Cold Approach: Are local women a waste of time in any major US city you game in?

[Jesse Pinkman]

I reflected on my experiences in both NYC and even down here in Miami, noticed a trend. Tourist women and newly arrived women have always been great opportunities and the ones most DTF. When I say newly arrived, that is kind of a grey area I guess. In some ways, a woman can be in a city for over a year but if she is not engrained into that city's culture or feels disconnected from it, she is fair game and tends to be down to meeting dudes through cold approach.

However, I have noticed that local women tend to be a pain to deal with.

It is almost like for one, they have this air of superiority to them if they grew up in a given major city. I have talked to some local girls who told me they were getting into nightclubs like LIV when they were 15! WTF is going on here @MixedMutt00 and @IKO69 come on guys lol.

The other thing I notice with local women is that they seem to be prudes and always assume the worst when you approach them. They automatically give you more sh*t tests.

Finally, I realize you are always dealing with a large social circle whenever you do approach them. They have the friend group from high school and college you are dealing with. There is always that judgment they have to put up with because it seems like their friends are always watching them.

Even in daygame, I find that the tourists are far less receptive and far more suspicious. I am sure locals like @MixedMutt00 and @IKO69 can speak about this phenomenon better for their city. However, I am interested in hearing from @In2theGame about the locals in the NY area from his take as well given that he is a NYer.

It makes me wonder if a good screening question is to just ask if they are local. I almost want to respond with "Yeah yeah, I get it, you're no fun" or "so you're no fun" to almost label local women as that prude. Maybe even play games with them such as "yes yes headmaster, I am behaving, don't go all Catholic nun with the ruler on me". Or better yet, just avoid local women altogether?

 

[Velasco]

Finally, I realize you are always dealing with a large social circle whenever you do approach them. They have the friend group from high school and college you are dealing with. There is always that judgment they have to put up with because it seems like their friends are always watching them.

My girl (who i cold approach same night laid her) is exactly as you describe here. As with everything with regards to cold approach, it's not about tourist vs local, but about being at the right place, at the right time.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

no.

 

[tksniper]

When women want to hook up, they usually leave their “stomping grounds.” That’s why tourist chicks appear more dtf for you. They come from somewhere else. And the women in YOUR area are a pain to you but complete sloots to guys in foreign countries.

 

[SW15]

Dallas is not a big tourist destination. Your overall idea translates somewhat well in Dallas.

Dallas has a lot of transplanted adults. Dallas social circles tend to be weaker as a result of transplants. People aren't closed off here. Stranger approaches are usually at least cordial and there isn't any hostility to outsiders, unlike some other areas of the USA. The rootless nature of a lot of transplanted to Dallas adults leads to a lot of app-based dating, which puts men in a more difficult position. The better play is to approach strangers and join in on whatever in-person events that you can attend.

The weak social circles do contribute to Dallas' pretentious reputation. Because a lot of people are meeting strangers, there are no consequences for bad behavior. When there's no attachment, women can be as superficial as they please.

While I've been focused on transplanted adults to Dallas, there are people who grew up in the Dallas area who have remained in the Dallas area as adults. Getting into one of the social circles with Dallas natives with strong roots isn't that easy to do. It's a lot like getting into a top fraternity at a university. Most transplanted adults to Dallas won't get into those or they will be on the fringes of them. Additionally, a lot of the Dallas natives who go to local high schools, then possibly go to some university within Texas (maybe even Southern Methodist or Texan Christian locally) and then settle in Dallas as adults tend to get married earlier in life, settle into the suburbs, and have children. Some of those people might be your co-workers but you won't be spending your leisure time with them.

The adult transplants tend to dominate the apps. Very few women who grew up in Dallas are on the swipe apps. They can meet people in the real world. Bars are more of a mixture of transplanted adults and natives to the area. It depends on the bar and neighborhood. Plenty of the transplanted adult women are not necessarily engrained in the city's culture. They might have a few friends if they've been here for a few years.

Over the years, I have tended to cold approach in areas with more transplanted adults than Dallas natives who've remained here as adults.

 

[IKO69]

Someone said it, when women are on vacation, esp well known party spots - they are far easy to get with. Doesn't mean every penis is permitted entrance but you get the idea. They are looking for fun: isn't that the purpose of vacation, to unwind and have fun?

What you said is true Jesse and it is really just a Miami thing. It's no different than then Italians in the tri state area that was recently discussed on here. It's a regional thing - you know Miami attracts a lot of fake people who really like to front in a lot of cases. Also seem to love their coccaine. You're dealing with overly shallow people in a lot of cases.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

My girl (who i cold approach same night laid her) is exactly as you describe here. As with everything with regards to cold approach, it's not about tourist vs local, but about being at the right place, at the right time.

Yep...100% this. The woman has to be both available to date AND looking when you approach her.

If she is in a relationship or mentally not ready to date for whatever reason it doesn't really matter what you do or say, it's not going to go anywhere.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

My girl (who i cold approach same night laid her) is exactly as you describe here. As with everything with regards to cold approach, it's not about tourist vs local, but about being at the right place, at the right time.

You make a solid point there, being in the right place at the right time beats so much out there. A guy with average guy in an idea situation beats a guy with great game in a less than ideal situation. However, some situations just lend themselves to be more ideal than others. It seems like in yours, it was more LTR-oriented. I would think if it was more around chasing a lay count, it would have been less than ideal.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I agree with the assessment that it is more challenging to approach women in groups.

As far as the other stuff, I ain't buying.

If you are attractive to the woman, then that trumps any snobbish/prude attitude or behavior that she may have.

Look at it this way, those women you identified as a pain, they are all fuking some guys...and every guy that they fuk, they are attracted to...snobbish behavior and all.

 

[SW15]

I agree with the assessment that it is more challenging to approach women in groups.

Roosh believed in night game that women in group of more than 3 weren't approachable. He believed the best nightlife targets who were most serious about meeting men were in groups of 2-3.

In daygame, it is easier to find women already isolated and alone. Men who don't have a good wingman are better suited for daygame. It's easy to be alone in a grocery store and find a woman by herself in a grocery store.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Roosh believed in night game that women in group of more than 3 weren't approachable.

I'm with him, but would say that 2 women aren't approachable lol.

In daygame, it is easier to find women already isolated and alone. Men who don't have a good wingman are better suited for daygame. It's easy to be alone in a grocery store and find a woman by herself in a grocery store.

The day is when I come out to play..and the grocery store is my playground.

 

[SW15]

The day is when I come out to play..and the grocery store is my playground.

The grocery store is a good option. It would be unusual to go to a grocery store every day for approaching.

In a given week, it is good to mix in 1-2 grocery store visits with the gym/a fitness class, the mall, and maybe a bookstore. Doing a daily approach is a good thing.

One Approach A Day

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

The grocery store is a good option.

Brooo. You used to live in Phoenix, you remember the Frys grocery chain??

Mannn I see so many baddies there, it is pathetic.

And most of them are alone.

I can go there and have a field day.

It would be unusual to go to a grocery store every day for approaching.

Why? Those are my main establishments.

Walmart.
Frys.
Target.

Both customers and employees can get it.

In a given week, it is good to mix in 1-2 grocery store visits with the gym/a fitness class, the mall, and maybe a bookstore.

I agree. All of those places are good. There are also enough Planet Fitness locations in the area to visit.

On a good Saturday, you can spend the whole day visiting all of those places and capping it off at the mall.

Doing a daily approach is a good thing.

One Approach A Day

Yuppp.

 

[SW15]

Brooo. You used to live in Phoenix, you remember the Frys grocery chain??

Mannn I see so many baddies there, it is pathetic.

And most of them are alone.

I can go there and have a field day.

I liked Fry's a lot when I was in Phoenix. Fry's is a Kroger Company brand (see below). In Dallas, the Kroger Company uses the main Kroger brand for its stores here. I didn't start doing grocery store approaching until I got to Dallas. I have done approaches at Kroger.

The Fry's I went to most often in Phoenix likely wasn't the best one for attractive women.

Kroger - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The good thing about Fry's/Kroger is that most demographics can be found at a Fry's/Kroger location. Certain individual locations are better for certain types of women than others.

Those are my main establishments.

Walmart.
Frys.
Target.

That's a decent combination.

Approaching at Whole Foods is sort of a thing in pickup circles. I have done approaches at Whole Foods before. I've rarely had good approaches there. Among similar stores, I think that Sprouts is better for approaching.

I've never heard of "approaching at Albertsons/Safeway" or "approaching at Kroger" as a thing.

I don't go to Target enough.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I liked Fry's a lot when I was in Phoenix. Fry's is a Kroger Company brand (see below). In Dallas, the Kroger Company uses the main Kroger brand for its stores here. I didn't start doing grocery store approaching until I got to Dallas. I have done approaches at Kroger.

The Fry's I went to most often in Phoenix likely wasn't the best one for attractive women.

Soo, tell me, where do attractive women shop for groceries.

Kroger - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The good thing about Fry's/Kroger is that most demographics can be found at a Fry's/Kroger location. Certain individual locations are better for certain types of women than others.

Facts.

That's a decent combination.

Approaching at Whole Foods is sort of a thing in pickup circles. I have done approaches at Whole Foods before. I've rarely had good approaches there. Among similar stores, I think that Sprouts is better for approaching.

I've never heard of "approaching at Albertsons/Safeway" or "approaching at Kroger" as a thing.

If you see an attractive woman at any of those places, suddenly it becomes a thing.

I don't go to Target enough.

Not many locations but you'd be surprised.

 

[SW15]

Approaching at Whole Foods is sort of a thing in pickup circles. I have done approaches at Whole Foods before. I've rarely had good approaches there. Among similar stores, I think that Sprouts is better for approaching.

I've never heard of "approaching at Albertsons/Safeway" or "approaching at Kroger" as a thing.

If you see an attractive woman at any of those places, suddenly it becomes a thing.

Soo, tell me, where do attractive women shop for groceries.

That's true. It is possible to see to attractive women at any grocery store. I think a few are better than others. Time of day matters as well as do the immediate demographics of the individual location.

Fry's Food & Drug in Arizona has hotties shopping at certain locations.

In general, I don't do a lot of approaching in Walmart. A few months ago, I was in a Walmart and I saw an attractive White woman who was 35+. She was wearing shorts and had attractive legs. I was impressed by that. That Walmart location wouldn't be the best place in my area to find attractive White women in general.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I liked Fry's a lot when I was in Phoenix. Fry's is a Kroger Company brand (see below). In Dallas, the Kroger Company uses the main Kroger brand for its stores here. I didn't start doing grocery store approaching until I got to Dallas. I have done approaches at Kroger.

The Fry's I went to most often in Phoenix likely wasn't the best one for attractive women.

Kroger - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The good thing about Fry's/Kroger is that most demographics can be found at a Fry's/Kroger location. Certain individual locations are better for certain types of women than others.



That's a decent combination.

Approaching at Whole Foods is sort of a thing in pickup circles. I have done approaches at Whole Foods before. I've rarely had good approaches there. Among similar stores, I think that Sprouts is better for approaching.

I've never heard of "approaching at Albertsons/Safeway" or "approaching at Kroger" as a thing.

I don't go to Target enough.

My local Fry's also has a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods right across the street., both of which are night next to an LA Fitness

I had a buddy move here right after I did, I took him to a ghetto Walmart (Maryvale) and the place was loaded with baddies. Dude couldn't believe it.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

My local Fry's also has a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods right across the street., both of which are night next to an LA Fitness

I had a buddy move here right after I did, I took him to a ghetto Walmart (Maryvale) and the place was loaded with baddies. Dude couldn't believe it.

Yupppp.

Are you talking about the Walmart on 75th Ave & McDowell?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Yupppp.

Are you talking about the Walmart on 75th Ave & McDowell?

51st Ave & Indian School. Latinas, black girls, white girls, all races represented.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

51st Ave & Indian School. Latinas, black girls, white girls, all races represented.

Ohhh.

Yupp, that one.

The one on 59th Ave & Northern too!!

Probably my fav.

Good times there.