Looks

[justaroundthecorner]

Several very handsome and popular men I grew up around, a little older than me, married early to Plane Janes. Some attractive guys don’t want the possible BS of a possibly narcissistic very pretty woman.

Most of the "Chad's" I'm acquainted with irl, ie guys who could be models, end up with women who are only above average ("7" say).
I kinda get why, because most truly hot women are pains in the ass, and "above average" is attractive enough
..but a female lawyer, of any level of hotness or lack thereof, has to be the very definition of a pain in the ass ¯\_㋡_/¯

Yeah, that's probably the reason (and a sound one) alas I'd want to propose a theory that guy like Clooney could find a unicorn - because even if for me there are no unicorns (because I'm not that special, just another guy) for him some women actually would go into unicorn mode. Perhaps he was just unlucky when it came to meeting the right woman.

Or perhaps... there are no unicorns

 

[Bigpapa]

Yeah, that's probably the reason (and a sound one) alas I'd want to propose a theory that guy like Clooney could find a unicorn - because even if for me there are no unicorns (because I'm not that special, just another guy) for him some women actually would go into unicorn mode. Perhaps he was just unlucky when it came to meeting the right woman.

Or perhaps... there are no unicorns

There is a difference between what you f8ck and what you marry / have a relationship with

in a LTR what matters the most is the attitude and if she does her part in the relationship.Looks you get bored after a while, no matter how hot the woman is

Most beautiful women are terrible partners because they are quite entitled and think they deserve everything without having to give anything of value in return ( just their vagina )

only insecure men prioritize looks over behavior in a relationship

Again, one thing is whom you have sex with and totally different thing is whom you have a LTR with

just a simple example, imagine having a very hot woman who is entitled having to take care of your children. They might get good genes, but for sure there is very likely that they will become very similar to their mother. I doubt that any sane guy would like his children to be entitled and thus having a good chance of becoming a loser

very likely the best LTR potential is between a girl being a 6 and an 8, as long as she has the right attitude, values and behavior

in the case of Clooney, maybe he likes women who are smart, educated and hardworking. You rarely see this mix in good looking women

“The family lives on a farm in France to raise them away from Hollywood's fame” - this is what it is said about Clooneys family. For sure his wife is family oriented, otherwise she would have wanted to stay in Hollywood and live the posh life there with other celebrities. For sure this is what most women would have wanted

 

[coldapproach]

f8ck

 

[coldapproach]

Money

 

[BeExcellent]

From the ladies' locker room:

Looks do matter, and they matter more than many men want to admit.

Before dating my first husband I dated a professional male model. He had jet black hair, ice blue eyes, chiseled jawline/brow/cheekbones, was 6'4" and about 175lbs, and vascular/muscular/lean. He was built like a greyhound in a way. Powerful but very trim.

He could wear fashion that looked like (and was) straight out of GQ, Vogue or Maxim from the Dolce Gabbana or Versace ads. Stuff 99.5% of other men would look ridiculous wearing....

And women fawned over him, approached and came onto him, threw themselves at him everywhere. He was initimidatingly handsome/beautiful.

He also was a businessman who built himself into being a millionaire.

So yes looks matter a lot.

But its true they only get you in the door at the end of the day. I ended up breaking things off with the model...that is a story for another day.

Looks/sexual desirability have always been my top criteria in choosing a man. I have to WANT him. Now. Many women do sacrifice in that way in favor of wealth/resources etc. That is how you end up with a dead bedroom and how seeds for cheating get planted. I never sold out in that area like many women do, and I am fortunate that I have looks sufficient to attract men I find desirable.

And as you see from the above it should be obvious I value additional characteristics on top of looks/desirability that determine longevity of a relationship (personality/intelligence/ambition (success), etc).

Wealth was never my no. 1. If it was I would have married serious multimillionaires for money....I certainly had enough opportunities to go that route.

The celebrity example of a great marriage where looks were on point lookswise and the relationship on point too was Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. Both were stunningly attractive people and like Clooney they raised family away from the Hollywood spotlight, and ended up building a great food business, Newman's Own as well.

Lets not fool ourselves, looks matter.

And water seeks its own level.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

From the ladies' locker room:

Looks do matter, and they matter more than many men want to admit.

Before dating my first husband I dated a professional male model. He had jet black hair, ice blue eyes, chiseled jawline/brow/cheekbones, was 6'4" and about 175lbs, and vascular/muscular/lean. He was built like a greyhound in a way. Powerful but very trim.

He could wear fashion that looked like (and was) straight out of GQ, Vogue or Maxim from the Dolce Gabbana or Versace ads. Stuff 99.5% of other men would look ridiculous wearing....

And women fawned over him, approached and came onto him, threw themselves at him everywhere. He was initimidatingly handsome/beautiful.

He also was a businessman who built himself into being a millionaire.

So yes looks matter a lot.

But its true they only get you in the door at the end of the day. I ended up breaking things off with the model...that is a story for another day.

Looks/sexual desirability have always been my top criteria in choosing a man. I have to WANT him. Now. Many women do sacrifice in that way in favor of wealth/resources etc. That is how you end up with a dead bedroom and how seeds for cheating get planted. I never sold out in that area like many women do, and I am fortunate that I have looks sufficient to attract men I find desirable.

And as you see from the above it should be obvious I value additional characteristics on top of looks/desirability that determine longevity of a relationship (personality/intelligence/ambition (success), etc).

Wealth was never my no. 1. If it was I would have married serious multimillionaires for money....I certainly had enough opportunities to go that route.

The celebrity example of a great marriage where looks were on point lookswise and the relationship on point too was Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. Both were stunningly attractive people and like Clooney they raised family away from the Hollywood spotlight, and ended up building a great food business, Newman's Own as well.

Lets not fool ourselves, looks matter.

And water seeks its own level.

I view it as looks give you a lot more opportunities for auditions, but what you do with those auditions comes down to other qualities you have.

If you continuously screw them up, your looks won't do much for you.

 

[jhonny9546]

I have to WANT him. Now.

How do you carry this desire into the long term?

 

[zekko]

My wife is more attractive than Clooney's wife.
Clooney fckdp up.

Probably the 21 year old newlywed down the street who married an 18 year old has a more attractive wife too, since younger girls are just prettier.

People have different tastes. I've always thought the ideal girlfriend is one that you find extremely attractive, but maybe the general public isn't so into her - that way she doesn't get hounded by guys wherever she goes. Because I've had attractive girlfriends who had that effect. Also, Clooney is 64 and has a 17 year age difference, that's not bad. The other thing is I'm sure Clooney has dated plenty of hotties, and realized that really doesn't have that much meaning. The important thing is that he likes her for her, and her personality, and that she complements him and suits his needs. Different people have different chemistries together, and it isn't all dependent on looks.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Maybe Clooney feels that certain somethin somethin with Amai - that energy, chemistry whatever we wish to call it, that he didn't feel with the other women, not enough that made him want to commit.

Yes of course looks matter! A lot! BUT when that chemistry/energy is there which is intangible and can't even be described, it can cause another man's 6 to become a 9-10 in his smitten eyes!

So to him, Amai is the most sexy, the most beautiful women he's ever known!

When I lived and worked in NYC, I was surrounded by male models, a few asked me out but I always declined, why?

Because although they were attractive physically (obviously) I wasn't "attracted to" them, I didn't feel that pull, that energy with any of them. When I don't feel that pull, a man's good looks doesn't mean a hill of beans to me!

So yeah looks are important but beauty is so subjective, in the eye of the beholder. What's truly important imo is that two people feel that "click," again that special somethin somethin that goes deeper than looks or status or money.

And again when it's there and happening between two people, it can cause each of them to think their partner is the most beautiful, sexy person in the whole world!

That's how it works at least for me. And I suspect Clooney and Warren Beatty as well as although his wife of 20+ years is attractive (Annette Bening) he's dated much hotter women!

But clearly that "somethin" was missing with those other women but with Annette, they're still very much in love after 20+ years; I actually saw them together having dinner one night when they were in SD. My boyfriend at the time and I were dining in the same restaurant and honestly they looked so cute together, like they had just met!

 

[BaronOfHair]

I view it as looks give you a lot more opportunities for auditions, but what you do with those auditions comes down to other qualities you have

Yep, attractive guys get hired more often, are more likely to get promoted, AND frequently get breaks from everyone from restaurants to the criminal justice system. And this is actually TERRIFIC news, given that it's(in many respects anyway) much easier for us to become more handsome than it is for a mid-ugly woman to become beautiful

Ex. Even as teens and 20somethings, nothing short of highly intensive plastic surgery was going to make either Sarah Jessica Parker or Leslie Jones even marginally comparable to Christy Turlington or Naomi Campbell

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Yep, attractive guys get hired more often, are more likely to get promoted, AND frequently get breaks from everyone from restaurants to the criminal justice system. And this is actually TERRIFIC news, given that it's(in many respects anyway) much easier for us to become more handsome than it is for a mid-ugly woman to become beautiful

I would argue that it is extremely difficult to become handsome. However, it isn't that hard for an ugly guy to become average, or maybe, slightly above.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I would argue that it is extremely difficult to become handsome

I said MORE handsome than we naturally are. Obviously, a dude who fell out of the womb with Chris Rock-esque looks isn't going to become a clone of Idris Elba. Doesn't mean he can't bulk up his physique, deepen his voice, and become less goofy though

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I said MORE handsome than we naturally are. Obviously, a dude who fell out of the womb with Chris Rock-esque looks isn't going to become a clone of Idris Elba. Doesn't mean he can't bulk up his physique, deepen his voice, and become less goofy though

Almost everyone can improve their looks. However, very few can become Handsome.

 

[BaronOfHair]

However, very few can become Handsome

Yeah, just as there will always be Seth Rogens among us who remain irredeemably douchey personality-wise, there will always be men who choose to NOT accentuate their aesthetic appeal. Which is sad and pathetic, given that even the dude who played Lip Gallagher has been able to mold himself into a Calvin Klein model

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If you continuously screw them up, your looks won't do much for you.

Actually. You can be an idiotic clueless dork, but if you are GL, women will pull your pants down.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If you're ugly there ain't nothing you can do about it really, so why worry about it? I know there are guys out there who are ugly but get laid consistently with decent looking women so I'm not worried about it. Maybe you won't have a harem of Victoria secret models at your beck and call if you're not good looking but I believe you can still attract decent looking girls.

Years ago, I used to club with a bunch of guys. One of us, 'Eddie' was ugly. But he did well. I asked my Chad friend how 'Eddie' managed to score. He said: 'Eddie tries.'

 

[tksniper]

A man that thinks looks matter the most is a man that gets by on his looks.

A man that thinks money matters the most is a man that gets by on his money.

A man that thinks charisma matters the most is a man that gets by on his charisma.

This might be true. I was a good looking guy in high school and my best friend was also good with girls with his game but he kept asking me about style. I would just tell him to wear whatever I wore and it would never work for him. At some point he became frustrated with me and claimed I'm always telling him to do what I do but it never works for him. But what he didn't Realize was that he had a perfect framework that got girls for him. He was the game guy, I was the looks guy. In his effort to become the looks guy, it just drove him to more frustration.

Not everyone is meant to be the looks guy. And if you weren't born with good genetics, don't even try. But the good news is good looking people are rare, yet billions of people are still having sex.

To put this into perspective, if I tried to become the "game guy", women will think "Why is this good looking guy trying so hard?".

For ugly guys trying to looks max, it is just as incongruent as a good looking guy trying to game max. It's not coherent with your persona.

If you are jealous of effortless good looking guys, just remember good looking guys are equally jealous of average looking dudes who could pick up hotties with their game. They will question their own gym regimen, amount of money they spend on facial products, and wonder if it even makes a difference.