Quick Advice Wanted

[Divorced w 3]

I'm not sure why you set it so late for a Thursday night...

IMO, if the girl wants to fvck, she will fvck you at 8pm or 1am, it doesn't matter.

I was going to say that. He may as well gone mode one at that point @We_ArE_VeNOM right buddy?

 

[Divorced w 3]

You can go now. I wish @Clockwerk50 hadn't tagged you, but if I ever need help seducing retirees I'll let you know.

I’ve gone mode one with barely 21 college women and you bytched and moaned because you can’t and wanted to know how I was doing it.

respect the mode one junior. Your problem is the same as everyone else around here. You ask for help and yet you have all the answers.

 

[The Duke]

Also agree, but I'm just working within the constraints of when she was available.

She has to be up early in the morning for work, has a holiday party after that, then flies out to her family for Christmas Saturday morning.

She had too much going on in a short time frame. It's hard to seduce a woman in these conditions. You had the deck stacked against you from the start. Next time just pass.

I think you suspected this would go down like this which is why you asked the forum. Next time you won't ask, you will know.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Sounds like a very typical swipe app date where two strangers meet have absolutely nothing in common aside from both being on the app

If you are experienced enough to be offering coaching with women you should be experienced enough to know this woman was a control freak , wants a place with food , wants to leave by 10pm up by 5am

give me a break

Ive read a few of your posts and there's a constantly recurring theme where you seem to be wanting to date / sleep with absolutely any woman you have any type of interaction with

You need to filter better

Right, dude is out here offering coaching...but, from the looks of things, he needs to be a client.

This post sounds like something a client will ask, not a coach.

Nothing about the OP screams experience and know-how.

 

[Clockwerk50]

She had too much going on in a short time frame. It's hard to seduce a woman in these conditions. You had the deck stacked against you from the start. Next time just pass.

I think you suspected this would go down like this which is why you asked the forum. Next time you won't ask, you will know.

In OP’s defense, he is getting acquainted with the city because he may move there. His time there is also limited, so he should make the most of it.

Whether he was successful or not, it was still a valuable experience to better understand what living there might be like.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You can go now. I wish @Clockwerk50 hadn't tagged you, but if I ever need help seducing retirees I'll let you know.

I'll gladly leave.

I didn't mean to interrupt this beta pity party with masculine energy.

When true alpha males show up, all the beta males get uncomfortable..as is evident here.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I was going to say that. He may as well gone mode one at that point @We_ArE_VeNOM right buddy?

Might as well .

Mode One is only for select males.

He ain't select.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Might as well .

Mode One is only for select males.

He ain't select.

Right but whose he kidding besides himself with the 10pm drink offer as some sort of say it without saying it date

 

[Sega Genesis]

@BPH why didn't you go fishing afterwards like BE suggested, It was only 8:30! Or 9:30 AZ time. Why let it ruin your night and head home? Is this what you would advise your clients?

You're getting pretty beat up here, some I agree with some I don't but I think it's what @Bingo-Player said, two strangers who met on a swipe app who didn't click when they met in person. Her excuse afterwards was BS imo, she simply wasn't feeling it.

For you either right? You didn't like that she wore a suit jacket over her dress and that she didn't do her nails?

Yeah nothing happening....not uncommon for swipe apps.

No need to analyze, shake it off and line something else up or just head out and see what you find.

$.02

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Right but whose he kidding besides himself with the 10pm drink offer as some sort of say it without saying it date

He was going indirect (Mode 2).

Beta shiit.

 

[BPH]

@Divorced w 3 brother...you suggested to a guy who was nervous about going for a kiss to PHONE SEX a woman prior to meeting her. There's Mode One, and then there's abject stupidity...

I’ve gone mode one with barely 21 college women and you bytched and moaned because you can’t and wanted to know how I was doing it.

You didn't go Mode One...you spent half your night at a bar posted up on a corner drinking non-alcoholic beverages with your friend all night until a girl put herself next to you. I remember my surprise being at THAT fact, not that you pulled a college girl.

I think you suspected this would go down like this which is why you asked the forum. Next time you won't ask, you will know.

Exactly. My original thought was to not waste my time. I only bothered because I was getting multiple suggestions to do the opposite.

@BPH why didn't you go fishing afterwards like BE suggested, It was only 8:30! Or 9:30 AZ time. Why let it ruin your night and head home? Is this what you would advise your clients?

I did go out after. My hotel was within walking distance of this place. I went back, had a meal, pregamed a little, then went back out later at night.

You're getting pretty beat up here, some I agree with some I don't but I think it's what @Bingo-Player said, two strangers who met on a swipe app who didn't click when they met in person. Her excuse afterwards was BS imo, she simply wasn't feeling it.

For you either right? You didn't like that she wore a suit jacket over her dress and that she didn't do her nails?

Yeah nothing happening....not uncommon for swipe apps.

No need to analyze, shake it off and line something else up or just head out and see what you find.

$.02

I agree. I don't think this is worth the overanalysis that some of these replies are giving it.

I didn't think this date was going to be worth my time, I asked the forum for an outside perspective, was convinced to give it a shot, and then it turned out my assumption was correct. Whether her excuse was BS or not doesn't really matter, the result was the same.

Might as well .

Mode One is only for select males.

He ain't select.

I didn't know "select" males were out here banging grandparents.

Listen, I don't particularly dislike you as a person, but I will never take your advice, so please don't waste your time leaving it.

As far as I'm concerned, you're a guy who throws Hail Marys every play because that's all he knows how to do, and when you're not doing that you're on the forum telling every guy to follow the teachings of Allen Roger Curie, otherwise they're a beta chump. And to my knowledge, the only women that seems to be working on are 60somethings, but feel free to post your reports when/if you do manage to be successful outside of that demographic.

I asked a question. I got answers. I had an experience.

Not much reason to keep the thread going unless you want to continue circle jerking about Mode One.

 

[Divorced w 3]

@Divorced w 3 brother...you suggested to a guy who was nervous about going for a kiss to PHONE SEX a woman prior to meeting her. There's Mode One, and then there's abject stupidity...



You didn't go Mode One...you spent half your night at a bar posted up on a corner drinking non-alcoholic beverages with your friend all night until a girl put herself next to you. I remember my surprise being at THAT fact, not that you pulled a college girl.



Exactly. My original thought was to not waste my time. I only bothered because I was getting multiple suggestions to do the opposite.



I did go out after. My hotel was within walking distance of this place. I went back, had a meal, pregamed a little, then went back out later at night.



I agree. I don't think this is worth the overanalysis that some of these replies are giving it.

I didn't think this date was going to be worth my time, I asked the forum for an outside perspective, was convinced to give it a shot, and then it turned out my assumption was correct. Whether her excuse was BS or not doesn't really matter, the result was the same.



I didn't know "select" males were out here banging grandparents.

Listen, I don't particularly dislike you as a person, but I will never take your advice, so please don't waste your time leaving it.

As far as I'm concerned, you're a guy who throws Hail Marys every play because that's all he knows how to do, and when you're not doing that you're on the forum telling every guy to follow the teachings of Allen Roger Curie, otherwise they're a beta chump. And to my knowledge, the only women that seems to be working on are 60somethings, but feel free to post your reports when/if you do manage to be successful outside of that demographic.

I asked a question. I got answers. I had an experience.

Not much reason to keep the thread going unless you want to continue circle jerking about Mode One.

You’re not telling the truth. She pulled up next to me with her friends and ordered drinks. I didn’t pay for anything for her, not a single time. Within five minutes I told her she was going to make a bad decision and leave with me end of night. We spent the night, at least four more hours, talking and flirting here and there while I gamed other women and then I literally drove her home. Don’t make stuff up just because you can’t pull things off. It’s going to kill your credibility.

 

[BPH]

You’re not telling the truth. She pulled up next to me with her friends and ordered drinks. I didn’t pay for anything for her, not a single time. Within five minutes I told her she was going to make a bad decision and leave with me end of night. We spent the night, at least four more hours, talking and flirting here and there while I gamed other women and then I literally drove her home. Don’t make stuff up just because you can’t pull things off. It’s going to kill your credibility.

What am I making up? You spent your whole night at the bar to leave with a girl you met HOURS ago...

How in the hell is that Mode One? I've left with women 15 minutes after meeting them, I know it's possible. My critique of you is the hypocrisy of suggesting I be Mode One when you yourself aren't practicing what you're preaching.

 

[Gamisch]

 

[Divorced w 3]

What am I making up? You spent your whole night at the bar to leave with a girl you met HOURS ago...

How in the hell is that Mode One? I've left with women 15 minutes after meeting them, I know it's possible. My critique of you is the hypocrisy of suggesting I be Mode One when you yourself aren't practicing what you're preaching.

Maybe my entire self worth doesn’t revolve around chasing pvssy. Perhaps, my enigmatic persona can allow me to enjoy company of friends and still pull when I’m ready to pull. Also you don’t know mode one because what I did is exactly how mode one works. Doesn’t mean you take her home that night it means your direct. I took her home was the icing on the cake. Who did you think you were fooling with your 10pm drinks date? How much time did you waste? If you had balls you would have said your mind on the text. You’re out how much? You got nothing for it. < I got laid. Mine cost nothing. Epic night with my best friend.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I didn't know "select" males were out here banging grandparents.

All are equal, in the face of lust .

Listen, I don't particularly dislike you as a person, but I will never take your advice, so please don't waste your time leaving it.

Even if I waste my time leaving you advice, it is still less time than you spent on miss lady who flaked on you.

As far as I'm concerned, you're a guy who throws Hail Marys every play because that's all he knows how to do

Um, that ain't all I know how to do.

I used to be indirect, just like you.

It's called "leveling up".

You should try it.

, and when you're not doing that you're on the forum telling every guy to follow the teachings of Allen Roger Curie, otherwise they're a beta chump.

If you're too much of a verbal COWARD to let a woman know your TRUE intentions, then yeah, your're a beta CHUMP.

And to my knowledge, the only women that seems to be working on are 60somethings, but feel free to post your reports when/if you do manage to be successful outside of that demographic.

The stories that I've shared are of women who are all across the age spectrum, with the youngest being 19.

You choose to focus on the senior lady, because you think it will win more rhetorical comedic points than any other age, that's all.

I asked a question. I got answers. I had an experience.

Not much reason to keep the thread going unless you want to continue circle jerking about Mode One.

Modeee Oneee.

 

[BPH]

Maybe my entire self worth doesn’t revolve around chasing pvssy.

< I got laid.

Bruh...

Also you don’t know mode one because what I did is exactly how mode one works. Doesn’t mean you take her home that night it means your direct.

Nothing you did was Mode One...you simply existed, she came up to you, you made a suggestive remark (not even a direct one, like you're advocating for), then waited 4 hours.

It worked out, good for you, but let's not pretend this was ballsy.

I can see this thread heading in the direction of a pointless battleground, so I'll explain my thought process one time, and why I did what I did, so we can put this all to bed...

I'm here to see whether I'd like this place enough to move here. The dating scene definitely factors into "whether I'd like this place". I'm under a time constraint, and have spent a pretty penny getting here and staying here for the week.

Now, this girl appeared high interest with her messages and her texts. She responded quickly, her messages were lengthy, she was open to whatever I wanted to do (within her time constraint), and she even texted me the morning before to confirm we were still on for that night.

However, her Hinge profile showed that she was Christian, and that was looking for a Life partner, so I already had my doubts about how well things could possible go.

I also understand the goal of the dating apps is to get off the app and meet the person in real life, because interest over text and messages means very little. I also also understand that I am much more charming in person, and have had plenty of women become more receptive of me when they've spent time with me, even if they hadn't planned on/been open to sleeping with me that night.

So rather than talk myself out of this date by trying to screen her too hard and have her think I was going to jump her bones, I, after receiving multiple suggestions to go on this date, against my presupposition that it would be a waste of time, decided to save that type of talk for if things went well on the date.

That date did not go well, obviously.

How much of that has to do with the fact that I'm visiting temporarily vs the "real" reason, I'll never know. She hadn't done her nails, wasn't dressed particularly flattering, and was wearing a man's jacket due to the weather; she looked good, but she did not dress to impress - which was especially annoying because I rushed through work, the gym, and skipped cardio so I would have time to freshen up and meet her at this bar at the time I picked.

The silver lining is that the date lasted less than an hour, and left me plenty of time to prepare for going out later that night. She wasted my time, but didn't waste too much of it.

Overanalyze all you want, but I'm done with this thread.

You choose to focus on the senior lady, because you think it will win more rhetorical comedic points than any other age, that's all.

I focus on the senior lady because it shows me that you take whatever you can get, and don't have standards. And you don't have standards because your method does not work on women who have standards, and by extension, options.

Red pill, MGTOW, high-value man BS aside, nobody's first choice is going to be a woman who's old enough to be their mom. That is why I ignore your advice, and why I generally suggest others to do the same - I do not want your results, so I do not adopt your method.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Bruh...



Nothing you did was Mode One...you simply existed, she came up to you, you made a suggestive remark (not even a direct one, like you're advocating for), then waited 4 hours.

It worked out, good for you, but let's not pretend this was ballsy.

I can see this thread heading in the direction of a pointless battleground, so I'll explain my thought process one time, and why I did what I did, so we can put this all to bed...

I'm here to see whether I'd like this place enough to move here. The dating scene definitely factors into "whether I'd like this place". I'm under a time constraint, and have spent a pretty penny getting here and staying here for the week.

Now, this girl appeared high interest with her messages and her texts. She responded quickly, her messages were lengthy, she was open to whatever I wanted to do (within her time constraint), and she even texted me the morning before to confirm we were still on for that night.

However, her Hinge profile showed that she was Christian, and that was looking for a Life partner, so I already had my doubts about how well things could possible go.

I also understand the goal of the dating apps is to get off the app and meet the person in real life, because interest over text and messages means very little. I also also understand that I am much more charming in person, and have had plenty of women become more receptive of me when they've spent time with me, even if they hadn't planned on/been open to sleeping with me that night.

So rather than talk myself out of this date by trying to screen her too hard and have her think I was going to jump her bones, I, after receiving multiple suggestions to go on this date, against my presupposition that it would be a waste of time, decided to save that type of talk for if things went well on the date.

That date did not go well, obviously.

How much of that has to do with the fact that I'm visiting temporarily visiting vs the "real" reason, I'll never know. She hadn't done her nails, wasn't dressed particularly flattering, and was wearing a man's jacket due to the weather; she looked good, but she did not dress to impress - which was especially annoying because I rushed through work, the gym, and skipped cardio so I would have time to freshen up and meet her at this bar at the time I picked.

The silver lining is that the date lasted less than an hour, and left me plenty of time to prepare for going out later that night. She wasted my time, but didn't waste too much of it.

Overanalyze all you want, but I'm done with this thread.



I focus on the senior lady because it shows me that you take whatever you can get, and don't have standards. And you don't have standards because your method does not work on women who have standards, and by extension, options.

Red pill, MGTOW, high-value man BS aside, nobody's first choice is going to be a woman who's old enough to be their mom. That is why I ignore your advice, and why I generally suggest others to do the same - I do not want your results, so I do not adopt your method.

I told a girl she was leaving with me, I had a great night with a friend and then she left with me because I told her to. You don’t understand what mode one is. You think that you have to go out solo and pull to have a good night out. You identify your sense of self around getting women. Stop trying to play mode one off like you have any idea how it goes. I would love to see you spend this much time calculating many weeks of your life and money spent traveling to and from distance locations only to spend money and not have anything to show for it. Just like the other night.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@BPH I'd hit up the bars man, lots of chicks have stuff going on with the holiday season and it's a time for them to be on wholesome mode anyway. May as well go where the available women are.

And I'd try Mill Ave in Tempe (ASU) over Old Town, since that's your usual pool and the girls are looser being in college.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Turned out to be a waste of time.

I'm already back, wasn't even there an hour. I'm not even sure where the disconnect is because so many things went the opposite of how I thought they'd go based on her interest level over text.

She arrived on time, but she was wearing like a suit jacket over her outfit because 60 degrees is cold for her here. Quick hug, walked in, got a seat at the bar, and ordered a drink. Apparently she prefers wine, but didn't like anything they had on the menu, so she ordered a High Noon that she didn't even finish. She also mentioned that she ate before she came, so the fact that this bar served food was a factor I could've ignored entirely. I noticed she hadn't gone through the trouble of doing her nails. Conversation went well enough, but wasn't really flirty, and when asked if she wanted to play pool she got conscious of the time and thought she should go. I offered to walk her to her car, but she declined, gave me a hug, and left.

I'll keep this experience in the back of my mind the next time I consider altering my schedule to accommodate hers.

Everybody sees how the "long term" seeking chick isn't bothering to do her nails or wear an appealing outfit, right?

Marriage material right there lolol