"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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hey guys might be be a pointless thread but something I been thinking about today
Been dating this girl exclusively for 5 months. She just moved to my town about a year ago and things seem good at the moment. Anyways her friends and family live about 2 and a half hours away. She would like to invite me but our schedules and days off dont quite work.out. anyways she spent a day and a half over there and when she got home this this morning one of the things she said is she ran into a old fvck buddie that was trying to hook up with her. But told me she declined, told him she was taken and she didn't have anymore emotions for him and that she was proud of her self...

Kinda caught me off guard like why are you telling me this? Is that a red flag, trying to make me jealous, or trying to assure me of her loyalty? Maybe im.over thinking it... thoughts? Typed this on my phone
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I vote overthinking...

When she told you this, how did you respond?
 

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Your relationship is pretty fresh. There could be three reasons for the fact that she told you about it. Either she's extremely honest or she wants to make you jealous. Or she's afraid of her own nature and wants to prevent herself from hurting you.

It's like verbally expressing to your friends that you want to get rid of a bad habit. You want to be held responsible. This is the most probable scenario. Women don't tell sh*t like that out of honesty. It always has to have a reason. I believe her when she says she doesn't want to f*ck him. But there will be a situation in the near future where she'll go through with it.

Those things always start with these types of indicators. They manifest through overly honest behavior and making sure you build up trust.

Don't react to her story. Don't ask questions. Just observe her behavior and if she starts meeting male "friends". If you stay calm and confident, she won't have the motivation to cheat on you.
 

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Some people have a compulsion to share something that happened and they did something they're proud of. She's kinda bragging about herself really. Might also be she was trying to display honesty.

Don't overthink it.

Reminds me of a woman who would always make sure I could see her phone screen and showed me texts and stuff from her desperate orbiters. She was obviously trying to intentionally show honesty, kinda nice, but I have to admit the behavior is a bit weird. Funny contrast from the woman before her who would go to great lengths to hide her phone screen. I know which one I liked more, because the girl hiding it evidently turned out to be up to no good.
 

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Thanks for the replies. I just said, hey im proud of you, I'd never think you'd be that type of girl. Then moved forward in the conversation. Now maybe in her past she was single, spinning plates like a guy would and had options. But she hasn't given me any signs of bad behavior so far. Just thought it was kind of weird to say that. Though if she was hiding something I don't think she would bring it up.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm thinking that she provided you with a good sign. Sounds to me as if she was (in a subtle way - as women do) wanting to convey that she's yours.
 

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This is a good sign IMO. You should of told her in a relaxed and appreciative way, "I appreciate the honesty, This is what I expect from you. I dont care what it is, always be straight up honest with me and dont try to hide anything" She could of easily not said nothing to you and "hide it". This puts you in a position of authority and if she ever crossed the line by lying to you, then you know she's not worth having as a girlfriend. She cant say or do anything about it because you already told her "Never lie to me".
 

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Almost all women do things like this and all I can say is that you need to watch your back.

There is this weird thing where you want to believe that it's just some innocuous jealousy game that you can laugh off but at the same time I just have a lot of experience with women mentioning guys because they feel like if they tell you that this person exists then it's your fault for trusting them going forward. Or, they are so enamored and obsessively thinking about this run-in with this man that they can't even help but bring it up around you.
These are hard facts. Very well said. It's so damn ironic; she's thinking about this encounter and how that person made her feel, so that she just can't keep it for herself. It's exactly like these little jolts of euphoria you get during the day after some good news at work or after a fresh, hot cup of coffee. You can't stop talking about things you would usually never mention.

This is the case with her. She probably even was aroused a little bit and suddenly got enough tongue for ten rows of teeth.
 

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Could also be that she banged him and she told him so it makes her feel better about cheating on him. Like the wise chris brown said...these h*es aren't loyal...

She had a fwb so thats a red flag already...she has probably had more than one fwb
 

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Definite red flag. High quality women don’t talk about their past. It’s a huge disrespect whether intended or not. Run unless you like drama.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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We all have exes. if you live long enough you are gonna have a lot.

I think she is signalling her devotion, with a touch of "dread game" maybe even subconsciously...

TBH sometimes surrendering your self fully to a relationship needs the reassurance that "hey if this doesn't work there is a plan B..." And that actually keeps you from actively LOOKING for a Backup.
 

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We all have exes. if you live long enough you are gonna have a lot.
we all have exes but not everyone chooses to talk about our past with our present.

Almost always a red flag if a woman brings up running into her past hookups, or brings up past relationships, etc. Have a discussion and say talking about the past is a no no. If it happens again, cut your losses. Definitely not LTR material.
 

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hey guys might be be a pointless thread but something I been thinking about today
Been dating this girl exclusively for 5 months. She just moved to my town about a year ago and things seem good at the moment. Anyways her friends and family live about 2 and a half hours away. She would like to invite me but our schedules and days off dont quite work.out. anyways she spent a day and a half over there and when she got home this this morning one of the things she said is she ran into a old fvck buddie that was trying to hook up with her. But told me she declined, told him she was taken and she didn't have anymore emotions for him and that she was proud of her self...

Kinda caught me off guard like why are you telling me this? Is that a red flag, trying to make me jealous, or trying to assure me of her loyalty? Maybe im.over thinking it... thoughts? Typed this on my phone
Red flag..cut bait now
 

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hey guys might be be a pointless thread but something I been thinking about today
Been dating this girl exclusively for 5 months. She just moved to my town about a year ago and things seem good at the moment. Anyways her friends and family live about 2 and a half hours away. She would like to invite me but our schedules and days off dont quite work.out. anyways she spent a day and a half over there and when she got home this this morning one of the things she said is she ran into a old fvck buddie that was trying to hook up with her. But told me she declined, told him she was taken and she didn't have anymore emotions for him and that she was proud of her self...

Kinda caught me off guard like why are you telling me this? Is that a red flag, trying to make me jealous, or trying to assure me of her loyalty? Maybe im.over thinking it... thoughts? Typed this on my phone
Triangulation, when girls show you what she is,, run.. Biggest deal breaker, being triangulate with other person or objects, always the biggest red flags, relationships ahh nice, triangulate? Wait! From where that came from in ltr? Answer alwYs run.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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we all have exes but not everyone chooses to talk about our past with our present.

Almost always a red flag if a woman brings up running into her past hookups, or brings up past relationships, etc. Have a discussion and say talking about the past is a no no. If it happens again, cut your losses. Definitely not LTR material.
I disagree, in a LTR at some point you will both discuss parts of your past including ex's. Not everyone is a cagey secretive weirdo.
 
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@lostintime no offense, bud. Nothing against you.

I like krueg for his workout advice, pretty sure, but when a guy has a problem on this website, you don't call him the worst thing you can think of...

Unless you want to be master troll like me. And even then you only call out prominent posters
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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