noctorious
Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 5, 2023
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- 28
Not enough
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
58 now.I have 57
Haha dont you have a steady gf bro?58 now.
No not any moreHaha dont you have a steady gf bro?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
59 now (yes I’ll be using this thread to keep track)58 now.
I like to know the exact number, I’m big on details and specifics in my life. Why do you care so much that I want to track my bodycount? You talk about quality of sex and ego, you come across as a weirdo. I suggest you focus on your own life.Why track it so religiously though?
I'm almost 24 and despite being in a 4 years long relationship I ended recently im probably somewhere around 20-25 right now. Still, I never quite understood the concept of keeping the track of exact number, it always felt to me like to some people it's an ego thing "omg I'm so cool, my number is XYZ". Especially that, let's be honest, sex is very often of much higher quality in fwb-type relationships over hookups, and to maintain this type of relationship it also requires some skill. When you don't look like a zombie and have basic dancing skills, you can increase your number very quickly by nightgame. Still though - what's the point when the number doesn't really translate to actuall skills (if you use it to measure it per say)?
You turn around to attack me while I asked as I was genuinely curious, this is a discussion forum after all. What I wrote was not an attack on you - I asked a question and explained my personal reasoning behind it. Calm your assWhy do you care so much that I want to track my bodycount? You talk about quality of sex and ego, you come across as a weirdo. I suggest you focus on your own life.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I asked why you care so much about me and my bodycount, I called you a weirdo, you’ve failed to answer my question and my initial statement remains, focus on your own life.You turn around to attack me while I asked as I was genuinely curious, this is a discussion forum after all. What I wrote was not an attack on you - I asked a question and explained my personal reasoning behind it. Calm your ass
I think most people keep track of their count. Most normal guys don't tend to hit double digits anyways. I actually find it more interesting how you don't know the exact number of girls you've been with. I don't know how you could forget personallyYou turn around to attack me while I asked as I was genuinely curious, this is a discussion forum after all. What I wrote was not an attack on you - I asked a question and explained my personal reasoning behind it. Calm your ass
Of course he knows, he’s trying to troll me. 20-25 is not so high you can’t remember them. He’s 24, he remembers them clearly. He’s low iq.I think most people keep track of their count. Most normal guys don't tend to hit double digits anyways. I actually find it more interesting how you don't know the exact number of girls you've been with. I don't know how you could forget personally
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.