Feeling like a Loser lately

[OngBak]

Ranting here and but advice also needed

I cant believe Im writing this. It could be potentially due to a Vitamin D or magnesium deficiency. Lately, I feel like I don’t belong in academia at all or anywhere. I’ve lost interest in working out and even feel repelled by people who do, which is weird for me since Im a strong advocate for healthy lifestyle + fitness. I don’t really understand what’s going on. I’ve also had suicidal thoughts, but I would never act on them, so don’t worry about that.

Academia itself is hard to deal with there are a lot of backstabbers, manipulative people and insecure individuals, including some professors. It is also hard to make friends, because majority of them are lazy, stupid and we have almost nothing in common. I genuinely feel like Im way to above average, that I hardly fit anywhere, does that make sense? I feel like I’m more meant to be self-employed or independent when it comes to career. I’ve never really fit into systems I don’t agree with. It’s been like that since I was a kid. I’ve always been rebellious and didn’t conform to things that don’t make sense to me.

Right now, I just feel lost. I’ve lost motivation, confidence basically everything that used to hold my self-esteem together. What is going on, what should i do, should i skip classes take a break, keep going as usual, do a spontaneous trip?

 

[Bible_Belt]

Don't fall into the trap of skipping class because you're bored. Part of what a degree program is testing is your ability to keep showing up every day.

 

[inquisitor]

I’ve lost interest in working out and even feel repelled by people who do, which is weird for me since Im a strong advocate for healthy lifestyle + fitness.

You're over the honeymoon phase. Welcome to reality, where anything you learn gets harder, and therefore, less motivating, over time.

Academia itself is hard to deal with there are a lot of backstabbers, manipulative people and insecure individuals, including some professors. It is also hard to make friends, because majority of them are lazy, stupid and we have almost nothing in common. I genuinely feel like Im way to above average, that I hardly fit anywhere, does that make sense? I feel like I’m more meant to be self-employed or independent when it comes to career. I’ve never really fit into systems I don’t agree with. It’s been like that since I was a kid. I’ve always been rebellious and didn’t conform to things that don’t make sense to me.

No, it's not hard. Who gives a sh!t about sh!tty people? Fúck them. Sure, help them out, but not too much because fúck them.

Lazy? Stupid? You're one to say. You don't have your lazy or stupid days? You egotistic ass.

Way above average? If you're so smart, why haven't you figured out any of the advice you need?

You have to be humble enough first to know that you're not perfect, that you're not the best, and that you'll always, ALWAYS, have something new to learn.

Whether you think you fit in or not, whether you agree with it all or not, whether you rebel or conform, you still have to work within the system if you want real, lasting change. The faster you move on from your reluctance, the faster you'll grow and achieve what you want, while helping other people in the process.

 

[OngBak]

Don't fall into the trap of skipping class because you're bored. Part of what a degree program is testing is your ability to keep showing up every day.

The Point is though i dont need to attend, in order to pass them. Im a quick learner, I could pass all of them even with a better grade when we wouldnt have attendance policy, im not joking at this point. We have attendance policy, but I could find a way out of it

 

[OngBak]

You're over the honeymoon phase. Welcome to reality, where anything you learn gets harder, and therefore, less motivating, over time.

No, it's not hard. Who gives a sh!t about sh!tty people? Fúck them. Sure, help them out, but not too much because fúck them.

Lazy? Stupid? You're one to say. You don't have your lazy or stupid days? You egotistic ass.

Way above average? If you're so smart, why haven't you figured any of the advice you need?

You have to be humble enough first to know that you're not perfect, that you're not the best, and that you'll always, ALWAYS, have something new to learn.

Whether you think you fit in or not, whether you agree with it all or not, whether you rebel or conform, you still have to work within the system if you want real, lasting change. The faster you move on from your reluctance, the faster you'll grow and achieve what you want, while helping other people in the process.

That’s who I am. I’ve been self-reflecting every single day for years, I even keep a journal about it. The problem is, most people don’t do that. They genuinely don’t care. And it shows it starts with something as basic as physique. How many people do you see who are truly fit, muscular, and take care of their health? Not many. Most won’t even try, despite the means and time they have. From my experience, the majority of people want to see you performing worse than them. Most People are insecure, it is more evident especially if you have Qualities that those People dont have.

Nobody’s perfect. Even if you’re above average, that fact alone doesn’t change your effort or mindset. But that’s not the point.

Lazy or stupid days? I haven’t had a single lazy day in the past seven years depending on how you define “lazy” and even then they were deserved. Stupid days, yes, but I learn from them. I see, over and over, people who don’t fix their mistakes and most of them never will. That, in my experience, is the majority. How do I know? Im very observant and strongly aware of my surroundings, learned how to read body language early on, which I not even once predicted wrong the past years.

I believe I just know to much, too much for my age (I know there is so many things to learn, thats not the point)

 

[Plinco]

That’s who I am. I’ve been self-reflecting every single day for years, I even keep a journal about it. The problem is, most people don’t do that. They genuinely don’t care. And it shows it starts with something as basic as physique. How many people do you see who are truly fit, muscular, and take care of their health? Not many. Most won’t even try, despite the means and time they have. From my experience, the majority of people want to see you performing worse than them. Most People are insecure, it is more evident especially if you have Qualities that those People dont have.

Nobody’s perfect. Even if you’re above average, that fact alone doesn’t change your effort or mindset. But that’s not the point.

Lazy or stupid days? I haven’t had a single lazy day in the past seven years depending on how you define “lazy” and even then they were deserved. Stupid days, yes, but I learn from them. I see, over and over, people who don’t fix their mistakes and most of them never will. That, in my experience, is the majority. How do I know? Im very observant and strongly aware of my surroundings, learned how to read body language early on, which I not even once predicted wrong the past years.

I believe I just know to much, too much for my age (I know there is so many things to learn, thats not the point)

Don't worry about other people. People generally don't care about you anyway. I find that I'm most potent when I focus on myself, regardless of what other people think, and I continue to better my best. The more responsibility you take, the more in control you will be.

 

[BPH]

@OngBak what do you want?

Not what you think you should want, or what you're doing because other people want it for you, but what do YOU want?

Because lately it seems like you're asking for advice, getting answers, then doing the opposite.

 

[corrector]

I ended up as a Real-Estate salesperson after University.

 

[OngBak]

@OngBak what do you want?

Not what you think you should want, or what you're doing because other people want it for you, but what do YOU want?

Because lately it seems like you're asking for advice, getting answers, then doing the opposite.

I dont know but few things that I genuinely want is freedom and justice and to expose the systems companies operate on. I’ve literally invented a system that makes toxic managers and employees ineffective, and the results are statistically significant (p < 0.0001).

I genuinely know a lot about how systems operate. It could be implemented in schools, governments, universities, companies, hospitals basically any organization that runs on structured hierarchies to neutralize toxicity and improve effectiveness. I do fear publishing it openly, but my system works and its bulletproof

 

[BackInTheGame78]

"Forces of evil in a bozo nightmare...
Ban all the music with a phony gas chamber...
'Cause one's got a weasel and the other's got a flag...
One's on the pole, shove the other in a bag...

With the rerun shows and the cocaine nose-job...
The daytime crap of the folksinger slob...
He hung himself with a guitar string...
A slab of turkey-neck and it's hanging from a pigeon wing...

You can't write if you can't relate...
Trade the cash for the beef for the body for the hate...
And my time is a piece of wax falling on a termite....
That's choking on the splinters..."

 

[BPH]

but my system works and its bulletproof

Nothing is bulletproof. Nothing has value until the market decides its value - with their wallets.

I tried building a tool that allowed mortgage loan officers to run their own ads and compile a CRM complete with a built-in website and funnel. I talked to dozens of MLOs on LinkedIn, told them what I was building, asked them for feedback, and the reception was overwhelmingly: "This sounds great, yeah, I'd be very interested in that".

Built it, not a single one bought.

Or how about free money? Would you like free money?

I was a referral partner with a financial company that got businesses an employee retention credit for paying their employees' wages during the pandemic shutdowns. This company would find out what they're entitled to, file for the credit while remaining compliant, and this service did not cost anything upfront - their payment was a percentage of the refund amount.

I ran ads, cold-called, and walked around local shopping plazas for hours and hours. Most people thought it was a scam, or had somebody else who was gonna do it, or were told they wouldn't qualify by their accountant, or even started shopping for a cheaper service once I told them about it.

I referred 2 businesses, one of which got a very large payout where I received a $5,000 check, but didn't see a penny of it until just last year.

This is why I generally don't get excited about things. I'm not excited for something that's SUPPOSED to/WILL happen...I'm only excited when it actually IS happening.

I dont know but few things that I genuinely want is freedom and justice and to expose the systems companies operate on.

Everything's f***ed, but you can't change the systems. We have streamers on Kick committing literal crimes while being treated as celebrities. We have random women on OnlyFans making more money than professional athletes.

Focus on the things you have control over.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I ended up as a Real-Estate salesperson after University.

I had a full scholarship to an expensive private school, but it was so boring I would skip class to walk to the courthouse and research mortgage foreclosures. I bought a house at age 21 with all investor money, but at the same time got a D in an honors class because I forgot to go to the final exam. I quit college for a while after that. I still have dreams about forgetting classes I'm enrolled in.

 

[OngBak]

Nothing is bulletproof. Nothing has value until the market decides its value - with their wallets.

I tried building a tool that allowed mortgage loan officers to run their own ads and compile a CRM complete with a built-in website and funnel. I talked to dozens of MLOs on LinkedIn, told them what I was building, asked them for feedback, and the reception was overwhelmingly: "This sounds great, yeah, I'd be very interested in that".

Built it, not a single one bought.

Or how about free money? Would you like free money?

I was a referral partner with a financial company that got businesses an employee retention credit for paying their employees' wages during the pandemic shutdowns. This company would find out what they're entitled to, file for the credit while remaining compliant, and this service did not cost anything upfront - their payment was a percentage of the refund amount.

I ran ads, cold-called, and walked around local shopping plazas for hours and hours. Most people thought it was a scam, or had somebody else who was gonna do it, or were told they wouldn't qualify by their accountant, or even started shopping for a cheaper service once I told them about it.

I referred 2 businesses, one of which got a very large payout where I received a $5,000 check, but didn't see a penny of it until just last year.

This is why I generally don't get excited about things. I'm not excited for something that's SUPPOSED to/WILL happen...I'm only excited when it actually IS happening.



Everything's f***ed, but you can't change the systems. We have streamers on Kick committing literal crimes while being treated as celebrities. We have random women on OnlyFans making more money than professional athletes.

Focus on the things you have control over.

My System is indeed bulletproof, because it is already applied and tested in a way that would almost shutdown many Consulting Companies. I can also assure you that my system indeed has a Value. Consulting Companies would buy the rights of my project for millions, it is common and happening since they would lose more than Millions when I f.e publish it. Im former MBB employee as well, that adds to credibility

But you are right about these retarded Influences, BUT mostly follow Business Principles, so at some point they had the right contact man to grow, its not solo work most of the time when it comes to these influencers and you see them growing. I know that for sure, I know exactly what tactics, techniques, methods they are using and in itself how their System works, thats not learned quickly and easily, its told/consulted by someone - networking etc.. The thing is though, I dont care about money, I learned early on that money doesn't make one happy. Money is the last thing in my mind. I care about meaningful impact.

 

[BPH]

My System is indeed bulletproof, because it is already applied and tested in a way that would almost shutdown many Consulting Companies. I can also assure you that my system indeed has a Value. Consulting Companies would buy the rights of my project for millions, it is common and happening since they would lose more than Millions when I f.e publish it. Im former MBB employee as well, that adds to credibility

Look at your language. This is all future-speak. Your system has no value until it does.

However, that's not what this is about...

But you are right about these retarded Influences, BUT mostly follow Business Principles, so at some point they had the right contact man to grow, its not solo work most of the time when it comes to these influencers and you see them growing.

Most of them are a flash in the pan and will be gone just as quickly as they came.

Andrew Tate was the most Googled man in the world at one point. Now he's hard to take seriously, especially after losing that boxing match to that Too Hot to Handle guy despite constantly referring to how he was a world champion kickboxer.

Stevewilldoit put NELK on the map and became even more popular than the organization as a whole. However, he's also a serial gambler, drug abuser, and is in crippling financial debt to portray the lifestyle he does.

I assume the same will happen to the likes of Clavicular if he keeps committing crimes on camera...

Money is the last thing in my mind. I care about meaningful impact.

Well, you're gonna need money to make a meaningful impact...

 

[OngBak]

Look at your language. This is all future-speak. Your system has no value until it does.

However, that's not what this is about...



Most of them are a flash in the pan and will be gone just as quickly as they came.

Andrew Tate was the most Googled man in the world at one point. Now he's hard to take seriously, especially after losing that boxing match to that Too Hot to Handle guy despite constantly referring to how he was a world champion kickboxer.

Stevewilldoit put NELK on the map and became even more popular than the organization as a whole. However, he's also a serial gambler, drug abuser, and is in crippling financial debt to portray the lifestyle he does.

I assume the same will happen to the likes of Clavicular if he keeps committing crimes on camera...



Well, you're gonna need money to make a meaningful impact...

My systemic framework is original though. It didnt exist before. Mine is based on physics, Math, Psychology, Sociology and Business. It is a research Project with a DOI, that already overshadows highly relevant Business Experts that you know from University + Research + Study Guides, It is on + above their Level. As I said, it is indeed a very dangerous project. That alone is enough for Consulting Companies to know to immediately buy it, without questioning it when its factual true and accordingly handled in the contract.

Believe me Andrew Tate, Stevewilldoit and Clavicular even if I dont like them much, they know exactly what they are doing. If they want to they can go Viral again. They have a valuable Network, Andrew tate knows the game very well. Whatever he is doing even if its a loss live in tv, its probably wanted

 

[BPH]

My systemic framework is original though. It didnt exist before. Mine is based on physics, Math, Psychology, Sociology and Business. It is a research Project with a DOI, that already overshadows highly relevant Business Experts that you know from University + Research + Study Guides, It is on + above their Level. As I said, it is indeed a very dangerous project. That alone is enough for Consulting Companies to know to immediately buy it, without questioning it when its factual true and accordingly handled in the contract.

Believe me Andrew Tate, Stevewilldoit and Clavicular even if I dont like them much, they know exactly what they are doing. If they want to they can go Viral again. They have a valuable Network, Andrew tate knows the game very well. Whatever he is doing even if its a loss live in tv, its probably wanted

I think we're getting off topic...

I'm asking what you want, so you can take a look in the mirror and be honest with yourself about how you're spending your time.

Here, I'll go first:

1. I want to regularly sleep with attractive women, without necessitating a relationship
   1. How? Focus on what I have control over to constantly be in a state of improvement so that I am the type of man a very attractive woman would want to sleep with, even if we aren't exclusively together. Get better at approaching, maintaining conversation, learning to read social cues, texting, grooming, working out, wearing well-fitted clothes, being good at kissing and other bedroom activities, and displaying confidence, but not to the point of taking anything too seriously or being emotional, etc.
2. I want to be healthy, strong, fit, and physically attractive
   1. How? Working out 5 times per week for about 1-2 hours per day. Doing cardio 5 times per week for 20 minutes per day. Eating the same 6 foods every day at the same time to maintain a healthy diet. Limiting cheat meals and junk food to once per week, and drinking low-sugar alcohol with diet mixers. Not doing dumb and risky sh** that would potentially injure me. Not skipping workouts simply because I "don't feel like it".
3. I want to make a lot of money
   1. How? Realize that almost nobody becomes extremely wealthy by working for somebody else. Also realizing that even if they do, they instead sacrifice so much time that they don't get to enjoy that money until they retire, and cannot fully enjoy that money. This led to me quitting my job, and multiple business ventures and failures, leading to my current attempt as it relates to coaching others on how to have better results with women.

Figure out what you want. Work backwards on how you're going to get there. Then allocate your time and effort towards activities that will progress you towards that goal.

 

[OngBak]

Short Update: I reflected after a quick sleep, I noticed the reason why I was largely insecure is because People outside + inside my environment, especially in academia + classmates try to make me insecure even though Im in right and objectively better then them in regards of the things we discuss in classes. This is a genuine self-reflection, and I almost fell for there manipulative attempts. The whole time I thought, I was the problem even though Im not. BUT one Problem is though Its hard to deal with their insecurity and even if you make friends (non of them even lift), they will backstab you, they will 100% backstab you since all of them want to get in any womans pants there. I also know that they are jealous and envious

 

[OngBak]

I think we're getting off topic...

I'm asking what you want, so you can take a look in the mirror and be honest with yourself about how you're spending your time.

Here, I'll go first:

1. I want to regularly sleep with attractive women, without necessitating a relationship
   1. How? Focus on what I have control over to constantly be in a state of improvement so that I am the type of man a very attractive woman would want to sleep with, even if we aren't exclusively together. Get better at approaching, maintaining conversation, learning to read social cues, texting, grooming, working out, wearing well-fitted clothes, being good at kissing and other bedroom activities, and displaying confidence, but not to the point of taking anything too seriously or being emotional, etc.
2. I want to be healthy, strong, fit, and physically attractive
   1. How? Working out 5 times per week for about 1-2 hours per day. Doing cardio 5 times per week for 20 minutes per day. Eating the same 6 foods every day at the same time to maintain a healthy diet. Limiting cheat meals and junk food to once per week, and drinking low-sugar alcohol with diet mixers. Not doing dumb and risky sh** that would potentially injure me. Not skipping workouts simply because I "don't feel like it".
3. I want to make a lot of money
   1. How? Realize that almost nobody becomes extremely wealthy by working for somebody else. Also realizing that even if they do, they instead sacrifice so much time that they don't get to enjoy that money until they retire, and cannot fully enjoy that money. This led to me quitting my job, and multiple business ventures and failures, leading to my current attempt as it relates to coaching others on how to have better results with women.

Figure out what you want. Work backwards on how you're going to get there. Then allocate your time and effort towards activities that will progress you towards that goal.

I did not read this, but will later after I have fully slept

 

[Clockwerk50]

1. You can find relief in the fact that you are not the only one who feels this way. As the thread linked below suggests, there are other people in the same boat. It’s hard to see everyone moving on with their lives and having fun while you are stuck there studying. Truthfully, it is part of the trial, process, rough stretch you have to get through that will develop into a thicker skin.
   
   

   25yo, medical student and a little depressed

   Hello guys, I am a young medical student from Brazil, I study in a public university and I'm poor and broke. I know this forum since I tried to read the book of pook a couple of years ago, but this is my first post ever here. The reason why I am posting here is simple: I want to be successful in...

   www.sosuave.net
   
   
2. I always see this graph when I’m working on projects, and it makes me laugh. Especially when I’m about 2/3 done, it gets kind of rough. That’s usually the point where everything feels the most frustrating before it starts coming together again. (I can’t find it, but this is something like this.)
   
   

 

[BPH]

Short Update: I reflected after a quick sleep, I noticed the reason why I was largely insecure is because People outside + inside my environment, especially in academia + classmates try to make me insecure even though Im in right and objectively better then them in regards of the things we discuss in classes. This is a genuine self-reflection, and I almost fell for there manipulative attempts. The whole time I thought, I was the problem even though Im not. BUT one Problem is though Its hard to deal with their insecurity and even if you make friends (non of them even lift), they will backstab you, they will 100% backstab you since all of them want to get in any womans pants there. I also know that they are jealous and envious

This doesn't sound right...

You seem to think that the cause of your unhappiness is how other people (supposedly) think about you.

Do you believe yourself to be narcissistic?

You describe that you believe yourself to be objectively correct and better than your peers. You think they're trying to somehow manipulate you, and that they, not you, are the problem. You sprinkle in that none of them "even lift", that you think they're out to backstab you, and that they are jealous and envious of you.

You also spent most of this thread trying to convince me your system is a sure thing, when that wasn't even the main topic of discussion.

I guarantee you that nobody is thinking that much about you...

Even if they were, other people's perception of you is beyond your control. That's why, again, you need to think about what makes YOU happy, and do that. NOT trying to prove others wrong.