This maybe natural for some but after women coming out of the woodwork post lockdown pandemic, I've noticed the ones that freely hug are the ones that will have potential. I've always given hugs on first dates pre-corona but hesitated somewhat after. It maybe common sense but at first I was hesitant during my first couple dates post lockdown or giving half ass hugs when I see them just to not freak them out. Now I do it as a test and always hug them when I first meet them and see how they react(IDGAF attitude). That pretty much sets the tone and you can pretty much expect how the date will go. Obviously, if she's already wearing a mask when she meets you in public, that's a no go right there.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ALWAYS hug her on a first date, even during Corona...
- Thread starter Lookatu
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Focal core
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2017
- Messages
- 1,533
- Reaction score
- 1,203
- Age
- 45
Nahh im just zipping my D out on the first date, they hug that very well with her lips.
MrAddiction
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2016
- Messages
- 371
- Reaction score
- 222
- Age
- 47
Wait ....are you serious? You are wearing pants when you go on a date? ;-))))
Ourdays: wearing a mask is absolutely sufficiant. ;-)
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
logicallefty
Moderator
If I like a woman I will kiss her mid first date, then hold hands for the rest of the date. Covid what? What's that?
Exactly and the same here but her being receptive to a hug is where it starts when you first meet her. Like one date, gal didn't wanna hug and freaked out a little. After a half hour, I made some lame excuse and dropped her off. Saved me a lot of time.
user252009
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Oct 15, 2019
- Messages
- 733
- Reaction score
- 342
good call
Focal core
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2017
- Messages
- 1,533
- Reaction score
- 1,203
- Age
- 45
I did exactly that, and they just ate my D.