Pierce Manhammer
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Having dated women in the both the “has kids” and didn’t I’d definitely say that those who have had children are much better choices. Women who’ve not, by choice or otherwise get whacky.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Wouldn't shock me if it was in the 50-100 range, You gotta realize swipe apps made it easy for women to get eazy ****I am curious what her notch count is. She's about to turn 41. Let's try to figure that out. I'll make a conservative estimate.
She moved to New York City at 21 and left NYC at 38. She mentioned a 3 year long relationship from ages 33-36 that went 2 years too long. The guy tried to break up with her when she was 34, but she got him back into some sort of relationship for another 2 years.
In 17 years in New York City, it's likely she had at least 17 sexual partners. It's not difficult to put up those numbers.
You also have to consider her number of partners from when she lost her virginity (somewhere between 14-17) and age 21 when she moved to NYC. That's easily 3-5 partners,
Then consider any partners in Colorado prior to Jim. Add 1-2 there because she mentions she was using a swipe app in Colorado. It's easy for women to get laid on swipe apps. When women don't get laid on swipe apps, it's because they are overly fussy.
Lifetime, she likely has a 20-25 notch count. Her notch count could even be in the 30-40 range.
I know a couple of women who are in their late 30s right now, they aren't ugly have no kidsI did say a few months ago that I found her attractive. Attractive is a general term. I think most men would probably put her a in a cute range. Most men's ratings of her would range from 5.5 - 7. Your rating of her as a 6.5 on a good day and maybe a 6-6.2 on a more typical day would be a fair assessment of her looks.
In the sexual marketplace, she has enhanced value as a 41 year old childless woman who isn't overweight. There's a fair amount of men who would like that combination.
In the next few years, there are going to be more and more 1980s born Millennials like her turning 40 without having had children. A good portion of these 40 year old women will also be never married. The never married, childless 40 year old woman is going to be more of a thing in the Millennial generation than it was in Generation X. With that said, most Millennial women will reach 40 and have had at least 1 child.
You are not the only 40+ guy to say that. @BackInTheGame78 has also made that same point.Having dated women in the both the “has kids” and didn’t I’d definitely say that those who have had children are much better choices. Women who’ve not, by choice or otherwise get whacky.
Because by 45 they’re almost always older teens or in college.If a woman with children is a better choice, how do you cope with her having children?
Are you talking about this only in a casual sex situation or some sort of extended, committed relationship?
At what age do you think childless women start to get whacky?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Last year, you started a thread about a 49 year old woman who still wanted kids with her frozen eggs.On the left coast we start seeing women in their 40’s actually saying they still want children and definitely will try.
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If you are dating 45-54 year old women, they are more likely to have children 15-22.Because by 45 they’re almost always older teens or in college.
I would NOT date a chick with kids under 16, under no circumstances.
Last year, you started a thread about a 49 year old woman who still wanted kids with her frozen eggs.
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Welcome to Northern California. Now to see all the replies about "she's an old hag that's seen more cawk than a urinal at Grand Central Station"... But seriously, she's 50 and wants a baby?!www.sosuave.net
If a woman hasn't had children or adopted children by 40, it's probably not the best idea to start then.
If you are dating 45-54 year old women, they are more likely to have children 15-22.
I've known men who have set a restriction on dating women with younger children. These men typically say something like 13+, 15+, or in your case 16+.
There are a lot of Boomer and Gen X men out there right now who date women with children 18+. They think it's a decent deal because the children are technically adult so they're not officially dating a single mom. Adult children are also a pain in the butt. In most of these cases, the Boomer and Gen X man has his own adult children. Longer term relationships like these create some forced and somewhat unpleasant family interactions at holidays.
With Millennials not having children at much as the Boomers or Gen X'ers did, there will be more childless 40 and 50 somethings in the near future.