“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Robert28

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its on the spectrum, dude.

ironically, you even have black and white thinking about Autism. There’s a spectrum, and you’re on it.
Weird since I always hold eye contact and easily make friends, hmmmm. Thanks for the diagnosis though, doc!
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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i don't know either one of you, but i'm guessing Pan is your superior in the sexual market value game.
I mean you can easily look up my pics on here, I’ve posted a few with girls I’ve dated. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. I doubt we even like the same types of girls to be honest.
 

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Sure, but we men are a collective and stuff Robert does has a butterfly effect onto everything else. So I’m not just going to say “I’m superior”. We have a duty as men to clean the street. And this includes calling out weak male behaviour
he doesn't care though. men like him are always right, in their minds. they 'don't need nobody telling them nothing.' they have it all figured out.
 

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Sure, but we men are a collective and stuff Robert does has a butterfly effect onto everything else. So I’m not just going to say “I’m superior”. We have a duty as men to clean the street. And this includes calling out weak male behaviour
Yeah because being a keyboard warrior and calling people out on a forum is alpha as fvck
 

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he doesn't care though. men like him are always right, in their minds. they 'don't need nobody telling them nothing.' they have it all figured out.
I’m not always right, never said I was. This jackass is going around calling people autistic and stuff and doesn’t even know what the signs are.
 

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well reasoned comments here are read and learned-from by many men, and silent viewers of this forum. Adding balance to your negative, autistic drivel is very important
Ok
 

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Pan87, let it go

Let him willow in his depression and self pity, maybe one day he will develop some mental strength to deal with these bullies aka women
 

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I've found the best way to judge a women intentions is to immediately test them. Immediately put the ball in their court. If shes hitting on you, within in the first 1 min, yes, minute, of meeting her suggest a place to meet up at. This will immediately put all the pressure on her. If she says yes, she game, if not then you know you have a time/attention waster. Either way it puts her in a frame of chasing.
just finished reading the first page of this thread, haven't read the rest. I would have to disagree with you on this. one-minute interactions don't involve qualifying, something that could turn a no into a yes. I have lost lots of women this way, where she was showing high interest and I went for the number too soon and she said no. I felt like if I had just qualified her she would have said yes. without qualifying she won't feel special, she is going to think well this guy is spamming 100 women a day. but imagine you qualify. like "are you educated? did you go to college?" "yes" "good, I find that lots of women in this city are uneducated and dumb."
imagine going to a strip club and the stripper says you are handsome. you're going to think ya right you are saying that to every guy here.
 

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Sex within 2 dates then yall go and complain about women being hypergamy thots and cheating on you lol
It's a trade off.

If you go for a girl who isn't "easy" you have more to worry about when it comes to low interest, gold diggers, friendzoning, low sex relationships, etc.

If you only go for girls who let you smash within 2 dates for under $50 spent; then you run the risk of being cheated on, her having 2 other boyfriends or several baby daddies, her giving you an STD, her getting bored of you when she meets a taller richer guy, etc.

In *some* women's minds, if you stick around, you're into her and want a relationship, if you don't, you only wanted sex.



Which let's face it, IS what many of you guys want, sex, and only sex.


I'd say, guys like sex and want sex. only a small set of guys don't like and want sex; and only a small set of guys only/primarily care about using women for sex.



In the same way, women like money; a small set don't care at all and will let you take them to McDonald's. whereas another small set won't even talk to you if you aren't planning $500 shopping trips and vacations for her.
 
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I only read the first two pages of this thread, but I have found that the best way to gauge a woman’s interest is her level of cooperation.
If she makes it easy to see her, she is invested, as long as she cooperates with escalation.
A woman who is genuinely interested will make things as easy as possible for you. She will pave the road for you. If she is resistant or hesitant, the thing to do is back away. Only deal with women who are cooperative. Anything less puts you into that no-man’s land of worry and speculation. Never allow yourself to be in a position of wondering. If the energy flow isn’t right, a man must back off to correct it.
 

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I only read the first two pages of this thread, but I have found that the best way to gauge a woman’s interest is her level of cooperation.
If she makes it easy to see her, she is invested, as long as she cooperates with escalation.
A woman who is genuinely interested will make things as easy as possible for you. She will pave the road for you. If she is resistant or hesitant, the thing to do is back away. Only deal with women who are cooperative. Anything less puts you into that no-man’s land of worry and speculation. Never allow yourself to be in a position of wondering. If the energy flow isn’t right, a man must back off to correct it.
Very well said
 

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First off, thanks for the nice compliment, not used to that 'round here!

Second, how do you keep up pressure to "suss them out"? Serious question.

It's a fine line cause we want to indicate sexual attraction, say during first meet, but not yet ready to jump into bed.

Not for lack of attraction and desire but because of social pressures and not wanting to be viewed by the guy as easy or dare I say, a sl*t?
I have a "checklist" of questions I ask them that I've developed over the years that I weave into the conversation. Questions I've asked hundreds of times to hundreds of different women. I know the responses that typically result in me getting laid, and I know the responses that typically result in things going nowhere. So I compare each women's "responses" with the history of data I've accumulated over the years.

I do the same thing with the pics I send, using slightly older pics (that are still fairly accurate) and and utilize the response history in the same way.

Asking the same questions (not necessarily verbatim, but the same in spirit) and using the same pics is key.

By "keeping up the pressure" I'm referring to continuing down the checklist until I get a good gist of who I'm dealing with.
 
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This is worthy of it's own thread. It'd be nice for you to go into detail about it.
I would also like to read this guy's questions but I think it's important to come up with your own questions because what matters to him may not matter to you. for example maybe he likes a girl who's college educated so he asks what college did you go to? but maybe you don't care about education.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I have a "checklist" of questions I ask them that I've developed over the years that I weave into the conversation. Questions I've asked hundreds of times to hundreds of different women. I know the responses that typically result in me getting laid, and I know the responses that typically result in things going nowhere. So I compare each women's "responses" with the history of data I've accumulated over the years.

I do the same thing with the pics I send, using slightly older pics (that are still fairly accurate) and and utilize the response history in the same way.

Asking the same questions (not necessarily verbatim, but the same in spirit) and using the same pics is key.

By "keeping up the pressure" I'm referring to continuing down the checklist until I get a good gist of who I'm dealing with.
Would love to know the questions.
 

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I’ll simplify all this massively: If I’m still having fun and I’m still interested, I keep seeing her/trying to see her. If, at any point it stops being fun or I lose interest, I move on, her loss.

I don’t worry about interest level, whether she initiates, whether I have to double text, triple text, etc. I just focus on creating a life that’s filled with peak experiences—for me and whoever else wants to come along for the ride. My interest level is her responsibility, never vice versa.

I will say tho that the above philosophy does require a high degree of self-honesty as well the ability to generate options. A lot of guys are needy on both ends of the spectrum—needy for validation/sex on one end (which will cause guys to chase time wasters and turn girls who may not have been time wasters into time wasters) or too needy to avoid rejection/have certainty (which will cause guys to not persist with women who are down but just need a little more persistence).
 

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Women that waste your time are easy to spot, as long as your keep your eyes open. Is she easy to get together and make plans with? Or is she constantly busy and making excuses? Is she sexually open to you and have you slept with her within 3-4 dates? Or is she putting up barriers and making you take her on endless dates without escalation? The escalation part is important because your seduction of her will stagnate and burn out leading to your frustration.

If her Interest Level is Low, then it's better to recognize this early on and just move on. If her Interest Level is High, then she will make things easy for you. You just have to be mindfully aware and seduce her.

I just got back into the game after taking some time off. So far dating 5 women. I've slept with 3 of them. The other 2 were low interest, so I simply let them go. Women will waste your time if you let them, they love attention and validation.
 

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Hi bros.

Recently I've been reflecting on this question/challenge I face. I've met many women (online / offline) and often, women will either go out/progress with you or not. (They're either interested or they're not.) But often times, regardless of this, a lot of women enjoy stringing you along to fish for your attention. Basically wasting your time. Sometimes its very easy to spot their attempt & this sort of time waster but a lot of the times, I find it difficult to spot them.

Especially when there are some girls who I've hooked up with, who go into the time wasting mode suddenly (change of IL). Or other more overly sexual/interested girls who seem to want to make things happen.

Fellow bros, from your experience, what are the signs of a girl whose just out to waste time?

Whats your policy on interacting with 'potential' girls before you consider them time wasters?
Timewasters love to chit chat, especially online. Then when you want to actually meet up, they make excuses. Another thing they love to do is avoid actually answering questions so they'll deflect by asking you something or pretending not to understand. They don't want to actually reject you outright because then you'll stop giving them attention.
 

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Women that waste your time are easy to spot, as long as your keep your eyes open. Is she easy to get together and make plans with? Or is she constantly busy and making excuses? Is she sexually open to you and have you slept with her within 3-4 dates? Or is she putting up barriers and making you take her on endless dates without escalation? The escalation part is important because your seduction of her will stagnate and burn out leading to your frustration.

If her Interest Level is Low, then it's better to recognize this early on and just move on. If her Interest Level is High, then she will make things easy for you. You just have to be mindfully aware and seduce her.

I just got back into the game after taking some time off. So far dating 5 women. I've slept with 3 of them. The other 2 were low interest, so I simply let them go. Women will waste your time if you let them, they love attention and validation.
I guess I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that a low interest woman will actually go on dates with me. But I’ve had it happen. To me low interest means she won’t go on a date at all and either rejects or gives you the run around, that’s easy to spot. The problem I’ve run into is they’ll agree to a date and waste your time knowing it’s going nowhere.
 
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