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[BackInTheGame78]

The other thing is to know your lane. You are an intellectual man. Therefore you are likely going to find intellectual girls more mentally engaging. If that is true then you need to figure out two things:

1. What kind of woman is your target market?

2. Where do that type of women hang out/what kind of activities does that type woman enjoy.

Maybe you like girls who are engineering geeks. Ok. Where do engineering geeks hang out & what do they enjoy? Say a robotics competition (for example).

See how specific that is? Its just an example but you get my drift.....

Yes this is another critical thing many guys miss. You have to know what you are looking for before you can actually find it.

It would be like just going out and saying I want to get a job without knowing what type of job you want, what skills you actually have that are relevant to the job and then going on tons of interviews where you have no chance of either side being a good fit for one another because you are a fast food worker applying for a NASA Engineering position.

 

[zekko]

It's trial and error on dates where you keep things that work regularly and you throw out things that don't work regularly and then you keep refining and refining until you have a basic cookie cutter starting point that works more often than not and you adapt it to individual women based on the patterns you have seen with similar women that worked prior.

There's no substitution for experience.

 

[Plinco]

You are an intellectual man. Therefore you are likely going to find intellectual girls more mentally engaging.

Not necessarily. Sometimes I like intellectual women and sometimes I don't. I'm attracted to high energy levels and cheerfulness.

There's no substitution for experience.

Correct. I always say observations > theory

Which points to whatever you are currently doing is not working and it's up to you to start analyzing and adjusting things.

If you are going to keep failing your goal should be to continuously fail differently, not the same way over and over again doing the same things.

Unsure how much of this you are already doing or not doing, but this would be a great starting point to consider.

The linchpin of my strategy is to be really good at cold approaching. Unfortunately I can go out in the day time for hours without seeing any women who are worth my time. The only places I see a concentration of the women I like are on college campuses, the gym, and one local spot on Thursday and Friday nights. To rack up a ton of approaches, I'd have to spend a weekend in Orlando, which is about two hours away from me, to get enough experience quickly.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The second pic you DM'd me, you resemble the actor Liev Schreiber. Has anyone ever told you that?

Face, hair, clothes, style. Can you see it?

You definitely need to display more confidence and internal validation, it'll make a big difference.



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I said he looks like Matthew McConaughey.

Nonetheless, him being a tanned guy in Florida, coupled with his demeanor, gives me the impression that he could be a snowbird, a retiree, or one of those men who spends all their time on a boat.

IMO, I’d say OP would attract his target market more if he aimed to look like James Marsden/Zac Efron/James Franco, or if he got jacked and became something more like Sam Worthington/Alan Ritchson.

 

[sevbucmash]

Bro. Vladimir Zhirinovsky "predicted" is a stretch here, he was a jew (he died shortly after SMO began), that's up there with the "world elite" Lubavitch, Rothschilds, etc. The world shabad sect. Basically Zhirinovsky "predicted" a lot of things, which just happened to come true. He had access to it all so he knew a thing or two. Here is on Iran & U.S. war, https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVTEcCziA0g/
The Scoop: to weaken China, U.S. hits Iran, which acts as detonator, Iran hits gulf states. Barrel goes up to $300. Chinese and European economies don't endure. Then migrants from Iran flee north and weaken Russia.

Year was 2012. Amazing visionary!

As far as the look. Well, you're a 7. Lighting sucks. You have to invest in lighting. Microphone appears to be none existent, something build in. Work on sound and on lighting. Maybe some studio decor. LED's and stuff. But as far as the look, 7 out of 10. (just need to present it right on video)

Now. This subject matter does not work on zionist occupied platforms like YT, Instagram, FB, etc. Algorithm is not going to push you. Algorithm is going to punish you. So you have to use these platforms as secondaries. Your primary should be Telegram.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Not necessarily. Sometimes I like intellectual women and sometimes I don't. I'm attracted to high energy levels and cheerfulness.



Correct. I always say observations > theory



The linchpin of my strategy is to be really good at cold approaching. Unfortunately I can go out in the day time for hours without seeing any women who are worth my time. The only places I see a concentration of the women I like are on college campuses, the gym, and one local spot on Thursday and Friday nights. To rack up a ton of approaches, I'd have to spend a weekend in Orlando, which is about two hours away from me, to get enough experience quickly.

That's the mistake you are making. If your goal is to become good at conversing and cold approaching, it doesn't matter who the target is.

Your goal should be to approach anyone you meet that's a female and learn how to start a conversation that keeps them engaged and interested.

This goes back to time on task. You are greatly limiting the opportunities to improve at the bottleneck of the process, which is the cold approach itself.

Whether or not you have any interests in a woman is irrelevant to becoming good at this overall, which is going to take a lot of time and a lot of practice.

If you are a trying to become a great chef, you aren't going to only cook in a fancy restaurant and pass up opportunities to hone your skills in other places...cooking at home, for friends, family, etc...you are going to take advantage of those opportunities to try different things, new recipes, cooking techniques, etc so that when you get your opportunity in a fancy restaurant you are going to have the skills needed to succeed and not crash and burn repeatedly.

 

[Plinco]

That's the mistake you are making. If your goal is to become good at conversing and cold approaching, it doesn't matter who the target is.

Your goal should be to approach anyone you meet that's a female and learn how to start a conversation that keeps them engaged and interested.

This goes back to time on task. You are greatly limiting the opportunities to improve at the bottleneck of the process, which is the cold approach itself.

Whether or not you have any interests in a woman is irrelevant to becoming good at this overall, which is going to take a lot of time and a lot of practice.

If you are a trying to become a great chef, you aren't going to only cook in a fancy restaurant and pass up opportunities to hone your skills in other places...cooking at home, for friends, family, etc...you are going to take advantage of those opportunities to try different things, new recipes, cooking techniques, etc so that when you get your opportunity in a fancy restaurant you are going to have the skills needed to succeed and not crash and burn repeatedly.

That's actually a very good point. I do converse with strangers when I'm out and about and not too much in a hurry, or when I'm dancing on Thursday nights. However you're absolutely right, I do create bottle necks, maybe through my own hubris.

 

[Plinco]

Bro. Vladimir Zhirinovsky "predicted" is a stretch here, he was a jew (he died shortly after SMO began), that's up there with the "world elite" Lubavitch, Rothschilds, etc. The world shabad sect. Basically Zhirinovsky "predicted" a lot of things, which just happened to come true. He had access to it all so he knew a thing or two. Here is on Iran & U.S. war, https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVTEcCziA0g/
The Scoop: to weaken China, U.S. hits Iran, which acts as detonator, Iran hits gulf states. Barrel goes up to $300. Chinese and European economies don't endure. Then migrants from Iran flee north and weaken Russia.

Year was 2012. Amazing visionary!

As far as the look. Well, you're a 7. Lighting sucks. You have to invest in lighting. Microphone appears to be none existent, something build in. Work on sound and on lighting. Maybe some studio decor. LED's and stuff. But as far as the look, 7 out of 10. (just need to present it right on video)

Now. This subject matter does not work on zionist occupied platforms like YT, Instagram, FB, etc. Algorithm is not going to push you. Algorithm is going to punish you. So you have to use these platforms as secondaries. Your primary should be Telegram.

I do have a good microphone but I don't use it.

I used to have a much bigger following on youtube until my channel was taken down in late 2020. Since then I'm lucky to get a hundred views on any of my videos.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I do have a good microphone but I don't use it.

I used to have a much bigger following on youtube until my channel was taken down in late 2020. Since then I'm lucky to get a hundred views on any of my videos.

I have no idea what you look like, but I wanted to say, I have seen so many ugly ass guys who are overflowing with confidence and just slay with women. I've lost girls to guys who look like Shrek. Moral of the story is that even the slightest concern about your looks only holds you back.

 

[plumber]

The world is a big place. If you sit next to chad at the bar.... its going to be difficult. Go to a different bar where you are chad. In my demographic you would have a line to filter of any age you want. Your only question would be how to manage the flow and how to stay out of conflict because of that.

The other thing that often gets missed is you need male friends. If you don't have any this is a difficult thing to solve. But solve that and it generally leads right into more women. The lone wolf play does not work for non wolfs.... being a wolf is genetic not learned.

 

[pipeman84]

I've started to question myself more after seeing that I only had one date from 96 approaches last year. If there's nothing wrong with the way I look, then I feel relieved. The rest of it I can control, besides my age.

I don't think it's anything wrong with your looks. You have an intellectual vibe about you (and the serious topics of the videos strengthen this impression).

The issue 100% is this: you're a 42yrs old man cold approaching early 20s women which is creepy and bound to fail.

 

[Plinco]

I don't think it's anything wrong with your looks. You have an intellectual vibe about you (and the serious topics of the videos strengthen this impression).

The issue 100% is this: you're a 42yrs old man cold approaching early 20s women which is creepy and bound to fail.

So the question is, what do I have to do to attract the girls less than half my age. Social expectations can go to hell.

 

[Plinco]

I said he looks like Matthew McConaughey.

Nonetheless, him being a tanned guy in Florida, coupled with his demeanor, gives me the impression that he could be a snowbird, a retiree, or one of those men who spends all their time on a boat.

IMO, I’d say OP would attract his target market more if he aimed to look like James Marsden/Zac Efron/James Franco, or if he got jacked and became something more like Sam Worthington/Alan Ritchson.

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So a clean look, like styled hair and dressed nicely. That was actually @BPH advice as well. I was going for an approximation to the Matthew McConaughey look, but instead I should go for the sharper, cleaner look.

And then after that, a lot of cold approaching.

 

[BPH]

So the question is, what do I have to do to attract the girls less than half my age. Social expectations can go to hell.

We've talked about this a lot in the time we've worked together, but I'll summarize it here for you:

1. You want to do things your way, rather than take the advice you ask for
2. We'd made some stylistic improvements, which you haven't stuck with
3. You tend to go into interview mode during every approach

But this is your biggest problem:

1. YOU DON'T APPROACH ENOUGH WOMEN

Ask @nicksaiz65 how many women he would approach per night when he went out. You need to go out of your way to spend a reasonable amount of time talking to women to get the result you're looking for. It will not happen if you only spent 30 minutes at a bar and talk to 1 girl every weekend, and maybe 1 or 2 women in a grocery store per week.

I believe this approach is your ONLY avenue.

You are not going to compete with younger guys in the looks department. You do not have a social media presence or any level of fame or status that can be showcased beyond the fact that you own your business (which I've told you before that you SHOULD showcase). There is nothing that is bringing these girls to YOU, so you have to go to THEM.

And you have to overcompensate in some department to be an attractive enough candidate that a younger woman will overlook societal norms and expectations, along with the ease and convenience of attracting somebody closer to her age in her immediate vicinity at college.

From a purely looks perspective, I think you're about a 5.

I think a lot of people are blowing smoke up your a** to be polite here, and I don't think it's doing you any favors, because they're basically all telling you "you're fine" and you're still left wondering where the disconnect is.

You're not unattractive, but you're not particularly attractive either, and you HAVE TO BE particularly attractive to do what you want to do. I think you can and should style your hair better, dress sharper with clothes that fit you well, and continue going to the gym to work on your physique.

That's my tough love/2 cents. I think being honest with yourself is the only way to improve.

 

[Plinco]

I think a lot of people are blowing smoke up your a** to be polite here, and I don't think it's doing you any favors, because they're basically all telling you "you're fine" and you're still left wondering where the disconnect is.

That's what I was thinking through this thread. I used to be a lot more attractive pre-covid, but the stress and lack of sleep messed me up pretty bad, made me look a lot older. I think you're coming from a perspective that understands me a bit better than everyone else here. I agree 100% that I'm not attractive enough yet. That's where I'm going but I need to do everything that's within my control.

1. You want to do things your way, rather than take the advice you ask for
2. We'd made some stylistic improvements, which you haven't stuck with
3. You tend to go into interview mode during every approach

We are getting there.

 

[pipeman84]

I think a lot of people are blowing smoke up your a** to be polite here, and I don't think it's doing you any favors, because they're basically all telling you "you're fine" and you're still left wondering where the disconnect is.

You're not unattractive, but you're not particularly attractive either, and you HAVE TO BE particularly attractive to do what you want to do. I think you can and should style your hair better, dress sharper with clothes that fit you well, and continue going to the gym to work on your physique.

That's my tough love/2 cents. I think being honest with yourself is the only way to improve.

There's nothing wrong with his face, isn't obese, he's articulate, doesn't give off bad/angry man/loser vibes.
The elephant in the room here is the cold approaching. If he was meeting women in his target age range via an organic way and still couldn't get anything off the ground with them, THEN you could look into money/status/personality to see where the problem lies.

You yourself said that girls you approach in college bars go cold on you (despite a good start) when they find out your age. And you're what, 10yrs younger than Plinco?
So what's so surprising that girls of the same age approached by Plinco in the grocery/clothes store would just ignore him or try to get rid of him asap, thinking all the time something along the lines of 'what's with this weird old guy?'.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Imagine if you felt like a million bucks each day and know how to cultivate this state of mind each day, I doubt your appearance would matter compared to this aura. It’s really a vibe at the end of the day, ya gotta take a hard look in the mirror and examine your lifestyle, habits and addictions that’s preventing you from being the man you were destined to be. You can do this, this whole board is cheering for you.

 

[Plinco]

Imagine if you felt like a million bucks each day and know how to cultivate this state of mind each day, I doubt your appearance would matter compared to this aura. It’s really a vibe at the end of the day, ya gotta take a hard look in the mirror and examine your lifestyle, habits and addictions that’s preventing you from being the man you were destined to be. You can do this, this whole board is cheering for you.

That's a good point, and one I've said before. How you feel about yourself has a big impact on how you look.

From a purely looks perspective, I think you're about a 5.

here's another way to put it. I'm a 2/10 with my target range and a 7.5/10 with everyone else.

 

[BPH]

There's nothing wrong with his face, isn't obese, he's articulate, doesn't give off bad/angry man/loser vibes.

There's nothing glaringly wrong, but there's nothing so exceptional that he's gonna pull college girls when they can walk to the nearest frat party and have Chad Thundercock in Kappa Sig pipe her out.

I said 5, that is average, right in the middle, dictionary definition of the median.

Know what else the average man experiences? 24-31% of men in their early 20s haven't had sex in the past year.

Tack on another 20 years, and he's fighting an uphill battle.

There's a great book called Mindset: The New Psychology by Carol Dweck. She describes how it's not useful to tell people they're "perfect" because if they believe there's no room for improvement, yet they're still coming up short of a desired result, they won't seek to improve because they'll believe what everybody's been telling them - and that disconnect prevents growth.

You yourself said that girls you approach in college bars go cold on you (despite a good start) when they find out your age. And you're what, 10yrs younger than Plinco?
So what's so surprising that girls of the same age approached by Plinco in the grocery/clothes store would just ignore him or try to get rid of him asap, thinking all the time something along the lines of 'what's with this weird old guy?'.

That is correct, but the difference is I'd been working with @Plinco for several months, so you'll have to trust me when I say I have a better understanding of where things are going wrong than you would just by watching some of his YouTube videos.

I PREFER younger women, but hot is hot...the girl I saw Monday and Thursday this week was 26, the one from my recent lay report was 24. @Plinco strongly prefers younger women, and I have advised him of this difficulty, but he sees it simply as a challenge to overcome in order to prove others wrong - something I've also advised is not worth the effort if the goal is to spite others more than it is to achieve his version of happiness.

TL;DR I'm 6ft, 225lbs, good-looking, and extremely experienced with cold approach. If I am having all these problems with college-aged women, simply because I'm 10 years old, @Plinco is going to have significantly more problems when you double that number.

 

[BeExcellent]

There's nothing glaringly wrong, but there's nothing so exceptional that he's gonna pull college girls when they can walk to the nearest frat party and have Chad Thundercock in Kappa Sig pipe her out.

I said 5, that is average, right in the middle, dictionary definition of the median.

Know what else the average man experiences? 24-31% of men in their early 20s haven't had sex in the past year.

Tack on another 20 years, and he's fighting an uphill battle.

There's a great book called Mindset: The New Psychology by Carol Dweck. She describes how it's not useful to tell people they're "perfect" because if they believe there's no room for improvement, yet they're still coming up short of a desired result, they won't seek to improve because they'll believe what everybody's been telling them - and that disconnect prevents growth.



That is correct, but the difference is I'd been working with @Plinco for several months, so you'll have to trust me when I say I have a better understanding of where things are going wrong than you would just by watching some of his YouTube videos.

I PREFER younger women, but hot is hot...the girl I saw Monday and Thursday this week was 26, the one from my recent lay report was 24. @Plinco strongly prefers younger women, and I have advised him of this difficulty, but he sees it simply as a challenge to overcome in order to prove others wrong - something I've also advised is not worth the effort if the goal is to spite others more than it is to achieve his version of happiness.

TL;DR I'm 6ft, 225lbs, good-looking, and extremely experienced with cold approach. If I am having all these problems with college-aged women, simply because I'm 10 years old, @Plinco is going to have significantly more problems when you double that number.

I have met @BPH as some may know. His prospects are objectively much higher with girls 21-28 than @Plinco as he is good looking (an 8 is accurate), is in his early 30s, so much smaller age gap, has his physique on point, is at ease socially and well dressed. He has a young energy look, a sharp haircut and an attractive face & smile. My friend's daughter is 24 and expressed interest in @BPH but she was not his type although she is a thin attractive gal.

I do think a sharp haircut would do @Plinco some good as others have suggested. Either that or grow it long (but a short cut will have wider appeal than long hair)....

Let me ask a different question....What girls ARE showing interest in you @Plinco ? Some women are. Who?