Is cheating no longer considered a red flag?

[Pumax]

Isn't cheating a red flag anymore?

Many of my friends' relationships, we're all in our 20s and 30s, have involved women with a history of cheating. 80% of the women cheated, and 50% of them were forgiven in their LTR. The cheating happened between the ages of 18 and 22, when they were "in the rolleroaster phase". These women then had children, started families, and yet they always gave the impression of maintaining a perfect "facade" while hiding something underneath.

In today's society, is commitment after cheating seen as even more "desirable" than someone who is committed to you from the beginning and maintains respect? (There is a name for this psychological bias.)
Where have the real men gone? In these cases, if you're that man, how can you be sure she'll never do it again? How can you trust her with the role of mother to your children, and be at peace... you can't. You must be worthless if you forgive something like that when she's young, or even when you have something in common (I understand it will be more difficult).

What's the situation like where you live?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It reflects a man's low standards, poor ability to screen properly and low self respect.

No different than asking is being obese no longer a red flag for health?

Just because a lot more people are allowing themselves to become obese doesn't mean it's healthy for them.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

It will always be a red flag.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Isn't cheating a red flag anymore?

Many of my friends' relationships, we're all in our 20s and 30s, have involved women with a history of cheating. 80% of the women cheated, and 50% of them were forgiven in their LTR. The cheating happened between the ages of 18 and 22, when they were "in the rolleroaster phase". These women then had children, started families, and yet they always gave the impression of maintaining a perfect "facade" while hiding something underneath.

In today's society, is commitment after cheating seen as even more "desirable" than someone who is committed to you from the beginning and maintains respect? (There is a name for this psychological bias.)
Where have the real men gone? In these cases, if you're that man, how can you be sure she'll never do it again? How can you trust her with the role of mother to your children, and be at peace... you can't. You must be worthless if you forgive something like that when she's young, or even when you have something in common (I understand it will be more difficult).

What's the situation like where you live?

Average males always had to accept it. That's how this world works.

 

[BadBoy89]

Isn't cheating a red flag anymore?

Many of my friends' relationships, we're all in our 20s and 30s, have involved women with a history of cheating. 80% of the women cheated, and 50% of them were forgiven in their LTR. The cheating happened between the ages of 18 and 22, when they were "in the rolleroaster phase". These women then had children, started families, and yet they always gave the impression of maintaining a perfect "facade" while hiding something underneath.

Your friend, in his mid 30s, has a girlfriend who told him she cheated on her boyfriend when she turned 18, and your friend, in turn, told you that? And then your friend got her pregnant and had a family with her?

Not sure if its the woman maintaining the perfect facade or your friend

In today's society, is commitment after cheating seen as even more "desirable" than someone who is committed to you from the beginning and maintains respect? (There is a name for this psychological bias.)

More desirable to who?

The man, I don't think a man lusts after his gf more once he learns she cheated.

The woman? Yes and no. The woman doesn't see it desirable if the man actually cheats, but the THREAT of cheating is desirable to her.

Where have the real men gone? In these cases, if you're that man, how can you be sure she'll never do it again? How can you trust her with the role of mother to your children, and be at peace... you can't. You must be worthless if you forgive something like that when she's young, or even when you have something in common (I understand it will be more difficult).

Why you asking us? Ask your friends with had a baby with a woman who cheated.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Beggars can't be choosers.

Pretty much everybody is low quality these days.

 

[plumber]

what about the case where the woman cheats with you and then branches to you. do you trust that one ? as context most women a man gets had another man in some stage of relationship before she moves you to priority 1. very few women have zero men in there life.

define cheating ??

for me its far before sex.

 

[Aguirre]

As red as a used tampon.

betamales and simps think their hard work paid off when they snagged those women.

These men are the dependable old stationwagon that never left the driveway, because they always knew she’d get tired of riding those flashy sportscars! Even those dirty busrides with countless complete strangers are now forgivable! Even those drunken taxi rides that she willingly shelled out money for!

The stationwagon screams: ‘I’m always going to be here for you baby! I don’t care if you’ve toured the whole country; I’ve got low mileage and am ready for adventure — unless you’ve already had your fun and want to settle down! Lots of baggage? No problem! I’ve got room and won’t judge!’

 

[BaronOfHair]

Many of my friends' relationships, we're all in our 20s and 30s, have involved women with a history of cheating. 80% of the women cheated, and 50% of them were forgiven in their LTR. The cheating happened between the ages of 18 and 22, when they were "in the rolleroaster phase"

If we're talking being unfaithful once or twice in one's teens or early 20s... Well, the MAJORITY of the human race is guilty as charged. On the other hand:

A gal who lost her cherry at age 12 to some 20something, and was the subject of regular gang bangs at the d-cks of The JV Team by time 15 rolled around, remains a walking Enter At Your Own Risk sign

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Average males always had to accept it. That's how this world works.

No, it wasnt always that way in "the west". While it of course happened, women had to avoid the coming out of her infidelity.
She was called out for being a slut by society (family/neighborhood/work) and she had to pay a price for cheating.

This just changed a couple of decades ago, when women got more and more access to dyck and attention through social media and were more and more empowered and financed by the government.

Today, there is hardly any repercussion to a woman cheating. Not socially and not financially.

 

[Gamisch]

Good topic.

Let me keep it short: most men will say the ultimate flex in 2026 and up is having a wife amd a family. So they'll go through great lengths to achieve this.
.
Simultaneously we have the NATURE of the female mind at play; a ( or some) women will definitely push their boundaries as far as possible. If a woman KNOW that she will get away with cheating ,she will/ might.

At some point a man invested so much that he'd rather take that fat L and just ...forgets about it. Interestingly enough the "65 % of men don't date " statistic means that the 35 % that do date ALSO involves a big portion of men in relationships where they KNOW they've been cheated on...

 

[plumber]

Good topic.

Let me keep it short: most men will say the ultimate flex in 2026 and up is having a wife amd a family. So they'll go through great lengths to achieve this.
.
Simultaneously we have the NATURE of the female mind at play; a ( or some) women will definitely push their boundaries as far as possible. If a woman KNOW that she will get away with cheating ,she will/ might.

At some point a man invested so much that he'd rather take that fat L and just ...forgets about it. Interestingly enough the "65 % of men don't date " statistic means that the 35 % that do date ALSO involves a big portion of men in relationships where they KNOW they've been cheated on...

we have a distorted sample. lots of guys with similar attributes that default to women of similar attributes. (that pool of women behave like that). its not AWALT, its TPOWBLT. we don't look outside that pool for reasons we brag about. every time one of us looks outside that pool he goes away and doesn't post anymore. problem is solved.... lots of good women, we ignore them.

 

[Clockwerk50]

In the @SW15 thread about the Astronomer CEO and the employee who were caught having an affair at the Coldplay concert, I mentioned something my mom once told me: “A man is always forgiven for everything.” What she meant was that men are often judged more leniently than women for the same behavior. Men get sent to the doghouse and then welcomed back multiple times; I even know someone who blew a bunch of money at a Las Vegas casino and had to sleep on the couch for a couple of days/weeks.

Either way, I was looking forward in following up with him on this story because, as things stand right now, the CEO is still married, while the woman involved has had to get a divorce.

Prominent Software Company CEO Caught Having Affair with Human Resource Director

What Happened? A married male Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of a prominent software company was caught with another woman on the kiss cam at Gillette Stadium during a Coldplay concert this week. They were in a romantic embrace at the moment that the stadium cameras spotted them. The other woman...

www.sosuave.net

 

[Aguirre]

Good topic.

Let me keep it short: most men will say the ultimate flex in 2026 and up is having a wife amd a family. So they'll go through great lengths to achieve this.
.
Simultaneously we have the NATURE of the female mind at play; a ( or some) women will definitely push their boundaries as far as possible. If a woman KNOW that she will get away with cheating ,she will/ might.

At some point a man invested so much that he'd rather take that fat L and just ...forgets about it. Interestingly enough the "65 % of men don't date " statistic means that the 35 % that do date ALSO involves a big portion of men in relationships where they KNOW they've been cheated on...

It's incredible how in 2026 marriage for men is still seen as a rite of passage rather than a road to hell paved with good intentions.

Marry the damn girl! Do the right thing! Relationships are hard work! Life is suffering!

There's no real penalty for a woman cheating. Men have taken so many blue pills that they no longer realize what marriage was supposed to mean, and have made life (and divorce) so much easier for women that women might as well be children umable to fathom concepts like sacrifices and risks.

I suppose in an ironic way, getting cheated on or frivolously divorced has become a rite of passage now as finding out the hard way allows men to stop taking the blue pill and maybe start taking the red pill.

 

[Gamisch]

It's incredible how in 2026 marriage for men is still seen as a rite of passage rather than a road to hell paved with good intentions.

Marry the damn girl! Do the right thing! Relationships are hard work! Life is suffering!

There's no real penalty for a woman cheating. Men have taken so many blue pills that they no longer realize what marriage was supposed to mean, and have made life (and divorce) so much easier for women that women might as well be children umable to fathom concepts like sacrifices and risks.

I suppose in an ironic way, getting cheated on or frivolously divorced has become a rite of passage now as finding out the hard way allows men to stop taking the blue pill and maybe start taking the red pill.

" I was just curious, but after I slept with that azzhole I realised how much you actually mean to me. There is no one like you, and if I hadn't done it I would not understand your true worth "

Now that's game..

" and by the way, your D is WAY bigger than his".

Dude might even end up feeling like he won...

 

[Manure Spherian]

No, it wasnt always that way in "the west".

I wonder why he said that. Historically men could be put to death by cheated-on husbands and women were subjected to punishment too. And cads were lynched.

Pre-Anglo cuck era.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

No, it wasnt always that way in "the west". While it of course happened, women had to avoid the coming out of her infidelity.
She was called out for being a slut by society (family/neighborhood/work) and she had to pay a price for cheating.

This just changed a couple of decades ago, when women got more and more access to dyck and attention through social media and were more and more empowered and financed by the government.

Today, there is hardly any repercussion to a woman cheating. Not socially and not financially.

Wake up man, you live in the world where female prison guard fck inmates, where female lawyers fck inmates, where inmates are adored by females (anyone here aware of Wade Wilson story? Guy killed 2 women and still received letters from over 4000 female fans - in addition to over 146 indecent photos from women ready to jump on sociopath's pole), in the world where females are BORED with normies, BORED with sharing financial weights of mortgages everyday together with their husbands, BORED of hundreds of thousands of average, normal guys struggling with everything, asking AI engines about every little sh*t, asking their buddies about everything that worries them (and they are worried about a lot average guys worried about), guys going to therapy more often than women do and crying over Bogart in Casablanca like pansies.

Women however love push-pull, love a good fight, love to be ordered around or treated badly by bad boys (or treated badly because why not?). Hell, I have personally experienced it how easily is to go to bed with other guys woman. They sense this "he is about himself, about career, he is a sure of himself type". They love it. Once you understand that female has this animalistic spirit which is a bit different from yours, but complementing yours above social norms of "normies", you go past border of rationality and towards true knowledge about human character, which is partially as close to animals instinct as they can be. Bad boys are closer to such insticts. Just because a female seems to be faithful does not mean she always was. Objective truth remains almost always undisclosed and its brutal.

If you think that bossy woman ordering her boyfriend around would be bossy with any guy, you are wrong. All these girls like to bend over like cats and allow do crazy things to them if the right man is ready to lead them in bed or in life - and no marriage, no "conservative upbringing", no "people are going to gossip" will stop woman from spreading her legs, if THE man will want her and take her for himself. Her c.uck-boy can sit nicely and watch how it is done if he really wants to be around her all the time. If someone thinks that female character has changed in 60 years or something, he does not understood what has truly happened.

Soy-boyz happened. Weak-boyz happened. Cry-boyz happened. Being man is partially about being territorial animal and dominance - not about "peaceful, tame co-existance". Men got tamed quickly in the past 100 years and females CRAVE what was lost in the process - your violent nature, your disregard for danger your grand-grandfather probably had to show here and there to get a shot at your grand-grandmother. Struggle for a girl (fighting for a girl, etc.). Women are taught just as we are that being civilised is being good - but we are not robots.

Most of males living before us had much less to loose 100 years ago and much more to gain from taking risks, so they fought harder for what they truly wanted - and guess what, females were more conservative and were interested in maintaining laws because laws protected them - otherwise they were in territory of constant struggle and possible violence in which men lived.

Now you have a lot of guys trying to impress women with money or status & money - and that's it. That's boring. Guy has a fast bike? WOW, WHAT A DAREDEVIL. LOL. - but man going after married woman (or taken woman) because HE wants HER THAT BADLY to DISREGARD social norms around him, to take the risk, to create stress, to create fantasies, to create story from romance book. Man. If he is - in addition - good looking, educated and with money - well, I would bet a lot that a lot (A LOT) of women perceived as poster girls of morality would fall quickly to advances of such a guy. If criminals get their way with educated female lawyers, you think a proper DJ won't screw your girl if you are an average guy? Cold logic would be against believing it. A lot of guys here would say "he would never screw my woman"

Well. Perhaps - if you are strong male. If you are a wuss, your girl would spread her legs without second thoughts and you would not even know. You would even receive the best dinner of your life on sunday from her (to satisfy her conscience) and on monday she would again think about the guy that crossed the line of social norms for her because that's what make women wet down below.

When woman see 5 guys speaking about financial investments, crypto, real estates investments - she is around because her mother or cunning best friend taught her to be around the milk cows.

When woman still able to ovulate sees a real man on the prowl (whether in business, social situations or in romance) doing real man/bad boy stuff , she is truly interested, even if she says she is not.

 

[Aguirre]

Wake up man, you live in the world where female prison guard fck inmates, where female lawyers fck inmates, where inmates are adored by females (anyone here aware of Wade Wilson story? Guy killed 2 women and still received letters from over 4000 female fans - in addition to over 146 indecent photos from women ready to jump on sociopath's pole), in the world where females are BORED with normies, BORED with sharing financial weights of mortgages everyday together with their husbands, BORED of hundreds of thousands of average, normal guys struggling with everything, asking AI engines about every little sh*t, asking their buddies about everything that worries them (and they are worried about a lot average guys worried about), guys going to therapy more often than women do and crying over Bogart in Casablanca like pansies.

Women however love push-pull, love a good fight, love to be ordered around or treated badly by bad boys (or treated badly because why not?). Hell, I have personally experienced it how easily is to go to bed with other guys woman. They sense this "he is about himself, about career, he is a sure of himself type". They love it. Once you understand that female has this animalistic spirit which is a bit different from yours, but complementing yours above social norms of "normies", you go past border of rationality and towards true knowledge about human character, which is partially as close to animals instinct as they can be. Bad boys are closer to such insticts. Just because a female seems to be faithful does not mean she always was. Objective truth remains almost always undisclosed and its brutal.

If you think that bossy woman ordering her boyfriend around would be bossy with any guy, you are wrong. All these girls like to bend over like cats and allow do crazy things to them if the right man is ready to lead them in bed or in life - and no marriage, no "conservative upbringing", no "people are going to gossip" will stop woman from spreading her legs, if THE man will want her and take her for himself. Her c.uck-boy can sit nicely and watch how it is done if he really wants to be around her all the time. If someone thinks that female character has changed in 60 years or something, he does not understood what has truly happened.

Soy-boyz happened. Weak-boyz happened. Cry-boyz happened. Being man is partially about being territorial animal and dominance - not about "peaceful, tame co-existance". Men got tamed quickly in the past 100 years and females CRAVE what was lost in the process - your violent nature, your disregard for danger your grand-grandfather probably had to show here and there to get a shot at your grand-grandmother. Struggle for a girl (fighting for a girl, etc.). Women are taught just as we are that being civilised is being good - but we are not robots.

Most of males living before us had much less to loose 100 years ago and much more to gain from taking risks, so they fought harder for what they truly wanted - and guess what, females were more conservative and were interested in maintaining laws because laws protected them - otherwise they were in territory of constant struggle and possible violence in which men lived.

Now you have a lot of guys trying to impress women with money or status & money - and that's it. That's boring. Guy has a fast bike? WOW, WHAT A DAREDEVIL. LOL. - but man going after married woman (or taken woman) because HE wants HER THAT BADLY to DISREGARD social norms around him, to take the risk, to create stress, to create fantasies, to create story from romance book. Man. If he is - in addition - good looking, educated and with money - well, I would bet a lot that a lot (A LOT) of women perceived as poster girls of morality would fall quickly to advances of such a guy. If criminals get their way with educated female lawyers, you think a proper DJ won't screw your girl if you are an average guy? Cold logic would be against believing it. A lot of guys here would say "he would never screw my woman"

Well. Perhaps - if you are strong male. If you are a wuss, your girl would spread her legs without second thoughts and you would not even know. You would even receive the best dinner of your life on sunday from her (to satisfy her conscience) and on monday she would again think about the guy that crossed the line of social norms for her because that's what make women wet down below.

When woman see 5 guys speaking about financial investments, crypto, real estates investments - she is around because her mother or cunning best friend taught her to be around the milk cows.

When woman still able to ovulate sees a real man on the prowl (whether in business, social situations or in romance) doing real man/bad boy stuff , she is truly interested, even if she says she is not.

Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.

Maybe the oldest lesson of all-time: Never, ever listen to a woman!



Female logic:

 

[pipeman84]

Wake up man, you live in the world where female prison guard fck inmates, where female lawyers fck inmates, where inmates are adored by females

I've read stories about female prison guards having illicit relationship with inmates ... but notwithstanding some overly filtered IG photos that would make one think they're attractive, they were ugly to average looking at best, tatted up, single moms etc. Furthermore, what woman who is even half decent would apply to that sort of job? Bottom line, they are not any better than sex workers.

Now you have a lot of guys trying to impress women with money or status & money - and that's it. That's boring. Guy has a fast bike? WOW, WHAT A DAREDEVIL. LOL. - but man going after married woman (or taken woman) because HE wants HER THAT BADLY to DISREGARD social norms around him, to take the risk, to create stress, to create fantasies, to create story from romance book. Man. If he is - in addition - good looking, educated and with money - well, I would bet a lot that a lot (A LOT) of women perceived as poster girls of morality would fall quickly to advances of such a guy. If criminals get their way with educated female lawyers, you think a proper DJ won't screw your girl if you are an average guy?

I disagree completely. It only takes average intelligence to see right through a bad boy. Particularly in this day and age when access to information is at your fingertips, instant and free. For a woman in a relationship to fall for an Andrew Tate wannabe with a bike, it would mean that she has less than average intelligence AND lack of integrity. Now the big question is: why would and self respecting guy be in a relationship with such a woman?

Regarding the educated female lawyers falling for criminals, I haven't yet read about such a case. But I'm sure the woman in that situation wouldn't be mistaken for a poster girl of morality. In other words, it's most likely a +35yrs old woman with at least several failed relationships and probably also a hoe phase in her early 20s.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

I disagree completely. It only takes average intelligence to see right through a bad boy.

If the most intelligent guys would get the most attractive women, this board would be empty as my balls after good oral sex.