a huge undertaking so it would be a last resort if the US refuses to give her a visa for some reason. (As far as I'm aware, there's next to no good paying tech jobs in Zambia so relocating there doesn't look like a good option.)

Which option would be better? Does anyone have experience related to that, specifically a US Citizen marrying a foreigner and bringing him/her into the US?

 

[BPH]

I encourage you to watch a few episodes of 90 Day Fiance before you make this decision, while also researching what became of those couples afterwards.

 

[Gamisch]

It must be me, but I don't get this. Why go through all of this bs just to do a coin flip on luck?

Again, all personal opinions. But it reeks of desperation. Use that money to improve your own life and keep your options open instead of taking on such a HUGE burden.

I swear mid to end 30's is the most dangerous time for a man to make decisions regarding relationships. Most men around this age are willing to throw a hailmary in the name of "love".

 

[Bingo-Player]

Very complicated and expensive process not done it in USA so can't give specifics

But going through it in AUS now and it's intense

 

[MatureDJ]

It must be me, but I don't get this. Why go through all of this bs just to do a coin flip on luck?

Again, all personal opinions. But it reeks of desperation. Use that money to improve your own life and keep your options open instead of taking on such a HUGE burden.

I swear mid to end 30's is the most dangerous time for a man to make decisions regarding relationships. Most men around this age are willing to throw a hailmary in the name of "love".

So you are saying that all Passport Bros are throwing a "Hail Mary"?

 

[Gamisch]

So you are saying that all Passport Bros are throwing a "Hail Mary"?

That's exactly what I'm saying.

I'd even say that women from poor regions are even more battle- hardened than western women. More ruthless, less sympathetic and less merciful when shyte has to hit the fan.

Huge, huge gamble and not worth it imo.bget some local p00sy and call it a day.

 

[Plinco]

A while back, I got to know a software engineering girl in Zambia, who is going to be finishing her grad school by the end of this year. I have plans to meet up in person some time during the summer. If all goes well, she plans to relocate to the US in order to live together with me.

As far as I'm aware, the options are:
* Get a K-1 visa for her to enter the US, then get married in the US.
* Get married in Zambia, then get a CR-1 visa for her to relocate to the US.
* Both of us relocate to some other country. That's obviously a huge undertaking so it would be a last resort if the US refuses to give her a visa for some reason. (As far as I'm aware, there's next to no good paying tech jobs in Zambia so relocating there doesn't look like a good option.)

Which option would be better? Does anyone have experience related to that, specifically a US Citizen marrying a foreigner and bringing him/her into the US?

Meet her in person before committing to anything. In the meantime, have your eyes on other women.

 

[Hal9000]

So you've never even met and she's already planning on moving in with you here in the US? Seems like a terrible idea.

 

[plumber]

A while back, I got to know a software engineering girl in Zambia, who is going to be finishing her grad school by the end of this year. I have plans to meet up in person some time during the summer. If all goes well, she plans to relocate to the US in order to live together with me.

As far as I'm aware, the options are:
* Get a K-1 visa for her to enter the US, then get married in the US.
* Get married in Zambia, then get a CR-1 visa for her to relocate to the US.
* Both of us relocate to some other country. That's obviously a huge undertaking so it would be a last resort if the US refuses to give her a visa for some reason. (As far as I'm aware, there's next to no good paying tech jobs in Zambia so relocating there doesn't look like a good option.)

Which option would be better? Does anyone have experience related to that, specifically a US Citizen marrying a foreigner and bringing him/her into the US?

go meet her in person before investing much time and or money. it can be good and well, also can be a really bad scam... you can not know until you go take a look. spend some time, have fun and make a vacation of it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This sounds like a "Desperate Dudes do Desperate Things" situation waiting to happen.

 

[plumber]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

I'd even say that women from poor regions are even more battle- hardened than western women. More ruthless, less sympathetic and less merciful when shyte has to hit the fan.

Huge, huge gamble and not worth it imo.bget some local p00sy and call it a day.

most women are designed the same. the difference is how the laws are setup in different places. some places favor men, other places favor women. it makes a difference.

usually the issue is not finding a woman, it is finding a woman that looks good enough. the exchange rate moves the better looks into range. and that, is the bottom line. when you view it as a math problem, it makes sense. either get ugly if you are lacking or go further and get cute. we can talk all day about what lacking means, but talk does not solve it. going further can solve it.

 

[viking22]

Yeah I think you just cannot trust this woman's motives.

Moving to the USA is clearly a fantastic career move for her and marrying you would enable her to achieve that dream.

Women are very good actresses quite capable of faking feelings to facilitate transactional relationships that benefit them.

 

[Clockwerk50]

A woman who is very casual about her sexual partners is similar to a man who gives his attention, commitment, and resources frequently without discernment.

 

[Gamisch]

Yeah I think you just cannot trust this woman's motives.

Moving to the USA is clearly a fantastic career move for her and marrying you would enable her to achieve that dream.

Women are very good actresses quite capable of faking feelings to facilitate transactional relationships that benefit them.

The more I understand about life the more I sympathize with women who take men to the cleaners.

If a man thinks he can shortcut his way to cheap and easy p00sy, his rude awakening will be well deserved and women know this all too well. She knows when a man "ain't that guy" and thus had to fly over 12 hours and wait for years of administrative hassle just to get some in-house poon.

After she is assimilated in her new country, she will liberate herself and date who she really wants.

Still a fair deal...

 

[plumber]

The more I understand about life the more I sympathize with women who take men to the cleaners.

If a man thinks he can shortcut his way to cheap and easy p00sy, his rude awakening will be well deserved and women know this all too well. She knows when a man "ain't that guy" and thus had to fly over 12 hours and wait for years of administrative hassle just to get some in-house poon.

After she is assimilated in her new country, she will liberate herself and date who she really wants.

Still a fair deal...

there is more then one way to the end. there are plenty of disaster cases, but not more than from other paths. some of the situations work out really well. I see it all the time. I also see the disaster cases... some of the women have a half dozen men sending them money... others dump the guy same day she gets offcial, others cheat the guy first day and every day. on the other side there are many that behave reasonably well.

you don't hear much about the cases that go well, only the disasters.

what you tell about the disasters is the same for a woman sourced from any location including next door.

your right, the women know and often plan it all out. my best guess is that its about 50/50 with half being scammer and half just looking for life improvement. from the life improvment set, a smart guy can filter out and find a better chance and higher smv than from next door.

the key still is the guy. he must understand. the entire path is really interesting and added another layer of learning and understanding to any man. the men that are lower svm for a variety of reasons, I always tell them to not bring the girl to his country. its hard for him if he brings her and her smv is three times what his is. its not going to work for long.

 

[NiHaoMike]

Meet her in person before committing to anything. In the meantime, have your eyes on other women.

I have to know which option to go with so I would know what to do if it ends up working out.

Yeah I think you just cannot trust this woman's motives.

Moving to the USA is clearly a fantastic career move for her and marrying you would enable her to achieve that dream.

Women are very good actresses quite capable of faking feelings to facilitate transactional relationships that benefit them.

Based on the very many video chats I did with her, I have a pretty high confidence that she truly is knowledgeable about software engineering (and a lot of other things) and not faking it.

After she is assimilated in her new country, she will liberate herself and date who she really wants.

She's already 32 so limited opportunity for her to do that. Also, as I understand, if she breaks up within 2 years of entering the US, the US government takes a very dim view of that and could force her to go back.

 

[Plinco]

I have to know which option to go with so I would know what to do if it ends up working out.

I can see that you're already showing investment in a woman who you don't know.

 

[intricate design]

Woah slow down

we need details, forget the computer engineering stuff

are you both black? whats the age gap like?

you’re pretty smooth. you met this woman online? Have you met in person? Have you been intimate?

this is really slick pick up artist stuff for an American

 

[NiHaoMike]

I can see that you're already showing investment in a woman who you don't know.

Once I do meet up and get to really know her well, I'll have to know what to do if it works. If it doesn't work, then I just have a nice vacation and that's it.

Woah slow down

we need details, forget the computer engineering stuff

are you both black? whats the age gap like?

you’re pretty smooth. you met this woman online? Have you met in person? Have you been intimate?

this is really slick pick up artist stuff for an American

Got to know her through social media. She's native Zambian and I'm Chinese. She's 32 and I'm 37 for an age gap of about 5 years. She's OK with all that.
As mentioned in the first post, I plan to meet up sometime during the summer.

 

[intricate design]

Wow
so you never met up?

you live in China? Wow!
what dating app did you meet her on?

so she’s dark black and you are Chinese?

perhaps I’m reading this wrong but it sounds like you’re just connecting with some babe online and that’s cool but

this stuff is hot though. Is she a hot skinny black girl from Africa? This stuff is interesting

but it seems a long shot