"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Owen Cook and his talk about Collaborative vs Competitive frame
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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I think it's called "The 7 Secrets of Competitive Beard Growing"
Owen Cook is a fraud and its been proven. Don't listen to that guy or RSD unless it's old Julian material. Just get out there and start learning on your own. The more PUA material you consume, the more weird you become.
A lot of you ****ers are borderline schizophrenic with your paranoia.
Either tell me why he is a fraud or don't make the claim. These types of reactions piss me off.
Go on YouTube and do some research. There are people that used to work for RSD and people who have taken his bootcamps who tell the truth about him. There was even a bootcamp where he went around the club and was blown out on every approach. Then a guy went around and asked all the women that rejected Owen what they though about him. They said Owen was creepy, weird, etc. There is tons of better material out there then listening to RSD unless it's old Julian stuff like I had said. He actually has two really good products (Shift and Pimp) but I wouldn't pay for them.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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What's great about him?
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I think one of my cousins uses Juliens game. Same vibe. Like i can tangibly feel it when I watch Julien in those old products and my cousin. He has gotten some cuties. He also went nuts and became a militant vegan, stealing farmers turkeys and ****.
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I know all about him.
I would say that he's scum of the Earth, but he's honestly just a pu$$y.
It's not just the CNN thing. It's that he's changed since he made it big and his old material is just better. He was more hungry back then and you can tell.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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he quit drugs. was on cocaine and drank a ton during his peak.
Wow thanks captain nitpick.
I thought I could quit wearing nice clothes! Thank god you saved me or I would have made a fool of myself.
Let me clarify what I know here.
Your state of mind dictates 95% of the outcome of any interaction. You don't need to take his statement that looks dont do anything literally. Lets not forget he is a public speaker, not a university professor. In order to keep the public engaged he skips the details and conveys a point rather than explaining it precisely.
I already know that the state of mind dictates the outcome. Looks are still a factor. I wouldn't neglect my looks as keeping myself in shape keeps me sharp and on my toes.
It's whether you believe in yourself, project happiness, trustworthiness, appreciation for life, pride, a sense of purpose, love towards a higher sense of purpose, the ability to enjoy the moment and other such things that garner attention and spike curiosity. A sense of being in control of one's life, also does that.
There are tons of gems in Owen Cooks vids if you want to watch them. He has his flaws but he works hard and does his best to deliver.
He produces the best content and is one of the few that puts his heart into what he does, and from all the self help/dating guys I think he has the best intentions and is in fact even the most transparent about his upbringing and all those things. I'm not a fanboy but I appreciate what he's done and have to commend what I see.
Besides that I think the book is Power vs Force by David Hawkins.
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Ur such a retard. Sarcasm huh. We are discussing looks now... Get a life.
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Next you're gonna tell me to wear a golden peacock tuxedo and perform a magic trick?
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Bro its the bread and butter
If you want books on collaborative frames try Connect First, How to win friend and influence people, and Leil Lowndes books.
If you want a crash course become a project manager like me and try and convince all the psychopaths and ego kings to play nicely together so you can actually fvcking deliver something. Aka carry them all over the line on your back while they r stabbing u.