“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Cheeky_James

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Hey guys.
I need some of your best banter lines for online dating. My online game sucks atm , I am losing chicks left and right on the chats and can’t hook ‘em to move things along to a meetup. Im pretty sure it’s my forgetting to do some kind of light banter from the start …my mind goes blank when I try to think of stuff when im on the chat.

Everything I come across online seems lame or too tame .. but probably would work better than what I’m doing tbh.
I’m rereading The Game atm to jog my memory.

Is there a resource /thread on here re banter stuff.

All material appreciated cheers !
Jim

Ps - I have no problem IRL on dates , just on the chat strangely.
 
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Hey guys.
I need some of your best banter lines for online dating. My online game sucks atm , I am losing chicks left and right on the chats and can’t hook ‘em to move things along to a meetup. Im pretty sure it’s my forgetting to do some kind of light banter from the start …my mind goes blank when I try to think of stuff when im on the chat.

Everything I come across online seems lame or too tame .. but probably would work better than what I’m doing tbh.
I’m rereading The Game atm to jog my memory.

Is there a resource /thread on here re banter stuff.

All material appreciated cheers !
Jim

Ps - I have no problem IRL on dates , just on the chat strangely.
Start posting chats. You’re under no obligation to respond to them immediately. Waiting will help you seem busy and mysterious. We will do our best to help you.
 

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I just started using OLD to supplement just approaching and meeting in RL

I keep the banter to a minimum. I’ve been relying on women to like me first and I’ve had a very steady stream of interest and dates.

I’ve also just started making the first move.

My m.o. is always comment on something interesting we have in common . I never like a glamor foto - always a action foto or some quote they make or something in their profile.

These women are used to and tired of hungry saps salivating over some pic at the beach or like that

I feel they really appreciate the more sophisticated and unique approach. It really is like giving candy to a kid..they gobble it up and are very responsive from the get go

my $.02
 

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Hey guys.
I need some of your best banter lines for online dating. My online game sucks atm , I am losing chicks left and right on the chats and can’t hook ‘em to move things along to a meetup. Im pretty sure it’s my forgetting to do some kind of light banter from the start …my mind goes blank when I try to think of stuff when im on the chat.

Everything I come across online seems lame or too tame .. but probably would work better than what I’m doing tbh.
I’m rereading The Game atm to jog my memory.

Is there a resource /thread on here re banter stuff.

All material appreciated cheers !
Jim

Ps - I have no problem IRL on dates , just on the chat strangely.
Cut and paste some specific examples
 

Cheeky_James

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Cut and paste some specific examples
Uhh whats the point in posting my interactions I don’t get that.
It’ll just be examples of flat /go nowhere exchanges of boring convo,

So between the 3 of you ..not a single banter line. FML. ‍:( there must be hundreds of general lines I can use surely.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Alright here’s an old one .
This was me experimenting with different approaches re texting after mucho fizzled out chats.
This chick was curvy but had a good face.
I just went direct to see what would happen.

M
13 Aug > Ping + note

Me;
Hey there
nice bio. How are
you going on here

Her;
Hey there, I'm going alright I suppose and how's about you?

me;
Cutie
Her;
Who's a cutie? Me or you?

Me;
Well you.. both also both of us
Me;
We should hook up

Her;
Oh straight to the point eh?

Me;
Yeah

Her;
Don't wanna get to know me and see what happens?
—————-

I waited too long to reply and 2 days later she disconnected . What’s the analysis of this,
 

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Hey there
nice bio. How are
you going on here
Your banter here is less of a problem than your approach. It would've been far more deft to express your desires outright, with words to the effect:

"You're remarkably alluring, both physically and mentally. Drop by (insert location and time)... I want to see, speak with, and run my hands over you, in the flesh"
 

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From that interaction we are to assume that all you have to offer is your d1ck and that it is worth nothing since you are willing to give it away for free.

Completely flat, boring convo and then let's fvck.... but you actually still may have had a chance to convert based on her reply. Stop the one word messages that offer absolutely nothing. What are you looking for in a woman? Start screening for these characteristics.

The goal of initial messaging is to set up an in person meeting then you can escalate physically once she is in front of you.
 

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Her:
Oh straight to the point eh?
Me;
Yeah
Her;
Don't wanna get to know me and see what happens?
—————-
I waited too long to reply and 2 days later she disconnected . What’s the analysis of this,
I think that’s fine.

Why did you wait so long to reply?
 

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Alright here’s an old one .
This was me experimenting with different approaches re texting after mucho fizzled out chats.
This chick was curvy but had a good face.
I just went direct to see what would happen.

M
13 Aug > Ping + note

Me;
Hey there
nice bio. How are
you going on here

Her;
Hey there, I'm going alright I suppose and how's about you?

me;
Cutie
Her;
Who's a cutie? Me or you?

Me;
Well you.. both also both of us
Me;
We should hook up

Her;
Oh straight to the point eh?

Me;
Yeah

Her;
Don't wanna get to know me and see what happens?
—————-

I waited too long to reply and 2 days later she disconnected . What’s the analysis of this,

Its just pointless OLD waffle that two members of the opposite sex have when they know nothing about each other and are matching for the sake of matching

This chick must have been pretty desperate to even entertain this pointless nonsense

Get off the apps and into the real world you're 41 years of age ffs
 

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From that interaction we are to assume that all you have to offer is your d1ck and that it is worth nothing since you are willing to give it away for free.

Completely flat, boring convo and then let's fvck.... but you actually still may have had a chance to convert based on her reply. Stop the one word messages that offer absolutely nothing. What are you looking for in a woman? Start screening for these characteristics.

The goal of initial messaging is to set up an in person meeting then you can escalate physically once she is in front of you.
That was an experiment with just going direct after many go nowhere interactions trying to connect on things and also screening etc. didn’t get me much tbh, I think the girls get bored and leave the chat.

btw can you please give me some examples of how you would screen for what characteristics you want in a woman.
 
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I think that’s fine.

Why did you wait so long to reply?
Thanks. Yeah agreed. It can all happen quite quickly if she’s just looking for fun.

It was an experiment for me w simple direct stuff. I took her last reply as **** test of some sort.
I went off to a forum to get advice but it took too long and she disconnected.

maybe it was just token resistance (?)
 
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@Cheeky_James

An old guy once said, "you know what the difference between making love and rape is?" It's salesmanship son, salesmanship.

You know what the difference between talking about hooking up, and actually hooking up is? It's salesmanship.

This wasn't token resistance, this wasn't a schitt test. This is pure stupidity and lack of effort on your part. ZERO Salesmanship.

There isn't a girl out there that wants to feel like all you want her for is sex.

This girl left the chat because you decided to play games on your response time and it confirmed her suspicion that all you wanted her for was a free wh0re.

One word sentences, boring "how are you" questions, telling her she is cute, we should fuhk. Do some digging on this forum. There is tons of advice on how to be successful at online dating. Go do your homework, stop asking for someone to serve it to you on a silver platter just like you wanted this girl to do.
 
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Does anyone have any banter lines or examples of back and forth banter.

yknow, teasing, framing, screening etc ..

any material at all much appreciated.

or suggestions for books, courses etc that you found helpful for learning.
 
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Alright here’s an old one .
This was me experimenting with different approaches re texting after mucho fizzled out chats.
This chick was curvy but had a good face.
I just went direct to see what would happen.

M
13 Aug > Ping + note

Me;
Hey there
nice bio. How are
you going on here

Her;
Hey there, I'm going alright I suppose and how's about you?

me;
Cutie
Her;
Who's a cutie? Me or you?

Me;
Well you.. both also both of us
Me;
We should hook up

Her;
Oh straight to the point eh?

Me;
Yeah

Her;
Don't wanna get to know me and see what happens?
—————-

I waited too long to reply and 2 days later she disconnected . What’s the analysis of this,
If this is the best you are capable of, ask ChatGPT to write texts for you. I'm not even joking. Based on the above exchange, your texting skills are sub-autistic level.
 

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If this is the best you are capable of, ask ChatGPT to write texts for you. I'm not even joking. Based on the above exchange, your texting skills are sub-autistic level.
no it was just an experiment,
With an interesting outcome imo.
If the chick was uninterested , she could have left the chat immediately after the hookup proposal.
But she did not.
 
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OP if you're not good with witty banter, you want to communicate Displays of Higher Value (DHV) instead. Find some unique, good things about you that stand out (places you've traveled, expensive toys (motorcycle, etc) you may have and upscale venues you have been to. Make a list of cool attributes about yourself and drop them throughout the convo. (i.e., the coolest lounges you've been to over the past year, and the best vacations you've taken) and act like you have recently done them to make yourself seem more interesting than you are (yes I know this is exaggerating to the point of BS, but this is online dating).

Think of your conversations as an instagram account, only use words instead of pics. And if the chick asks, no you don't have insta, you're "old school".

This should work as long as your pics aren't boring. If you project an intriguing personality or have interesting pics (you in a cool/unique/upscale location), this should work.
 

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Also, if you want to work on your wit do some free association and stream of consciousness exercises to sharpen your wordsmithery and improve your imagination.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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