Save yourself before its too late.

[metalwater]

Document it

I was trying to think of what to tell that could be useful and at the same time be believable. Some of the things I have seen/done/ just are not believable, even to me. This is the highlight. I can't say if I recommend this path or not because each man will choose what he values. I definitely took some pride hits along the way. I am comfortable now with the situation and have no illusion of happiness ever after. I look after what is going on now and verify.


Current situation.

What I give to my woman.

• shelter
• safety
• status
• access
• care and concern

What I get from my woman.

• sex on demand
• affection, sexual not motherly.
• respect
• not really admiration, but recognition
• priority

The issues I had before.

• complaints about sex
• no affection (kiss, embrace, nothing)
• open sexual flirting with others
• other men
• priority
• disrespect
• violence
• bully...
• truncated this list, sure most will already get it

What I did. (lots of details not included)

Action:

• complained and look for answers, eventually found SS
• from SS found RP
• Read all the books, amazing and all NEW information for me

Result:

• Sort of understood, rage
• Understood that some sort of interaction with other men or man must be.

Action:

• implement RP plan
• physical fitness
• continue SS reading/some writing
• fixed an ED/Test problem. This is key..

Result:

• good fitness level
• increased confidence but in an awkward way
• violence and disrespect increased

Action:

• implement aloof and STFU

Results:

• violence and disrespect increased
• gas-lighting increased but with new topics

Action:

• implement holding ground, boundary

Results:

• violence and disrespect increased
• she started to try to prove locations and actions, to be accountable.

Actions:

• ************************************************************

Results:

• violence decreased
• disrespect steady but still bad

Actions:

• additional family time and attempt at some leadership items

Results:

• violence gone
• disrespect lower

Actions:

• some formal but low-key investigation to get proof of misdeeds with the intention to peruse the men or man.

Results:

• current status as above
• she drops all other men
• she drops many women also. This surprised me.
• She returned to spending time with family, immediate and extended with only a few women that are not part of the men's social circles.

My takeaway is that.

1. I had much to learn and still some more
   
2. She is a woman and behaved and behaves like one, exactly as RP and SS document.
   
3. There are men that must be dealt with
   
4. SS and RP is a good resource
   
5. This journey is not yet resolved but better.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I was trying to think of what to tell that could be useful and at the same time be believable. Some of the things I have seen/done/ just are not believable, even to me. This is the highlight. I can't say if I recommend this path or not because each man will choose what he values. I definitely took some pride hits along the way. I am comfortable now with the situation and have no illusion of happiness ever after. I look after what is going on now and verify.


Current situation.

What I give to my woman.

• shelter
• safety
• status
• access
• care and concern

What I get from my woman.

• sex on demand
• affection, sexual not motherly.
• respect
• not really admiration, but recognition
• priority

The issues I had before.

• complaints about sex
• no affection (kiss, embrace, nothing)
• open sexual flirting with others
• other men
• priority
• disrespect
• violence
• bully...
• truncated this list, sure most will already get it

What I did. (lots of details not included)

Action:

• complained and look for answers, eventually found SS
• from SS found RP
• Read all the books, amazing and all NEW information for me

Result:

• Sort of understood, rage
• Understood that some sort of interaction with other men or man must be.

Action:

• implement RP plan
• physical fitness
• continue SS reading/some writing
• fixed an ED/Test problem. This is key..

Result:

• good fitness level
• increased confidence but in an awkward way
• violence and disrespect increased

Action:

• implement aloof and STFU

Results:

• violence and disrespect increased
• gas-lighting increased but with new topics

Action:

• implement holding ground, boundary

Results:

• violence and disrespect increased
• she started to try to prove locations and actions, to be accountable.

Actions:

• ************************************************************

Results:

• violence decreased
• disrespect steady but still bad

Actions:

• additional family time and attempt at some leadership items

Results:

• violence gone
• disrespect lower

Actions:

• some formal but low-key investigation to get proof of misdeeds with the intention to peruse the men or man.

Results:

• current status as above
• she drops all other men
• she drops many women also. This surprised me.
• She returned to spending time with family, immediate and extended with only a few women that are not part of the men's social circles.

My takeaway is that.

1. I had much to learn and still some more
   
2. She is a woman and behaved and behaves like one, exactly as RP and SS document.
   
3. There are men that must be dealt with
   
4. SS and RP is a good resource
   
5. This journey is not yet resolved but better.

So in the starred area you went Ike Turner on her? Cause you did most of the non violent methods first.

 

[metalwater]

So in the starred area you went Ike Turner on her? Cause you did most of the non violent methods first.

I can see why that would be the idea. but no, never any violence from me to her. I think most other men would have smacked her more than once. either to pride or shame, I did not. I held onto the boy scout/superman frame.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I can see why that would be the idea. but no, never any violence from me to her. I think most other men would have smacked her more than once. either to pride or shame, I did not. I held onto the boy scout/superman frame.

Happy someone was able to manage it. As a result I bet SHE is even happier.

 

[metalwater]

Happy someone was able to manage it. As a result I bet SHE is even happier.

your comments and writing is a measurable part of that. both style and content.

 

[FuzzX]

Also if you have a girlfriend that cheats on you, don't give her stamp collection back, just sell it and never return her calls. It will be the best money you've ever made.

 

[SargeMaximus]

@metalwater : how did you fix your ED/test problem? I got it myself on occasion. Thanks.

As for the topic, I never been married. Never believed in it. Early in life I knew this and got all kinds of **** growing up for it. Being cast out by my own family because of my radicalism forced me to be a sigma early in life. Wasn't able to capitalize on the attraction tho. Still learning. No where near where I want to be but I do get sex from multiple females nowadays.

 

[metalwater]

@metalwater : how did you fix your ED/test problem? I got it myself on occasion. Thanks.

As for the topic, I never been married. Never believed in it. Early in life I knew this and got all kinds of **** growing up for it. Being cast out by my own family because of my radicalism forced me to be a sigma early in life. Wasn't able to capitalize on the attraction tho. Still learning. No where near where I want to be but I do get sex from multiple females nowadays.

that was a journey, I kept at it until something worked. lots of failed attempts.

what worked for me is:

- getting in shape: running sprints; hard sprints till exhaustion.
that was not enough and I was already on the path lifting also.
- shockwave therapy is real and worked for me. just buy the machine from eBay or something for a couple hundred. no need to pay thousands for someone else to do it. you can read and find youtube about howto.
- that made improvements but not perfect yet.
daily Cialis (remember I already tried really hard the physical fitness only)
- more improvement but still not perfect.
daily Proviron
- that fixed a bunch of stuff for me and is likely the root cause of lots of my issues. I suggest seeing a Dr. before doing that. I had already learned enough to figure it out. Notice this is the last thing I did. That one was originally designed and invented for ppl like me that need it. Later it was used/abused/used by body builders to counteract the bad effects of stronger meds.

I can't tell strong enough how good is the feeling of solving that problem. Don't give up until you do. It can be done.

 

[SargeMaximus]

that was a journey, I kept at it until something worked. lots of failed attempts.

what worked for me is:

- getting in shape: running sprints; hard sprints till exhaustion.
that was not enough and I was already on the path lifting also.
- shockwave therapy is real and worked for me. just buy the machine from eBay or something for a couple hundred. no need to pay thousands for someone else to do it. you can read and find youtube about howto.
- that made improvements but not perfect yet.
daily Cialis (remember I already tried really hard the physical fitness only)
- more improvement but still not perfect.
daily Proviron
- that fixed a bunch of stuff for me and is likely the root cause of lots of my issues. I suggest seeing a Dr. before doing that. I had already learned enough to figure it out. Notice this is the last thing I did. That one was originally designed and invented for ppl like me that need it. Later it was used/abused/used by body builders to counteract the bad effects of stronger meds.

I can't tell strong enough how good is the feeling of solving that problem. Don't give up until you do. It can be done.

Thanks man. Yeah I'm going the diet route as well as talking to my doctor. So far I found that foods like Broccolli, Brussell Sprouts, Chamomile tea, and Kale inhibit the body's tendency to convert Testosterone into Estrogen, and foods like Squid, Vitamin D, Tuna, Carbs, Mushrooms, and good fats can increase T. Combined, I've noticed some very strong erections during the night and mornings. Though during the day they seem to wane so I'm still experimenting. I'll post my results from time to time in my topic in the Mature section of the forum. Cheers!