Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This one goes deep.I would agree with this. It’s typically other men who say things like:
“He’s a decent looking guy.”
“He’s an average (or slightly above/below average) looking guy.”
“He’s not a bad looking guy.”
Women don’t usually rate guys that way. It’s more binary. It’s typically more like:
“He’s hot/cute.”
Or
<Crickets>
I do think men have a broader scale tho...I'm sexually attacted to many types of women. Personality and values can make a 6 a 8 to me.No, it's much simpler. The world is divided in people you're sexually attracted to, and people you're not attracted to. Different for everyone, but you don't pursue ALL women, only the ones you're attracted to. And so does she.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Quite spot on.Saw this comment and felt like it belongs here.
I do think it's eye opening. Ofcourse it's black and white but it might make it easier to STEP OUT when you notice she isn't "that " much into you.
Discuss.
I disagree.Just because men are not very critical where they put their trouser snakes, it stands to reason that what a guy thinks is attractive is not the same as a woman's perspective, but if you're a man with discerning tastes, you don't go after everything with a pulse and a pvssy.
Because women are on the receiving end, most of them (but not all) tend to be discerning who they allow to fvck them, but I don't think they look at men like 'hey, a nine or ten' they will just get tingles. And they don't see the men they are not attracted to. Just invisible. They are looking at the attractive men.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Both are cancers on society and deserve the emptiness their indulging each other inWhat do you think is worse?
A guy who gives his time and resources in hopes he will eventually fvck the chick
or
A woman who takes all the time and resources knowing whole heartily she will never fvck the guy.
HUGE exaggeration and cope, even in 2024.Saw this comment and felt like it belongs here.
I do think it's eye opening. Ofcourse it's black and white but it might make it easier to STEP OUT when you notice she isn't "that " much into you.
Discuss.
Im not disagreeing (or agreeing) with you but that word..."Cope". Apologies to @Gamisch in advance for a slight thread derailment but some days I feel like SoSuave is basically a bunch of:HUGE exaggeration and cope, even in 2024.
Men do the same., its also revealing just how many guys individual women are actually involving themselves with at one
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I can verify this as truth. I have above average facial aesthetics, have actively exercised throughout my life, have a normal range BMI, Norwood 1 - 1.5 on balding (minimal), and 5'10" height. I've really had to battle over the years to get attention and keep attraction.But 7 won't cut it in today's landscape..
We create models when we are with other people we like. Yes, you might not like me because I'm short and I'm not a 10, but that 5 you gave me at first glance might become an 8 after some time spent in proximity and exposure. This is because a human being will create a model of any person he or she meets, based on the standard model of the "objectively attractive person" dictated by our human history and the society we live in. After spending time together, you’ll become more attractive because this model will shift from an objective one to a subjective one, varying from person to person.Saw this comment and felt like it belongs here.
I do think it's eye opening. Ofcourse it's black and white but it might make it easier to STEP OUT when you notice she isn't "that " much into you.
Discuss.
Don't know about this bro.Women's opinions change significantly the more they get to know you tho.
Initially they may rate you as a "0" but after 6 months of being around you, they might not be able to stop thinking about you.
Looks are important especially in the beginning but their importance fades over time as they begin to appreciate other qualities.
THIS!!Quite spot on.
And curiously not black and white at all.
The thing is, you just don't have to be repulsive. Which means you are a 0.
This is actually the reason this whole forum exists.
Every chick is up for grabs.
It depends only a 100% on you, and what are you doing with your life. That's attraction.
... You being physically a hot 10 does help tho.
It's not copeIm not disagreeing (or agreeing) with you but that word..."Cope". Apologies to @Gamisch in advance for a slight thread derailment but some days I feel like SoSuave is basically a bunch of:
"You dont want to ride the town bicycle? Its because you are insecure"
"I cant believe what you said is possible, you are a troll or you are coping".
But there´s good stuff in here too. We have to ignore the stuff that is useless to us and take advantage of all the good stuff.
Mini-rant over. Carry on guys.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.