She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This explains it a lot. I think what most people would call persisting with women then is chasing in the real sense.Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.
Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.
Hmm, so when there's low or no attraction, it's chasing. This means what most people call persisting is just chasing a girlThere is no such thing as persistence without getting psychical.
For me, confident persistence is when you guys are making out in your car and you're trying to escalate to sex but she doesn't trust you/have enough comfort yet.
Anything less than already having attraction and just have to deal with comfort = chasing.
There is no such thing as winning a woman over through persistence. But there is such thing as winning a woman 's trust - a woman who is already attracted to you but isn't yet comfortable.
This is exactly why a man should never ever chaseChasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.
Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I think there is a fine line where when she feeds the crumbs it becomes persistence. If the man continues pursuit by only replying "my place at xx:xx pm on xxxDay" and nothing else to all her crumbs. She'll stop on her own or actually come over.Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.
To be more exact, "Pursuing" is probabaly a better term than "Persisting" but semantics aside, I think (hope) you all get the point by my above definitions.Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.
Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.
I see your point, and it applies to many guys, but once a guy learns some game and DJ skills, he can have success punching above his weight class. We've all seen it, but the guy has the X factor.Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich
No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.
Yes, perhaps but he’ll still have to put in more effort than a guy with a clear higher sexual market value.I see your point, and it applies to many guys, but once a guy learns some game and DJ skills, he can have success punching above his weight class. We've all seen it, but the guy has the X factor.
You can't look like a gargoyle obviously, but attitude and confidence count huge for women, more so than for men.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Is s3x all that defines it especially at a younger ageChasing is you giving her attention without getting s3x.
I think there is a fine line where when she feeds the crumbs it becomes persistence. If the man continues pursuit by only replying "my place at xx:xx pm on xxxDay" and nothing else to all her crumbs. She'll stop on her own or actually come over.
While its easier to NEXT her, its funny how the tables turn after PiV.
Ha, I think this is true. I've always wanted girls that are 'above' me. I'm like a 7 and I've mostly wanted the hotter girls. I don't just see the point in dating someone I'm not attracted to. Funny, but I don't like most girls that are interested in me. If I don't find them attractive enough, there's nothing I want with themDate down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich
No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.
Its a fine line between pursuing and chasing like a simp. The key is calibration. The metric system by which i apply to the approach is no free attention. I want to smash. I approach. I lead. She follows or next. Repeat till d falls off or dead. Top form SMV 18-24. Not bulking season. Not pushing 30 off the carousel. RP call that wife lulz.We all know chasing a girl is never helpful but I hear people say persist but don't chase a woman
What are the differences between the two? Or is it just a mantra people say to keep or justify guys chasing?
I agree but, my d won't suck it self.Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich
No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This.Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.
Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.
Women will accept a one sided deal almost all of the time. That includes free attention from men they have no interest in.Not too deep down every person knows intuitively when they are chasing or pursuing.
If you feel tired? Chasing. (Negative feeling) because she’s taking your energy without replenishment.
If there’s a back and forth with upward trajectory? Pursuing. (Positive feeling) because there is equal investment.
If you’re not receiving dividends from whatever pursuit in life, drop it immediately.
imagine giving $500 to a hot woman every month and she buys new clothes with it, but she uploads a new picture to Instagram for her followers, and also you, but anytime you ask for a date she is always too busy to hangout with you, because she’s out shopping when you’re free on the weekend, but she ardently accepts your $500 a month. But she will give you a response back with an emoji. That’s her stringing you along and you chasing her validation.
Men will chase because they need external validation to feel: x y or z, and they believe a woman’s validation is key to something. But the second you believe that? She has your balls.
View every word or text of your attention like money; that you are investing. And soon you will see how valuable your time and attention truly is. And if you’re just sinking your money in to a hole, drop it because it’s not building you. It’s just losing your time.
Be a Warren Buffet of your own life. Super investor!
Men have to know their value. Stage 1 of red pill is pulling out of the notion of placing women on a pedestal. Because the only way she is getting free attention is if the man put her on the pulpit like she’s as a golden as god.Women will accept a one sided deal almost all of the time. That includes free attention from men they have no interest in.
When a deal is one sided (unless in our favor), its time to eject immediately.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.