Article: Young adults are having heart attacks more often — What’s causing it?

[mbc0029]

Could Energy Drinks be a possible cause?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Actor and former athlete Carl Weathers’ cause of death was released; atherosclerotic heart disease. Certainly not a young man, but it is the #1 cause of death. Sad.

 

[Machine10033]

I personally give two sh!ts about the vaccine debate.. get it.. or don’t... doesn’t matter to me but I will tell you my experience with it. I got my second shot and went to donate blood a few weeks later. I was turned away because of blood pressure. 165/105.... I have a home monitor so began monitoring it for the next month or so.... slowly it began to return to normal. I was perfect for a year... got the booster.... boom again spike in blood pressure and this time I had my yearly blood work. High rbc, hemoglobin and hematocrit.... I am ocd with my health so scheduled additional blood work 6 months later.... changed nothing except got further removed from my booster and my blood was perfect again and my blood pressure.

I am of the opinion if someone was already in the unhealthy territory with certain blood markets, or blood pressure... the vax might be enough to spike you into the danger zone. I have seen more and more “healthy” looking young people drop over.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I am of the opinion if someone was already in the unhealthy territory with certain blood markets, or blood pressure... the vax might be enough to spike you into the danger zone. I have seen more and more “healthy” looking young people drop over.

It’s a nice opinion. That’s all it is. Fortunately, this is an evidence based issue. We know what causes heart disease and cardiac arrests.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

@Machine10033

None of the journals I searched show any incidence of polycythemia or high blood pressure correlated with the COVID-19 vaccine.

Were you on any other meds at the time? Do you use exogenous androgens? Or have you? That is often the #1 cause of polycythemia and high BP.

Were the times when these abnormal values were detected the only times you'd had a CBC or BP taken? Or did you monitor your BP regularly before these incidents?

 

[itouchyou]

None of the journals I searched show any incidence of polycythemia or high blood pressure correlated with the COVID-19 vaccine.

None of the journals will ever show evidence because they are controlled by Pharma.

 

[soulforge]

It's crazy to me, that a bunch of otherwise rational, sane & logical men, will discuss this serious matter of sudden deaths, and will bring up all variety of possible causes..

Did they drink too many red bulls?

Maybe he wasn't getting enough fibre in his diet?

Maybe they strained too hard while taking a poop on the toilet?

But the one foreign agent that was injected into these folks bodies, absolutely could never be the cause right..

Nothing to see here sir, now move along!

 

[EyeBRollin]

But the one foreign agent that was injected into these folks bodies, absolutely could never be the cause right..

I’ll ask again- show causal evidence that covid-19 vaccines cause heart attacks.

 

[soulforge]

I’ll ask again- show causal evidence that covid-19 vaccines cause heart attacks.

Show me the evidence Red Bull did it?

I'm simply stating we shouldn't rule it out.. a logical person would look at ALL POSSIBILITIES and causes, and all possible causes should be open for discussion.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Show me the evidence Red Bull did it?

No one in here said that Red Bull specifically caused it. However, there have been numerous studies on the effects of energy drinks on the cardiovascular system.

I'm simply stating we shouldn't rule it out.. a logical person would look at ALL POSSIBILITIES and causes, and all possible causes should be open for discussion.

Sure. Let’s discuss. Provide some studies on the effect of the Pfizer and Moderna covid-19 vaccine on heart attacks and sudden cardiac arrests. Let’s contrast those with the covid-19 virus itself.

No innuendos. Let’s discuss actual research.

 

[Murk]

Definitely not the Vax.

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It's anecdotal but a guy I went to school with died from a heart attack 2 years ago he was 32 years old. Married with 2 kids. My friend working in the hospital was about to do CPR when he was rushed in but recognised him and someone else had to step in.

 

[EyeBRollin]

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It's anecdotal but a guy I went to school with died from a heart attack 2 years ago he was 32 years old. Married with 2 kids. My friend working in the hospital was about to do CPR when he was rushed in but recognised him and someone else had to step in.

Heart attack or cardiac arrest?

Smoker? Drugs? Obese? Family history?

 

[Murk]

Heart attack or cardiac arrest?

Smoker? Drugs? Obese? Family history?

He wasn't a friend so I don't know the details, he wasn't obese though. He was a nerd/weirdo in school, you know the type, so I highly doubt he smoked or did drugs, but you never know.

 

[EyeBRollin]

He wasn't a friend so I don't know the details, he wasn't obese though. He was a nerd/weirdo in school, you know the type, so I highly doubt he smoked or did drugs, but you never know.

The details matter.

If it was a cardiac arrest (complete heart stop), it is an electrical problem of the heart. In young men those are defects from birth or freak accidents such as a severe chest impact (Damar Hamlin) or electrocution.

If it was a heart attack, there was an interruption in blood flow to the heart muscle. Either via clot or clogged arteries.

How can we speculate to a cause of the details are unknown.?

 

[Murk]

The details matter.

If it was a cardiac arrest (complete heart stop), it is an electrical problem of the heart. In young men those are defects from birth or freak accidents such as a severe chest impact (Damar Hamlin) or electrocution.

If it was a heart attack, there was an interruption in blood flow to the heart muscle. Either via clot or clogged arteries.

How can we speculate to a cause of the details are unknown.?

Maybe I can make some calls, we can dig him up and perform a biopsy for you?

A healthy 32-year-old man dying from a heart attack (my nurse friend's exact words to me), is rather odd to me personally. I said it was anecdotal, it's not my fault you wanted to be a guinea pig (I can only assume you've taken it due to your frantic abnormal responses to my simple comment). I didn't speculate on a cause, you did, I stated the facts.

 

[Machine10033]

Largest Covid Vaccine Study Yet Finds Links to Health Conditions

Vaccines that protect against severe illness, death and lingering long Covid symptoms from a coronavirus infection were linked to small increases in neurological, blood, and heart-related conditions in the largest global vaccine safety study to date.

www.bloomberg.com

This was over all the news joints today... seems the largest study into the vaccine yet shows a small increase in neurological, blood and heart issues in those that received the vaccine.

Again I am not anti vax but if there are adverse reactions people already at risk for these issues could make a more educated decision... it’s not always strictly black
And white the vaccine probably caused health issues in some people but also saved many lives as well.

 

[soulforge]

Largest Covid Vaccine Study Yet Finds Links to Health Conditions

Vaccines that protect against severe illness, death and lingering long Covid symptoms from a coronavirus infection were linked to small increases in neurological, blood, and heart-related conditions in the largest global vaccine safety study to date.

www.bloomberg.com

This was over all the news joints today... seems the largest study into the vaccine yet shows a small increase in neurological, blood and heart issues in those that received the vaccine.

Again I am not anti vax but if there are adverse reactions people already at risk for these issues could make a more educated decision... it’s not always strictly black
And white the vaccine probably caused health issues in some people but also saved many lives as well.

Sssssh... It was the Red Bull

 

[EyeBRollin]

A healthy 32-year-old man dying from a heart attack (my nurse friend's exact words to me), is rather odd to me personally.

I said it was anecdotal, it's not my fault you wanted to be a guinea pig (I can only assume you've taken it due to your frantic abnormal responses to my simple comment). I didn't speculate on a cause, you did, I stated the facts.

It is abnormal for the general population. Not odd if he had FH (familial hypercholesterolemia).

This was over all the news joints today... seems the largest study into the vaccine yet shows a small increase in neurological, blood and heart issues in those that received the vaccine.

Again I am not anti vax but if there are adverse reactions people already at risk for these issues could make a more educated decision... it’s not always strictly black
And white the vaccine probably caused health issues in some people but also saved many lives as well.

There is a paywall to the link. The devil is in the details.

Is the "small increase" in those who took the covid-19 vaccine and never had covid-19?
Or is the increase among those who had the covid-19 vaccine and contracted covid-19?
What is the baseline increase relative to those who never took the covid-19 vaccine and had covid-19?
What is the baseline increase relative to those who never took the covid-19 vaccine and never had covid-19?

Did they isolate each of these variables?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Sssssh... It was the Red Bull

Interesting that someone who claims to have almost died from covid-19 yet refused to take the covid-19 vaccine would peg heart attacks on the vaccine rather than the virus:

Even though I have had COVID twice & once it was a pretty serious case, with the Delta variant, I refused to get vacci-nated.

I myself had CV19 and let me tell you, it effected nearly all my vital organs.

The part of my brain that regulates unconscious breathing had stopped working.. I would sleep for one hour, then suddenly wake up gasping for breath, as my oxygen levels dropped to a dangerous 84% in my sleep.

For around two months, I slept only 2 hours per night, then sometimes I stayed awake for 2-3 days in a row without any sleep at all.

Things actually became worse.. The lack of oxygen began to effect the blood circulation in my left arm and hand.. I lost feeling in my left hand and my fear turned to permanent tissue damage resulting in amputation.

As for lasting symptoms.. 6-7 months on.

01.My lung capacity isn't what it used to be

02.I still stop breathing in my sleep but to a lesser extent.

03.I have chronic fatigue syndrome

a virus like that could never cause lasting heart issues... could it?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

a virus like that could never cause lasting heart issues... could it?

Cut him some slack, he hasn’t gotten laid in more than a month!