"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girl on Facebook - cold approach, kind of

BackInTheGame78

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Update: I'm going on a date with her next saturday and she's blowing up my phone.

To answer the question I myself asked when starting this thread: You message a girl on Facebook like you would text her after you got her number when you approached her.

I kept it light, kept it fun, did a lot of push pull by making her laugh and then disappearing on her for a few days. I was hoping she'd reach out and would start chasing me a bit and she did. It took her a week or two but she initiated contact after I pulled back again and I immediately asked her out.

Excited about this one ;)
Don't get your hopes up too high. Next Saturday is a long way away and it's never a sure thing until you see her at the place you are meeting.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Don't get your hopes up too high. Next Saturday is a long way away and it's never a sure thing until you see her at the place you are meeting.
I know man, but I'm quite confident in my dating results :)

but I know you have a point there so cheers!
 

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Good to be confident, but women can be ultra interested one day and totally not the next.
Found that one out the hard way like most of us here

But I swept this one of her feet and I haven't even flirted with her face to face. I'm at my best when I get to speak/flirt/escalate with a girl in person.

But if she flakes I'll let you guys know. You never know unfortunately.
 

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Sounds like your interest level is way through the roof, you might want to check that you're not projecting your own interest level on to her.

Your OP reads like a Mills and Boon.

A woman with high interest level revels in it, she is in her element. A man with too high of an interest level is a gibbering wreck about to nosedive in to the ground, a premature ejaculator.

If I were you I'd to have a cold shower and have a word with my self in the mirror.

Get her emotional but keep yours in check.

i assume you can walk your (her) dog during the lockdown.........walk her dog with her then bring her back to yours for a few Duvel.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I only updated this thread because one dude asked me to keep him updated. I should have send him a DM instead of bumping this thread.

Again, I am not too eager, I am not in love (how could I even? Without sleeping with her??) and if she flakes I couldn't care less because there are other girls in my rotation. I appreciate all the concern you guys are having, I really do because these are all valid points, but no need to worry because I'm just playing the field here.

Yes, I'm charmed by this one and yes, I'm looking forward to seeing her because she's witty and I like that in women.

But

and here's the but, I'm seeing lots of other women and I am not planning on getting into a relationship any time soon. I'm having way too much fun and these are my best frickin' years. I am not planning on getting into a relationship with this one either. Period.

I'm excited over this one because I'm proud of myself for getting her so attracted just by sliding in her DM's on Facebook. This is huge for me. If I can get a woman this excited just by texting her... normally I have to get a spark going when I talk to her, then get her number, maintain the attraction while texting and getting her on a date where I can escalate.

This is the first time I actually got a girl thinking about me the whole time (you should see the amount of texts I'm getting) without me even flirting with her face to face. (edit: Tinder doesn't count, those girls showed interest by swiping me to the right)

I'll drink a Duvel to that :)
 

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This is the problem with many on this site.

It’s okay to continue talking to and pursuing a girl if she doesn’t drop her panties within 3 seconds of meeting her.

Dang guys... normal human interaction is not a sure sign of low interest.
Amen to that bro
 

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Update: I'm going on a date with her next saturday and she's blowing up my phone.

To answer the question I myself asked when starting this thread: You message a girl on Facebook like you would text her after you got her number when you approached her.

I kept it light, kept it fun, did a lot of push pull by making her laugh and then disappearing on her for a few days. I was hoping she'd reach out and would start chasing me a bit and she did. It took her a week or two but she initiated contact after I pulled back again and I immediately asked her out.

Excited about this one ;)
That is legit! Happy for you man, and glad it worked out. Now go on the date with the only agenda: To enjoy yourself and find out what she is about. Nothing else. Don't have an expectation about how the night will end, be intentional yes escalate as necessary and as you see fit yes, but be present during the date and genuinely enjoy yourself.

Now keep us updated on how the date goes haha


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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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