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Do you think it’s possible?

I’m starting to really lock in during some sessions, and throwing in game, and seduction strategies. I know it will be hard, but I want to make it where she comes on to me. She is also a great therapist I don’t want to ruin our relationship. Her smv is very low she is probably 45. Something about her really turns me on. She would be lucky to get an alpha like me…she sees and knows my high value..I could throw in some more elite strategies as far as a Kino touch
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Do you think it’s possible?
Yeah, and if her name happens to be Bedelia Du Maurier, chances of her OTHER sometimes-lover Hannibal Lecter becoming jealous, then chowing down on your liver are fairly strong

Like strolling through the streets of Tehran shouting "Shias suck donkey sh-t through a straw", some activities simply ain't wise, unless one has the most ardent death wish in the history of man
 

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WTF is going on lately here??
We are not allowed to hit on our therapists?

Granted the OP is attracted to a woman who has a nine-year-old Great granddaughter, but still….
 

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What’s up

Do you think it’s possible?

I’m starting to really lock in during some sessions, and throwing in game, and seduction strategies. I know it will be hard, but I want to make it where she comes on to me. She is also a great therapist I don’t want to ruin our relationship. Her smv is very low she is probably 45. Something about her really turns me on. She would be lucky to get an alpha like me…she sees and knows my high value..I could throw in some more elite strategies as far as a Kino touch
She must stroke your ego? Lol not happening here.
 

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Tony Soprano over here! you can pull her yes. IF she is attracted to you. Forget about 'seduction strategies' lol. This isn't 2010
 

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What’s up with all these betas freaking out?! Lmfao..bro..just being real. And as long as your not a creep AND…if you are..tall..attractive..handsome and successful like me..what’s wrong with bringing some og game..dorks lmfao!!!!!
 

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What’s up with all these betas freaking out?! Lmfao..bro..just being real. And as long as your not a creep AND…if you are..tall..attractive..handsome and successful like me..what’s wrong with bringing some og game..dorks lmfao!!!!!
Advice from the old lady:

Gotta admit, this one's a head scratcher Scooby. If our OP is so bloody dashing why on Earth would he consider seducing her at all?

Ego protection of narcissism, that's why. He has a need to demonstrate and wield his (perceived) power over her. He cannot allow himself to feel vulnerable (something he must do in order to heal & adjust his self love) but she is working through the therapy process to reach him emotionally to deal with all the trauma or whatever he is working on in therapy, and this creates an emotional bond he feels toward her because he is investing time, money, energy, and hopefully effort into this process.

Never forget: We come to love what we invest in.

Her goal as a therapist is to teach him how to cope with whatever issues he is working on. In the process the client often becomes very attached to the therapist.

They teach about this in clinical pschology in fact, how your patients may fall in love with you, and it is lose your license type mal practice potential to get personally involved with a client (and seeking a personal relationship outside the clinical setting is actionable professional misconduct certainly) so they make therapists aware of these pitfalls as an integral part of training. A cunning client may be supremely good at masking, lying and manipulating and a wise therapist knows that phenomena well. It is a well worn page in a grandiose narcissist's playbook.

There. Free therapy and an admonishment because she already knows your level of attachment to her.

If you are so fine....find someone else. This ends badly and if you persist she will cease to treat you and will refer you elsewhere as that is the professional thing to do with an unprofessional patient.

Sheesh guys. Is the Kool Aid super extra tainted around here lately or what?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Gotta admit, this one's a head scratcher Scooby. If our OP is so bloody dashing why on Earth would he consider seducing her at all?
@GoodMan32's likely rejoined us, under a different screename, same way.The Church has been conning billions into believing that The Holy Trinity = Incontrvertible Truth for an unforgivably long time, DESPITE said doctrine being even more unbelievable JLaw's rise to stardom not being heavily attributable to her spreading her legs/quite possibly asscheeks for H. Weinstein
 
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Well all I will say is, when I posed this question maybe 4 months ago, it was much more well received.
 

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Eye phuck her op and see if it gets her blood flowing
 

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What’s up with all these betas freaking out?! Lmfao..bro..just being real. And as long as your not a creep AND…if you are..tall..attractive..handsome and successful like me..what’s wrong with bringing some og game..dorks lmfao!!!!!
Those guys are chumps! Keep playing your game, At $200+ a session she will eventually get wet for you. Just confess to her what an alpha you are, I'm sure she fingers herself after recording her post-session notes on you.
 

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No cap this thread is a bit weird but here's my 2 cents on it:

About a year ago I watched a tv series about a family of therapists. One client (young narcissistic man, around 29) felt attracted to the woman therapist. And one way or another, they ended up having a fling. Later on the husband of this woman (also a therapist) came back from living abroad, and the young guy visited him for therapy. During his sessions he described indirectly his relationship with his woman, and mentioned how her husband (the therapist) pushed her away, etc.

So this gave me the idea that you could indirectly tell her that you feel attracted towards an older woman but the circumstances don't allow you to move things forward. This way you could plant the seed in her mind that you fancy her. However, this could probably backfire if you don't think it through accordingly, and end up in an awkward situation. I don't know what you should do, but this is just an idea that popped up in my head about your situation.
 

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Well all I will say is, when I posed this question maybe 4 months ago, it was much more well received.
I'd give you exactly the same advice as I gave here. I don't think its a good idea, but you are better calibrated than OP and hopefully have gotten over/through the being infatuated with therapist phase. Its VERY common because you are learning vulnerability and investing in that interaction.

So common that therapists are trained on this type thing.
 

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I'd give you exactly the same advice as I gave here. I don't think its a good idea, but you are better calibrated than OP and hopefully have gotten over/through the being infatuated with therapist phase. Its VERY common because you are learning vulnerability and investing in that interaction.

So common that therapists are trained on this type thing.
I agree wholeheartedly. I have lots of wasted time and money in therapy.

People with massive egos, like me, who have an internal fragility, again like me that needs reassurance can easily put someone like a therapist on a pedestal - or some other person that’s is highly successful at soothing some pain point in their life. I am not infatuated with her any longer.

However, you can get real dopamine hits from real indications of interest from a therapist when you’re in a weak spot with a massive need to avoid pain and seek acceptance.

What I mean is that your therapist is a human being too and since they are not God, very likely possible they are in fact communicating either subtle or more overt choosing signals.

Really good ones I am sure won’t do that and cross the boundary but, the world is a big place and only 50% of it is secure.

People like me, anxious-avoidant, egotistical, don’t typically gravitate towards secure people either until the change happens within and willingness to sit and deal with the real pains of the issue. As such, not unlikely that in the process of finding professional help, two kindred spirits may connect in the therapeutic setting like they would socially.

Secure ones are more likely to be honest, which can be infuriating, as I have experienced plenty of times, and while they may keep seeing you with an optimism that you may change, it doesn’t mean the work will be done by the patient.

I may as well add this on the topic of therapeutic introspection: I am a child of severe abuse and emotional trauma and I suppressed it for so long - I didn’t even have an interest to do the real work until I lost my best friend and the truest love of my life. I was living wrong in every way - I am a d1ck and egotistical bastard on this forum - I was living fast and loose in my career - I was an a$$ in my former marriage, people were simply a means to an end for me, I always wanted my edge from what they did for me - and needless to say I applied that to the incredible human being whom took me and my children on and played Mom to them like nobody would imagine. So what did I do with that ego, I would first get massively angry, and talk trash, physically and emotionally act out, and then I would rush towards avoidance and retribution in the name of ego boost by getting validation at the bar, on the apps, or reaching out to women who would still take my call, showing up, having sex with them, say I’d call them and I’d disappear into the ether for 6 months or longer and, then go back and rekindle my girlfriend who would be begging to return and she’d be intimate with me and was none the wiser. Absolutely and totally shameful way to live.
 
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I agree wholeheartedly. I have lots of wasted time and money in therapy.

People with massive egos, like me, who have an internal fragility, again like me that needs reassurance can easily put someone like a therapist on a pedestal - or some other person that’s is highly successful at soothing some pain point in their life. I am not infatuated with her any longer.

However, you can get real dopamine hits from real indications of interest from a therapist when you’re in a weak spot with a massive need to avoid pain and seek acceptance.

What I mean is that your therapist is a human being too and since they are not God, very likely possible they are in fact communicating either subtle or more overt choosing signals.

Really good ones I am sure won’t do that and cross the boundary but, the world is a big place and only 50% of it is secure.

People like me, anxious-avoidant, egotistical, don’t typically gravitate towards secure people either until the change happens within and willingness to sit and deal with the real pains of the issue. As such, not unlikely that in the process of finding professional help, two kindred spirits may connect in the therapeutic setting like they would socially.

Secure ones are more likely to be honest, which can be infuriating, as I have experienced plenty of times, and while they may keep seeing you with an optimism that you may change, it doesn’t mean the work will be done by the patient.

I may as well add this on the topic of therapeutic introspection: I am a child of severe abuse and emotional trauma and I suppressed it for so long - I didn’t even have an interest to do the real work until I lost my best friend and the truest love of my life. I was living wrong in every way - I am a d1ck and egotistical bastard on this forum - I was living fast and loose in my career - I was an a$$ in my former marriage, people were simply a means to an end for me, I always wanted my edge from what they did for me - and needless to say I applied that to the incredible human being whom took me and my children on and played Mom to them like nobody would imagine. So what did I do with that ego, I would first get massively angry, and talk trash, physically and emotionally act out, and then I would rush towards avoidance and retribution in the name of ego boost by getting validation at the bar, on the apps, or reaching out to women who would still take my call, showing up, having sex with them, say I’d call them and I’d disappear into the ether for 6 months or longer and, then go back and rekindle my girlfriend who would be begging to return and she’d be intimate with me and was none the wiser. Absolutely and totally shameful way to live.
I commend you for getting real with yourself. I also respect you sharing some of your own story. Many people can't or won't do that.

Now you can live in a more authentic way, and without the shame & the 'shoulds' BS. You can model healthier behavior for your own kids. I see similar patterns in my husband, who behaves in a similar way but I think is too bound up in trying to gain acceptance from mom & dad (subconsciously), and he cycles like that too (although I do not think he is cheating) emotionally.

He starts therapy & craps out after 2-3 sessions when the questions become pointed at HIS behavior. He's still wrestling with the objective reality of his ASD diagnosis which was authoritatively confirmed earlier this year and he cannot tell me I'm full of crap about that any more. He is generally conflict avoidant until he isn't and then we get the melt downs. Awesome.

I dealt with my own family of origin crap in my 20s, and then had a number of sobering life lessons through my first marriage & subsequent divorce. Interestingly my first husband openly agrees that I did the correct thing in leaving him. Why? Only then did his pain of existing become great enough for him to grapple with himself.

I have said many times here that loss is a brutal teacher. But there are those of us who need a hard lesson to pull our head out of our asses. I do not exclude myself in this, either. Some of us frankly are that dense, aka stubborn, aka strong.

But real strength lies in authenticity and being Ok with one's flaws, and that self acceptance makes tolerating imperfections in others much easier, much more graceful.

And therein lies authentic personal power. Limitless personal power and love.

I digress.

Things with my husband have been improving. He will always manifest some of the behavioral hallmarks of ASD, even though he also has some super sized abilities attributable to that operating system too...he is talking more about things that hurt, like his mother constantly choosing his younger brother over him (younger brother is mid-40s, very handsome/fit/successful but never married). He thinks his mother is jealous of my role in his life & frankly I agree. She was able to milk both sons for attention and affection at the drop of a hat, and yet she was neglectful of them and abandoned them as young boys and she expects them to jump if she reaches out, but she is in no hurry to reciprocate if my husband makes an effort.

My husband is becoming more & more aware of the manipulation of his mother, the gaslighting, the passive aggresiveness, the phoniness. Then in contrast he gets very direct messaging from me. I am not conflict averse & I call it like I see it. I've told him to call his mother up and ask her a direct question, to put her on the spot. I sit quietly and listen and she is on speaker. My mother-in-law will flatter him, stroke his ego, lie & act all unicorns and rainbows but if my husband presses her and keeps calling her out the flowery flattery parade ends abruptly, she turns on the waterworks and hangs up on him.

She never answers him or acknowledges her bad behavior.

But he can observe her attempts at manipulation in that way....and he is realizing some important things (not the least of which is the tremendous patience I am demonstrating in sticking with the marriage).

It has been an eye opening but sad journey for him as he becomes disillusioned.

But infatuation with the therapist is a known part of the journey....so I pick the therapists around here, lol.
 
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