Why do women love the idea of travel ?

[CaptFinnBad]

I think I differentiate travel into two categories...


1. Travel because why not. View it as a break, downtime. See things new, but it isn't an identity. Don't obsess over it. It's no big deal. Can take it or leave it.


2. Travel because not feeling settled or fulfilled in the everyday life the person has built. So travel is a little hit in an attempt to bring meaning to a life without purpose. It's almost used as an "escape" , avoiding responsibility, making it an identity to cling on too because real life isn't fulfilling for them.

Labelling travel as person growth or finding yourselves , indicates to me these individuals are lost.



Number 2. Gives me the "ick" in women. I just think to myself , she's probably miserable on the inside, not content in life and will always be searching for the next dopamine hit so she feels her life has meaning.


Just my own personal view on it

 

[Mike32ct]

Women’s profiles are typically 90% about travel; food and drink; and dogs lol.

Travel represents freedom, fun and status, so I can totally understand why women like it.

I’m not big long distance traveler. Domestic trips are enough for me.

Some people will go on and on nonstop about their trip to XYZ even when the rest of the group is clearly not interested in the conversation. I notice guys tend to do this more. Women typically have better social skills, quickly realize their conversation topic isn’t landing and change the subject.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Some of us just have it in our blood to travel. My Dad travelled all over the World. He's old now and says travel no longer interests him. I worked in the adventure travel industry and still love to travel. That my job provides travel is probably the only reason I haven't switched jobs yet. I'm middle aged and have a house. But have no real desire to 'set up a castle.' It's more of a resupply base.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Some of you guys are really pin headed. No it doesn't automatically mean a girl is a w h o r e, for crying out loud.

My sister just got back from Brazil and Argentina. Last summer she was in Croatia. With her two teenage children (18yr son, 13 year daughter). They have family in Croatia, and they are all fluent in Spanish so South America is easy. That sister has gone all over Europe, at times alone, and stays in convents. With actual nuns enforcing a 9pm curfew. Its cheaper and safer than many other ways to travel, men are not allowed at the convents.

Another sister went on an Antartica trip alone last Christmas, and she's a merchant mariner (used to be first mate on an oil rig, she's sailed through the Panama canal (not on the rig, lol, and when she graduated college I took her to Spain for 2 weeks, my treat...

My other sister loves to cruise. She and her family went back and forth to England (where they were on holiday for 4 weeks) on the QE2. They have been all over the world on cruises, as a couple, as a family, my sister alone, with sisters, etc. It's how they like to vacation.

I have been to Europe and South America a number of times and my husband and I also enjoy cruising and travel for his sport.

I am an older woman. Once my youngest finishes high school next year I might get a place in Europe and a place in South America and go between pied-a-terres. I am close to retirement and I might just see some stuff before I'm too old.

All this takes both time & money, obviously, but its a fascinating world we live in, why not explore?

Nothing inherently wrong with travel or the desire to do so. Transoceanic flights in coach suck, but I don't have enough means to overcome that, lol.

My husband and I enjoy having adventures together, not sure why some of y'all view it so negatively. It expands your perspective of the world & creates wonderful experiences that material things cannot.

I've honestly thought about cruising for a year or two because it's cheaper than living on land once you get into all the bonuses and perks with one cruise line for the frequent cruiser points, etc.

The last time I was on one we were talking to some people that worked on the ships and we asked why there were so many people who weren't going on the excursions and just hanging out and they told us it's because they essentially live on the ships and cruise back to back to back and have already seen all those places so they just hang out with the other people that do the same thing that they've become friend with.

They said that with the discounts and the amount of money you have without any house payment, car payment, insurance, food, gas, utility bills etc, it's actually cheaper for a lot of people to just keep booking back to back cruises where everything is included...

 

[BeExcellent]

I've honestly thought about cruising for a year or two because it's cheaper than living on land once you get into all the bonuses and perks with one cruise line for the frequent cruiser points, etc.

The last time I was on one we were talking to some people that worked on the ships and we asked why there were so many people who weren't going on the excursions and just hanging out and they told us it's because they essentially live on the ships and cruise back to back to back and have already seen all those places so they just hang out with the other people that do the same thing that they've become friend with.

They said that with the discounts and the amount of money you have without any house payment, car payment, insurance, food, gas, utility bills etc, it's actually cheaper for a lot of people to just keep booking back to back cruises where everything is included...

You could always dust off the turntables & go DJ at sea.......yeah I think its a cool lifestyle. Husband & I can both work remote too and the ships have good internet. So I'd certainly give that some thought.

 

[Slowhandluke]

All this takes both time & money, obviously, but its a fascinating world we live in, why not explore?

Because it takes TIME and money. On our death beds, would it be better to have wished to travel to more unknown lands or spend this time more with close friends and family?

Travel is a "bug".. and itch. A temporary "want". while traveling every now and then is ok, but to put "traveling" on a pedestal is just caving into the travel marketing companies. Just like how the automobile executives want people to think driving is more than an "experience".. something akin to nirvana.. slick advertisement, romantic themes, open roads , etc.. etc... its just marketing.. just like traveling.

Hotels, rental cars, cruise shipps.. foreign restaurant, airplane tickets, etc.. etc.. travel is more about commerce then about "opening your self to new experiences". Great, I get to be one of the many hordes of visitors going to Santorini.. or the Louve.. or Maya temples, etc.. etc.. its the cattle and prod. It's the waiting in line at immigration... its the over priced food, etc.. etc..

At the end of the day, traveling is better as a idea then in real life. I rather spend my limited time with things that are more important. Women who travel a lot and are willing to put up with all the traveling nonsense... we'll, that's a red flag..

Instead of traveling, perhaps time is better spent finding a partner? Going to a fancy restaurant in a foreign land while Chinese tourist get drunk and start talking loudly isnt going to keep them warm when these women are alone. Experiencing the slopes of the Swiss Alps isnt going to create a son or daughter that gets scared of the night and tugs on their pajamas asking to sleep with them.. what is more important to a young women? nobody has infinite time.

 

[BeExcellent]

Because it takes TIME and money. On our death beds, would it be better to have wished to travel to more unknown lands or spend this time more with close friends and family?

Travel is a "bug".. and itch. A temporary "want". while traveling every now and then is ok, but to put "traveling" on a pedestal is just caving into the travel marketing companies. Just like how the automobile executives want people to think driving is more than an "experience".. something akin to nirvana.. slick advertisement, romantic themes, open roads , etc.. etc... its just marketing.. just like traveling.

Hotels, rental cars, cruise shipps.. foreign restaurant, airplane tickets, etc.. etc.. travel is more about commerce then about "opening your self to new experiences". Great, I get to be one of the many hordes of visitors going to Santorini.. or the Louve.. or Maya temples, etc.. etc.. its the cattle and prod. It's the waiting in line at immigration... its the over priced food, etc.. etc..

At the end of the day, traveling is better as a idea then in real life. I rather spend my limited time with things that are more important. Women who travel a lot and are willing to put up with all the traveling nonsense... we'll, that's a red flag..

Instead of traveling, perhaps time is better spent finding a partner? Going to a fancy restaurant in a foreign land while Chinese tourist get drunk and start talking loudly isnt going to keep them warm when these women are alone. Experiencing the slopes of the Swiss Alps isnt going to create a son or daughter that gets scared of the night and tugs on their pajamas asking to sleep with them.. what is more important to a young women? nobody has infinite time.

You sound terribly bitter.

I don't do "hoardes" of tourists, lol. Travel is a wonderful thing, but to do it well you need to have accumulated enough wealth at a young enough age to enjoy it, and to be able to do it at a more exclusive level.

We ditched the cruise excursions, hired a private local driver & guide & did our own thing. We saw the ancient sites before the tour buses arrived, enjoyed it in peace & quiet, dropped in on a couple of tour groups to listen in a little, and took off to do other stuff. Saw things that the tours don't do, a more individual, curated type experience. And we have friends various places. Our friends have given wonderful advice about what is worth seeing, what isn't....

Once kids are grown I expect them to be adults and live their own lives. I like seeing them, but they were raised to launch, not to hang around me forever. They have deeply internalized this and each one has prepared through the teen years to do adulting as individuals. I was raised that way too.

There is also something wonderful about driving. But not if the only driving you ever do is to/from work in long rush hour commutes in a beater with no AC. Yeah that's no fun.

Driving is a blast if you can go do it somewhere scenic in a great automobile that isn't crowded. I might go for a drive shortly, and put the top down to enjoy the beautiful weather.

You guys need to understand that your individual experience is not everyone else's experience. I know plenty of men who love travel. But they all can afford to do it in a curated way.

What I do think is that women often list travel on dating profiles because they'd like to find a man who can afford and has the time for that more elevated lifestyle. So it can be a lifestyle question.

Sometimes that is coming from a place of wanting a man who understands the lifestyle she already enjoys, sometimes that is coming from a place of gold digging.

Buyer beware out there

 

[Slowhandluke]

You sound terribly bitter.

I don't do "hoardes" of tourists, lol. Travel is a wonderful thing, but to do it well you need to have accumulated enough wealth at a young enough age to enjoy it, and to be able to do it at a more exclusive level.

We ditched the cruise excursions, hired a private local driver & guide & did our own thing. We saw the ancient sites before the tour buses arrived, enjoyed it in peace & quiet, dropped in on a couple of tour groups to listen in a little, and took off to do other stuff. Saw things that the tours don't do, a more individual, curated type experience. And we have friends various places. Our friends have given wonderful advice about what is worth seeing, what isn't....

Once kids are grown I expect them to be adults and live their own lives. I like seeing them, but they were raised to launch, not to hang around me forever. They have deeply internalized this and each one has prepared through the teen years to do adulting as individuals. I was raised that way too.

There is also something wonderful about driving. But not if the only driving you ever do is to/from work in long rush hour commutes in a beater with no AC. Yeah that's no fun.

Driving is a blast if you can go do it somewhere scenic in a great automobile that isn't crowded. I might go for a drive shortly, and put the top down to enjoy the beautiful weather.

You guys need to understand that your individual experience is not everyone else's experience. I know plenty of men who love travel. But they all can afford to do it in a curated way.

What I do think is that women often list travel on dating profiles because they'd like to find a man who can afford and has the time for that more elevated lifestyle. So it can be a lifestyle question.

Sometimes that is coming from a place of wanting a man who understands the lifestyle she already enjoys, sometimes that is coming from a place of gold digging.

Buyer beware out there

For most people my age and older, I feel people want to fill a hole in their life with "traveling".

Me: What do you want to do when you retire?
Bob: we'll, I think i will travel.
Me: How about you Sally?
Sally: yeah same here. I never had time to visit x or y place, but now that I'm older and have money...

its just so low effort. It feels like work use to be a big part of people's lives, now they are either too old for it... or just dont want to work anymore or as much. They just put out the standard, "in going to travel". There's like this big hole in their lifestyle and they really dont know what to do with it. the kids have left... their friends either have kids of their own or their friends are still working. No time with old friends, but dont want to make new good friends..

Personally I dont want to ever retire and "travel". When I do have to retire, I want to fill my time with more consequential things... improve the world in a way... improve the lives of people closest to me. Yeah, I've been on vacations that were "higher end". but then you get surround by people that are "higher end" losing touch with reality imho. Whats the point? its just like filling up a hole with junk... things that are meaningless just to say you dont have an empty hole in the backyard.

I guess i am bitter. I know some smart people that are going to imho waste their time "traveling". Its like they have given up on life. Given up on making the world a better place for society. At least when they were focusing on their careers, they were helping the economy, doing something good for society.

Traveling is like prozac. It dulls ambition and takes away the excitement of really living.

As for young women trying to find Mr. prefect by going on fancy vacations. Red flag. If the woman is of any caliber, what prevents her from finding Mr. Perfect where she is now? in her own friends circle? Is she so "much better" then everyone else where she lives that she has to look abroad? Another red flag.

Lets not put traveling on a pedestal. It's not this grand idea that everyone should focus on and laud about... especially young women. They may or may not understand, but they have more important concerns.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Traveling, for me. Is experiencing 'otherness'. When I travel, I try and immerse myself. Try the food, drink, music etc. Before a trip I'll read any poems, literature or listen to music or watch a movie related to the location or by a local artisan. I visit local art and craft locations. Museums. Doesn't matter if it's as exotic (for me) as Spain or as local as Napa.
it helps that I am easily amused, am not cynical or jaded and like just about everything.

 

[BeExcellent]

So @Slowhandluke your indictment of travel is in favor of being a workaholic until you croak?

Listen. I have busted my ass for decades, lived under the principle of "delayed gratification" and my kids honestly paid a price for that hard work (Think of the song 'Cat's in the Cradle') in that I was often gone.

Now. My being gone earning a living did allow their dad to stay home full time, but I missed alot of their young lives which I can never get back.

The trade-off? My kids will receive the fruits of my hard work to help them along the journey, and I have taught them as much as I can to be smart about money; about life.....so hopefully they don't have to miss as much as I missed with them. And now I am going to enjoy and be grateful that, at long last, I am able to enjoy life myself on my own terms rather than endlessly sacrifice for everyone else. I am just a steward of what I have after all. I give things to my kids already, things I don't use, jewelry I don't wear, etc. I am blessed with friends, both new and longstanding....

I don't need to work like a dog until I die. I have raised quality young people, I chair a charitable foundation, I have contributed. I now want to experience this life & this world for at heart I have a wonderful curiosity, even at my age, lol.

It keeps me youthful. Truly.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Transoceanic flights in coach suck, but I don't have enough means to overcome that, lol.

Hard life you got there, miss.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Have a fantacy or aspirations or view it as the perfect life.

Not really a perfect life, but a life of means.

I would argue it stems from the same psychological place where many ladies shoot far above their weight when looking for dudes.

They want a six foot, six figure, six pack guy, etc.

@CaptFinnBad what is your intuition of how these ladies think they will accomplish this? On their own? Or some guy paying for it?

Either way, traveling is a lot of fun, and it costs money (depending), and saying you enjoy traveling signifies certain things about you and your life.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@BeExcellent "Another sister went on an Antartica trip alone last Christmas..."

And people accuse me(Not unjustifiably, albeit)of masochism

 

[BeExcellent]

@BeExcellent "Another sister went on an Antartica trip alone last Christmas..."

And people accuse me(Not unjustifiably, albeit)of masochism

Its funny. They have adventure outfitters so you basically take a cruise and go there. Her kids were with their dad & the ships officers were very accomodating. She enjoyed it. She had planned that trip 3 years in advance, lol.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Because it takes TIME and money. On our death beds, would it be better to have wished to travel to more unknown lands or spend this time more with close friends and family?

Travel is a "bug".. and itch. A temporary "want". while traveling every now and then is ok, but to put "traveling" on a pedestal is just caving into the travel marketing companies. Just like how the automobile executives want people to think driving is more than an "experience".. something akin to nirvana.. slick advertisement, romantic themes, open roads , etc.. etc... its just marketing.. just like traveling.

Hotels, rental cars, cruise shipps.. foreign restaurant, airplane tickets, etc.. etc.. travel is more about commerce then about "opening your self to new experiences". Great, I get to be one of the many hordes of visitors going to Santorini.. or the Louve.. or Maya temples, etc.. etc.. its the cattle and prod. It's the waiting in line at immigration... its the over priced food, etc.. etc..

At the end of the day, traveling is better as a idea then in real life. I rather spend my limited time with things that are more important. Women who travel a lot and are willing to put up with all the traveling nonsense... we'll, that's a red flag..

Instead of traveling, perhaps time is better spent finding a partner? Going to a fancy restaurant in a foreign land while Chinese tourist get drunk and start talking loudly isnt going to keep them warm when these women are alone. Experiencing the slopes of the Swiss Alps isnt going to create a son or daughter that gets scared of the night and tugs on their pajamas asking to sleep with them.. what is more important to a young women? nobody has infinite time.

You have 365 days in every year. If you can't figure out how to travel and spend time with friends and family without having to sacrifice one or the other you might have the worst time management skills of anyone I've ever met.

 

[Slowhandluke]

So @Slowhandluke your indictment of travel is in favor of being a workaholic until you croak?

Listen. I have busted my ass for decades, lived under the principle of "delayed gratification" and my kids honestly paid a price for that hard work (Think of the song 'Cat's in the Cradle') in that I was often gone.

Now. My being gone earning a living did allow their dad to stay home full time, but I missed alot of their young lives which I can never get back.

The trade-off? My kids will receive the fruits of my hard work to help them along the journey, and I have taught them as much as I can to be smart about money; about life.....so hopefully they don't have to miss as much as I missed with them. And now I am going to enjoy and be grateful that, at long last, I am able to enjoy life myself on my own terms rather than endlessly sacrifice for everyone else. I am just a steward of what I have after all. I give things to my kids already, things I don't use, jewelry I don't wear, etc. I am blessed with friends, both new and longstanding....

I don't need to work like a dog until I die. I have raised quality young people, I chair a charitable foundation, I have contributed. I now want to experience this life & this world for at heart I have a wonderful curiosity, even at my age, lol.

It keeps me youthful. Truly.

if one loves what they do, they will never work a day in their lives. When waren buffet buys a business and the owners get filthy rich, buffets notices that instead of taking the money and riding off into the sunset, these people usually continue to "work".

I guess I am lucky to like what i do for a living. I find meaning in it because it does provide value to society. A life without meaning is no life for me. Traveling does not provide meaning to me. Oh well, to each his own

You have 365 days in every year. If you can't figure out how to travel and spend time with friends and family without having to sacrifice one or the other you might have the worst time management skills of anyone I've ever met.

365 days is not a lot of time in a year for me. If i had 730 days instead, perhaps I can spend more time lolly gagging in some foreign land surround by people I do not know. I simply dont have time for such sentimentalities. Traveling is fun, but it should not be a goal in itself or a substitute for meaningful existence.

ps. that being said, I usually vacation in SE Asia twice a year. my background is similar to those in that area. I can also speak the language and have friends there.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

if one loves what they do, they will never work a day in their lives. When waren buffet buys a business and the owners get filthy rich, buffets notices that instead of taking the money and riding off into the sunset, these people usually continue to "work".

I guess I am lucky to like what i do for a living. I find meaning in it because it does provide value to society. A life without meaning is no life for me. Traveling does not provide meaning to me. Oh well, to each his own




365 days is not a lot of time in a year for me. If i had 730 days instead, perhaps I can spend more time lolly gagging in some foreign land surround by people I do not know. I simply dont have time for such sentimentalities. Traveling is fun, but it should not be a goal in itself or a substitute for meaningful existence.

ps. that being said, I usually vacation in SE Asia twice a year. my background is similar to those in that area. I can also speak the language and have friends there.

It's plenty of time, your problem is you waste far too much of it or you don't have a proper work-life balance. Railing against travel because you haven't set yourself up properly to enjoy it isn't anyone else's problem other than yours.

 

[The Duke]

Not everyone see's life thru the same filters and there is nothing wrong with that.

Traveling doesn't do much for me either, my thoughts align very closely with SlowhandLuke. I have the money and time, yet choose to do other things, like work and my hobbies.

Traveling is driven by the craving for novelty(experiencing different places, cultures) and those feel good dopamine hits that don't last long. This is why women that chase these highs don't make good partners. Its seeps into all aspects of their life.

I always laugh when people say they travel to see different cultures, yet they spend 70% of their trip on a cruise ship and when they get off at port they visit the trendy tourist spots totally neglecting the actual culture of that country. You don't expect culture until you get away from the tourist areas.

To each their own, call it whatever you want.

 

[Bible_Belt]

There are two acceptable reasons for a man to want to travel. #1 make money. #2 get laid. Anything else is gay. Travel is like dancing, singing, acting...all gay sh1t that ironically can get a guy laid, but let's not pretend that isn't the point.

 

[BeExcellent]

The thing is this. On the deathbed people do not regret working more. They regret insufficient time spent with loved ones, they regret not gaining experiences they could have had, they regret opportunities not taken, but these are not to do with work, typically.