"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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What is the perfect relationship?

The Duke

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If you could have any type of relationship, what would that be and why?

Marriage, two live in girlfriends, plates, wife and a side piece, multiple wives, random girls changed out every few months, hookers, sugar babies, ltrs, etc.

Having tried most types of relationships, the most enjoyable has been a solid ltr. But seems like after I hit the 3yr mark things begin to decline. Things get boring, they stop trying as hard, and the arguments begin. A new girl every two years would be the sweet spot for me. I don't want them to live with me either. Getting too old for that. Sucks the fun and suspense out of the relationship as well.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LTR with own places

Funny enough, all my relationships have been around 3 years before I move on.
It's interesting that you develop requirements/standards with each past relationship.

-Educated, but not traditional
-Traditional and educated, but not fun
-Traditional, educated, fun, but doesn't make enough money
-I'm here right now
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-Big tits
 

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The ideal relationship for me currently would be a woman with a high sex drive and a high attraction to me who wants to have sex all the time and not spend tons of money.

In the future I may want to be a wealthy guy in a big house with 3 wives/girlfriends and four ways every week.
 

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So far I'm happy in a regular marriage, we've been together for 7 years and married the last 3. I know this isn't the solution for everyone and I would never pressure anyone else to marry though. Whatever works for you and makes your life enjoyable is the right choice in the end.

I wanted kids too and besides a LTR without marrying, I don't find the other options to be healthy alternatives unless the relationship just doesn't work out in the long run. Ideally they'll have a mom and dad who actually loves each other though.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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mrskinnypantz

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I'd want a solid rotation with 2 atleast cute (6's or 7's) ideally switching out every year or 2 and only keeping around the cute ones that show high ,consistent interest and effort .
No live in girls
I would still date hot women with kids but they would have to live in their own place.
No live in women with kids.
 

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A series of 2-3 year long LTRs, ideally dating a second women or at least having a side chick for the first 6 months or so. I would never move in with them. I also don't agree that most relationships can last more than 3-6 years or so, but it's certainly possible.

In terms of the nature of the relationship, it has to be with a girl who I genuinely enjoy being around and who makes my life easier and makes me feel more confident as a man.
 
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Having tried most types of relationships, the most enjoyable has been a solid ltr. But seems like after I hit the 3yr mark things begin to decline. Things get boring, they stop trying as hard, and the arguments begin. A new girl every two years would be the sweet spot for me. I don't want them to live with me either. Getting too old for that. Sucks the fun and suspense out of the relationship as well.
This is closest to what I want. Somewhere between 2-5 years.

A series of 2-3 year long LTRs, ideally dating a second women or at least having a side chick for the first 6 months or so. I would never move in with them. I also don't agree that most relationships can last more than 3-6 years or so, but it's certainly possible.

In terms of the nature of the relationship, it has to be with a girl who I genuinely enjoy being around and who makes me life easier and makes me feel more confident as a man.
It seems like you also believe in my idea that romantic relationships have a shelf life of goodness of about 5 years.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

Life partner type LTR is my ideal. A relationship that is stable, sex on tap, sexy attractive man that I can laugh with, live with and do life with. Pretty much got that going on now. We’re engaged, which frankly I’m ambivalent about being married at this point having already done the whole marriage and kids thing but marriage is important to him so it’s cool. Means more asset protection paperwork but that’s fine.

If this were not to work that is still my ideal and I’m unconcerned about finding in time a similar situation.

Kinda the lovers, best friends, life & mischief partner scenario works for me :)
 

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Advice from the old lady:

Life partner type LTR is my ideal. A relationship that is stable, sex on tap, sexy attractive man that I can laugh with, live with and do life with. Pretty much got that going on now. We’re engaged, which frankly I’m ambivalent about being married at this point having already done the whole marriage and kids thing but marriage is important to him so it’s cool. Means more asset protection paperwork but that’s fine.

If this were not to work that is still my ideal and I’m unconcerned about finding in time a similar situation.

Kinda the lovers, best friends, life & mischief partner scenario works for me :)
Glad to hear you got engaged - congrats :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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