"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to politely stop a text conversation?

asterixix

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Hello folks,

I met a girl at a house party on Saturday night, we flirted most of the night and she gave me her number. I texted her the next day and immediately arranged a date for Thursday night.

She continued texting me after we arranged the date, trying to make conversation. Things like "how was your day?" etc.

Should I engage in this conversation? My guts tell me I shouldn't speak to her much prior to the first date, but I'm not sure on how to shut down the conversation in a polite manner.

Any pointers?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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HyenaPrince

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Wouldn't this risk loss of interest from her side?
Not if she's interested in you. If she's scared off by something like that, she's not into you for real. Start being a little warmer right before you guys meet. You can literally get a girl's number and not text her for 2 months straight and still get her to meet you. I saw and experienced that stuff, even with extremely attractive women. They're always down to have fun. Even better if it's surprising.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lookatu

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It's about managing her expectations to decrease her hamster wheel from spinning as much as possible.

For example, if you tell her in advance that you'll be busy for work and that you can't really text while working that much, you are managing her expectations and she won't think anything negative if you don't respond or contact her.

But I would suggest sending her crumbs towards the end of the day to keep her interest up until the date happens. And by crumbs, it should be something that captures her curiosity or imagination. Quality, memorable, meaningful convo. Not just, "hey, what are you doing" type of convo. Most girls like traveling for example, mention something like you can't wait until Covid is over so you can go to xx place next. Then start it from there.
 

2Rocky

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When I end it I'm always "headed into a meeting", or "gonna get on the road", or express that I will be doing something where I can't/won't reply.
 

isasda66

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Should I engage in this conversation? My guts tell me I shouldn't speak to her much prior to the first date, but I'm not sure on how to shut down the conversation in a polite manner.
Yes dont always ignore and follow text for ONLY logistics. Some amount of comfort/rapport is required.

You can skip the idle chatter as mentioned above.
 

BackInTheGame78

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Hello folks,

I met a girl at a house party on Saturday night, we flirted most of the night and she gave me her number. I texted her the next day and immediately arranged a date for Thursday night.

She continued texting me after we arranged the date, trying to make conversation. Things like "how was your day?" etc.

Should I engage in this conversation? My guts tell me I shouldn't speak to her much prior to the first date, but I'm not sure on how to shut down the conversation in a polite manner.

Any pointers?
Wrong. I can tell you your flake rate will be far higher if you subscribe to this nonsense of no texting prior to dates.

Just engage with a text or two back and forth over the course of a day. It's not that big of a deal.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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