"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jesse Pinkman's approach/field reports thread.

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Going out solo is a pain.
I have done it before. It's a meh to me.

It's my only option because I don't have anyone in my life willing to accompany me to bars. That's been the case for many years as my friends have married off and formed families.

Solo approaching is a better fit for non-bar venues. Non-bar approaching has its own set of downsides.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Share some strategies then man!
1. Go out. 2. Sit down at or hang out around the bar. 3. Talk to people, particularly women you find attractive. There's not much to it but most men won't do it.

I'm not really a club guy, so it was always venues where chatting is possible. Also - works better on weeknights (esp. Thursday) then on weekends. Helps a lot if it's a local bar and your bartenders know you.

What do you think it's a pain?
 

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1. Go out. 2. Sit down at or hang out around the bar. 3. Talk to people, particularly women you find attractive. There's not much to it but most men won't do it.

I'm not really a club guy, so it was always venues where chatting is possible. Also - works better on weeknights (esp. Thursday) then on weekends. Helps a lot if it's a local bar and your bartenders know you.

What do you think it's a pain?
I think I find it hard to talk to dudes in most cases and am just now getting out of that rut. However, my game has been falling flat lately. I think a mixture of work stress and life circumstances will do that to you. Trying to get it mentally right.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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work stress and life circumstances will do that to you.
White collar workers are stressed out right now. White collar work has been in a recession since 2023. White collar layoffs are rising.


It's a bad time to be a white collar worker.

A lot of white collar workers are married. Married men often lose their wives when layoffs happen. Men with unmarried girlfriends are the first ones to get broken with up in a job loss. Married women rarely ever see their husbands file for divorce. Unmarried women rarely will lose a boyfriend over a job loss.
 

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I think I find it hard to talk to dudes in most cases and am just now getting out of that rut. However, my game has been falling flat lately. I think a mixture of work stress and life circumstances will do that to you. Trying to get it mentally right.
I hear that. Probably like anything else, just a habit I get into or out of. Also if something good happens it can make me more social. If I'm in a rut I don't feel like being out. Maybe I shouldn't let those circumstances dictate my social life so much.
 

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How often do you run in to guys that tell you they cold approach women, but just sit there in a corner and do nothing and actually say nothing to women when you bring women to them? My friend goes out but literally does this and makes excuses on why he can’t be successful instead of actually trying. It’s like showing up to class and just focusing on your phone the whole time.
 

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I have tried recently to to open women with a simple 'hey'. I prefer that, it dose'nt come off as desperate/needy as a typical Neil Strauss/Mystery opener. However i've found it to be unsucessful compared to PUA openers.
The typical PUA opener grabs her attention more, stops her in her tracks more.
The smile and 'hey' that a lot of guys reconmennd just dose'nt work, she just gets awkward and continues on her way.
"hey can i get your opinion on something works a LOT more in my experience.
 

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How often do you run in to guys that tell you they cold approach women, but just sit there in a corner and do nothing and actually say nothing to women when you bring women to them? My friend goes out but literally does this and makes excuses on why he can’t be successful instead of actually trying. It’s like showing up to class and just focusing on your phone the whole time.
It would depend on where we were sat i.e if my friends were bringing a woman to me then sat there as a spectator, it would'nt suit me. I like to get personal with a women. I would'nt feel comfortable with a guy sitting there watching.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How often do you run in to guys that tell you they cold approach women, but just sit there in a corner and do nothing and actually say nothing to women when you bring women to them?
Never.

The men that I know in real life are generally married men who haven't been approaching in 10+ years.

Some of those men had to use dating websites/dating apps in order to get into their current relationship. Others got into it from social circle. There are some men in my circle who did get into their current relationship off of a bar approach.
 

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Never.

The men that I know in real life are generally married men who haven't been approaching in 10+ years.

Some of those men had to use dating websites/dating apps in order to get into their current relationship. Others got into it from social circle. There are some men in my circle who did get into their current relationship off of a bar approach.
Any guys you that was successful off a non bar cold approach
 

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Any guys you that was successful off a non bar cold approach
I have been the biggest practitioner of non-bar cold approach among all the people that I know. I have been the one who has been most successful with it.

I don't know anyone in real life in a current relationship that was formed from a non-bar cold approach.

I know 2 guys with triple digit notch counts and neither has been a non-bar cold approacher.

The first one (now married) was always a bar cold approach who only slightly dabbled in dating websites/apps. He got into an exclusive relationship in the mid-2010s. He did well in bougie bars as a 6'4" White male who was a former NCAA athlete in a country club sport.

The second one is in his late 50s and has been exclusively a dating website/dating app seducer since the 2000s.

The majority of my blue pill ideology friends/acquaintances got into their relationships either from social circle, bar approaches, or websites/apps.
 
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